Information about some polkas

Subject: Information about some polkas
From: GUEST,Vincenzo, Roma
Date: 01 Dec 00 - 06:25 AM

Ciao a tutti!!! I return in this forum after some weeks. I don't remember if I have explained that I haven't computer at home but only at work, and sometimes I have make somethins.. I need information about : Angus Polka n.1 and n.2, Donegall Barndance also called Cameron polka, from "Farewell and Remember Me" by A.Bain; The Galway Piper, The Sligo Polka from "Shadows of Stone" by M. Molloy If somebody have some information about the time of their creation or the composer, or some sites where I can find this information.

I hope that somebody understand my english.

Ciao

Vincenzo

Subject: RE: Information about some polkas
From: Pinetop Slim
Date: 01 Dec 00 - 01:28 PM

Can't help with the polkas, but your English is fine. Except for the ciao a tutti part. Chow a tootie?

Subject: RE: Information about some polkas
From: The Shambles
Date: 02 Dec 00 - 01:12 PM

Can anyone help?

Subject: RE: Information about some polkas
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 02 Dec 00 - 01:54 PM

Not so far, though I've been looking.  Part of the trouble is that they're mostly generic titles, which makes finding them a lot harder.  "The Galway Piper", though, was, I believe, the original name of the tune to which the song "Rakes of Mallow" was set.

Malcolm

Subject: RE: Information about some polkas
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 02 Dec 00 - 03:03 PM

I have shadows on stone(MM)and I am listening to the Galway Piper which is the first part of track 13, The Sligo Polka is the second part of the Track. The sleeve notes say they are TRAD. Also
It was in Australia that Matt learned the first very uncommon Polka - from the late Tim Whelan, a whistle player...from Tipperary. The second he learned from the fidle playing of Tilly Finn from Killavil, co.Sligo
Sorry its not more helpful
Roger

Subject: RE: Information about some polkas
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 02 Dec 00 - 04:13 PM

I am wondering if there was a misunderstanding when Matt Malloy had his CD artwork done, perhaps it should be Galway Polka as the tune on the CD is not Rakes of Mallow
Roger

Subject: RE: Information about some polkas
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 02 Dec 00 - 07:37 PM

Evidently a quite different "Galway Piper", then; that's the trouble with tune names.  There always seems to be at least two of the buggers with the same title!

Malcolm

Subject: RE: Information about some polkas
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 03 Dec 00 - 03:04 AM

Just a suggestion: maybe if you go to the custysmusic.com webpage and email the shop someone there might help. It's a shop in Clare, in Ireland, and a lot of traditional musicians hang out there.

Subject: RE: Information about some polkas
From: The Shambles
Date: 03 Dec 00 - 07:13 AM

CUSTYS

Subject: RE: Information about some polkas
From: GUEST,Lynn
Date: 03 Dec 00 - 10:10 AM

I haven't heard the recordings you're asking about but you may like to know that the Cameron Men's Polkas numbers 1 and 2 are in Aly Bain's 50 Fiddle Solos book. The Cameron Men were a Scottish fiddle trio (all brothers) who made a lot of recordings in the 20's and 30's. The polkas in the book sound familiar, maybe versions of Jenny Lind and a Rare Bog, a Rattling Bog?

Subject: RE: Information about some polkas
From: Noreen
Date: 03 Dec 00 - 12:42 PM

As Malcolm said above, at least some of these seem to be generic titles- for example, I have heard at least three different tunes called 'the Kerry Polka' by different people- and in the same group of musicians, the title is useful- but when it comes to this sort of situation, the title may not be as helpful as you might expect.

So, Vincenzo, we would like to help but...

Noreen

Subject: RE: Information about some polkas
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 03 Dec 00 - 08:43 PM

There are hundreds of bloomin' "Kerry Polkas", most of which have their own names, most of which seem to have been recorded by people who couldn't be bothered to do some basic research and find out what they were!  (rant over).  The info Lynn gives above looks as if it might be a useful lead, though; anyone got the Bain tape/book?  I did mean to buy it (got the Tommy Peoples one in the same series) but never got round to it...

Malcolm

Subject: RE: Information about some polkas
From: Jacob B
Date: 04 Dec 00 - 09:32 AM

I see that the Digitrad doesn't have lyrics for Galway Piper. Here's what I remember of them. Anybody have more?

Every person in the nation
Of a great of humble station
Holds in highest estimation
Piping Tim of Galway

He can pipe it fast or slow
....
Touch your heart and turn your toe
Piping Tim of Galway

Subject: RE: Information about some polkas
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 04 Dec 00 - 11:20 AM

Full lyrics may be found at Lesley Nelson's  Folk Music of England, Scotland, Ireland, Wales and America ,  here:

The Galway Piper (Piping Tim)

Remembering, of course, that this isn't the "Galway Piper" that Vincenzo is looking for information on!

Malcolm

Subject: RE: Information about some polkas
From: GUEST,Willa
Date: 28 Jul 01 - 06:41 AM

Welcome, Vincento; your English is fine! I've looked through my tune books, but can't find what you're seeking. I'm sure that you'll get useful information from the 'catters, though. Just keep checking this thread.

Subject: RE: Information about some polkas
From: M.Ted
Date: 28 Jul 01 - 08:18 PM

You learn more from the question threads people can't answer--I have nothing to contribute, but I've learned a lot, including new tunes, already--