Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile of BBC [2011]

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 03:45 AM

Thanks, Ian - an easy enough mistake to make, and very common. Almost as common as the mis-spelling of 'genius'! :-)    :-)

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 04:21 AM

The current law is here: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/contents


The original text of the 1956 Act (the previous most general relevant statute) is here http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Eliz2/4-5/69/contents/enacted

but as you can see from the schedule of repeals in the 2003 Act there were many other statutes that did fiddle about (see what I did there?) with the UK law of sexual offences, created over a great span of time but repealed in 2003.

There was also a fair bit of common law still relevant in the area during Savile's heyday.

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 04:42 AM

The 'age of consent' or the 'legal age for sex' etc is totally irrelevant. It doesn't matter if these were women of fifty. They didn't want or welcome his attentions (if all they say is true, which is yet to be proved) They were uncomfortable and very upset by what he did to them. Nobody has any right whatsoever to touch, fumble, put a tongue in the mouth (one of the allegations) press against or in any other way assault another person, male or female, of any age. It may have been many years ago, but these sort of assaults have a lasting effect on the victims. It must be investigated because although Savile is dead, it seems there may have been other adults who knew or even assisted him to do this. Also the BBC should be questioned, as they may have turned a blind eye. The whole thing is very sad.

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: GUEST,CS
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 05:14 AM

Well said Eliza

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: Musket
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 05:22 AM

I used to be able to spell till I started using my iPhone to post..

Ruddy auto spell checker. The word it slipped in isn't a real word anyway! Whilst we are digging up Saville, I want to dig up Jobs and accuse him of not allowing turning off of the Nanny auto speller. I can do it on my iMac, and have dun.

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 05:23 AM

LOL!

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 06:22 AM

Jimmy Saville made me squirm as a young girl. He made me squirm as an adult. In fact, he made my blood run cold, all through his life.

It seems that his work for Stoke Mandeville played an important part here, together with his high ratings for the BBC.

Having been told by the BBC that they would get their Special Investigations Department to deal with me, back on their messageboard, with the added threat of that department seeking to get me banned from the internet by my service provider, it would seem the BBC does HAVE a Special Investigations Department.

If this is the case, WHERE WERE THEY?

Jimmy Saville had the 'aura of pervert'all around him, in my opinion, but so too do ALL those concerned who KNEW what was happening, or who had been told highly suspicious things but who then CHOSE not to a damn thing about them!

Complicity should be a Criminal Offence, as far as I'm concerned, for if it were then crimes such as these would NOT have been allowed to continue to happen.

I don't care how much money he raised for charity, his reputation absolutely deserves to be blown to Kingdom Come and quite frankly Stoke Mandeville AND the BBC should be the LOUDEST voices calling for a full Investigation into these allegations, which I have no doubt will be found to be true.

Interestingly, most of you have ignored the comment above from 'the leveller' where he spoke of a relative of his who was abused by Saville. Levels is to be trusted 100% in what he says and therefore his comment above adds yet more translucence to a very foggy situation which was deliberately kept hidden so that money would continue to pour in to Stoke Mandeville and the BBC Ratings would continue to stay high because of Saville's programmes and popularity.

Blow 'em all to smithereens, Legal Industry!!

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 06:30 AM

Poem

Let's take it as a gimme
That Saville's jimmy
Acted most unpleasant
With young adolescents


How'z about that then.....!

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: GUEST,your willie.
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 06:59 AM

19th. C. or older. Lines on what old men get up to.[no pun intended]

With pows say white and tails say green
Aye fuckin young girls of bare thirteen

At least the hair colour matches

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 07:02 AM

How distasteful....

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 07:09 AM

"""the unsupported word of alleged victims"

They're called witnesses - it's what our criminal prosecution system is based on. What do you want - photographs?""

That's one guilty vote before trial then.

When dealing with the case against a dead man, who by definition is prevented from mounting any defence, it is necessary to consider the possible motives of all who stand to gain from the accusations, whether by receiving compensation, or by sellingtheir stories to the Media, don't you think?

If rumour gives way to evidence, then and only then, I'll join in the condemnation, and if others are implicated, I'll be calling for charges to be levelled.

The point is, I don't know he's guilty, and I suspect you don't either.

Don T.

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: theleveller
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 07:11 AM

Thanks, Lizzie. 100% with you on this one!

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 07:25 AM

We have some evidence Don.
Do you have any reason to believe that all the witnesses are lying?
So many and so varied all with the same story?
Celebs die all the time, but this has never happened before.

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: GUEST,your willie
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 07:29 AM

Different times different mores.
A young lady of twelve, the age of consent at the time, the Duchess of Northumberland in her own right, was wedded and bedded at that age by a fotune hunter of fifty three with barely a comment from her own class.

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 07:58 AM

With you 100% Lizzie.

Dave H

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: GUEST,CS
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 08:10 AM

"We have some evidence Don."

And it's mounting: eight more women came forward today.

"Do you have any reason to believe that all the witnesses are lying?"

There is no reason to suppose any of this flood of allegations are lying. There's certainly no evidence to indicate that any of them have any reason to do so. Producers at the BBC included.

Alternatively it could all be one huge evil conspiracy, probably masterminded by the Illuminati or our friends at Tinfoil Hats R Us

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: GUEST,CS
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 08:14 AM

More here on the further eight:

Ex-detective Mark William-Thomas, who is presenting tonight's documentary Exposure: The Other Side Of Jimmy Savile, said: "Up to eight women have come forward for the first time to tell me their stories over the last few days.
"I have urged them to go to the police. It is quite clear from this early response that there are lots more women out there with similar stories to tell."

And this is important:

"Today it also emerged that at least four police forces investigated claims that Savile molested children, while Scotland Yard is looking into an allegation of rape dating back to 1986."

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/jimmy-savile-sexually-abused-us-say-eight-more-women-8195670.html

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 08:16 AM

There can be no comparison whatever to what appears to have happened here and the Yorkshire underage sex affair.
Descriptions of bored policemen taking statements from underage sex victims and asking them "if you objected to what happened to you, why did you go back for more?" indicate a total indifference to what happened in Yourkshire and a malicious dereliction of duty rather than who the victims or perpetrators were.
Rather, if the BBC knew about Saville's alleged abuse and covered it up, this can be compared to the ongoing disclosures within the Catholic church, were the heirarchy allowed abuse to to remain undiscovered and even to continue by not disclosing it - for the good of the church.
I wonder if the mis-spelling of the title of this thread was deliberate or a Freudian slip - Sa-vile
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: GUEST,Felix Titling
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 08:28 AM

Even The Nolans... about 3.25 in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JygLGzNhiD8

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 08:30 AM

The comparison was made in The Guardian on Monday by Julie Bindel (remember her Jim?).
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/01/jimmy-savile-abused-children-documentary

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 08:33 AM

Poem

Jim fixed it for me
So spare me your wrath
Even if he did get
My knickers off.

Next week: Esther speaks out - my lesbo romps with Mary Whitehouse and childline victims

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: The Sandman
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 08:34 AM

lets wait and see.
In the 1960s many people slept with popstars and disc jockeys,, I believe Bill Wyman had a reputation for having a lot of sex, JERRY LEE LEWIS HAD A 13 YEAR OLD WIFE, now if people willingly consented to having sex,it should in my opinion be treated differently to being intimidated or being forced, of course it is still legally an offence, if under the age of consent,
personally I think that Saville possibly/probably was an abuser. however its very easy to judge what happened fifty years ago with the morals of the 21st century, prnot an excuse for Saville, but maybe an excuse for pop stars who had underage consensual sex[possibly not even knowing their age.

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: theleveller
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 08:45 AM

"That's one guilty vote before trial then."

Your logic, as usual, is totally perverse. Personally, I believe my mother-in-law. Why would she make it up?

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 09:19 AM

"Julie Bindel "
Which in no way attempts to link the dereliction of duty by the police to "who the perpetrators are."
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: GUEST,Jim'll fuck it
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 09:38 AM

"Whilst we are digging up Saville"

Then there are also the persistent wide spread internet rumours
that Saville took advantage of his charitable free & easy entry to hospitals
in order to gain surreptitious access to fresh corpses in the morgues ???

Now then, now then,
that's as much context as required for this currently circulating gem
of incisive internet humour:

"I notice the paedophilia rumours about Jimmy Savile are in full swing,
but no-one seems to be talking about the necrophilia ones.

Presumably they're still waiting for the victims to come forward."

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 09:54 AM

Whenever something of this nature hits the press... all kinds of people come forward... even ones who had nothing at all to do with the perpetrator/paedophile... why... because somewhere in a bank(s) or other financial investment is a vast fortune left by 'the accused' Don't misunderstand me, I believe that there are those who were abused by Jimmy S but there will also be those who lie when they say they were........ As I said in my previous post.. I believe that it has raised it's ugly head now because people are, or will be seeking compensation.. but who will be entitled to it and how can they prove it??

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 09:55 AM

I don't much care for proclaiming guilt because there was an "aura of pervert". Guilt depends on being guilty, not having an aura.

No doubt part of the reason this is surfacing is because the dead cannot sue for libel - and it may be interesting to compare the widespread rumours that in order to compete on (much less win) Opportunity Knocks you had to be shagged by Hughie Green (known as "Huge" even in public, to his last lady companion but I cannot say the reason) whatever gender you were. But of course the dead cannot be posthumously convicted either.

Back in the 60s the pill had removed terror of unwanted pregnancy. Herpes was a distant threat, and the idea of Aids would have been unthinkable. STDs were not that common, and treatable. It was the first great liberation of sex - and many groupies were begging for it, and going back for more if they could. The ones who got into the star's pants were accounted the lucky ones - and although the Bay City Rollers were musically vile I felt the much delayed conviction and investigation there were a bit puritanical. The tales of Jagger, of the Status Quo, and many others were uniform. The dam had burst and sex could be and was enjoyed. Think of songs like "Young Girl", "Mellow Yellow", Young Girl" "Don't Stand So Close to Me". Think of the Oz schoolkids issue. Think of the cartoon "Honeybunch". That was the zeitgeist of the times and the time I assumed everyone was doing it and wanted to do it even more. The majority of my friends of gender started their sex lives when under age and I am reasonably confident the same has prevailed ever since and still does.

But it seems that not everyone was of the same frame of mind. King was clearly a predator rather than an opportunist, and in some cases coercion now appears to have been thought to be in play. In 2003 the "abuse of position of responsibility" crime came into play.

I am not sure that we have got our collective position on this right. Young people between about 12 and 16 face either unwanted (in many cases) celibacy or criminality. Only some positions involve deemed trust that may render what might be (or might not be) a genuine relationship unlawful. I know of one case not all that long ago at the Hundred of Hoo school where a teacher entered a relationship with a girl pupil - to whom he is now married. More recently there was another case with another teacher (Spendley) at the same school in which there was no coercion but there appears to have been a misuse of position: the relationship foundered, and Spendley is still married to his wife but in prison and mentally ill. The girl also continues to feel adverse after effects. As the judge said, it was a tragedy for all concerned. What I have said here about Spendley was all in the press at the time.

We have the law as a blunt instrument. It criminalises too much and too little. Referring to the 2003 Act Sections 9 to 15 are probably too wide - although I am less clear on sections 14 and 15 - and 16 to 44 are probably too narrow.

I tend to think that S 72 is too wide. Some commentators above should however have a look at it.

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: theleveller
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 10:11 AM

"I believe that it has raised it's ugly head now because people are, or will be seeking compensation.."

Why do you think this? People are coming forward because they have lived their lives (in my mother-in-law's case something like 65 years)under the cloud of having been sexually abused by a person who became a respected public figure. She doesn't want compensation, she doesn't even want to talk about it ouside the family - but she does now have a sense of justice because ir has come out into the open. Do you think that the whole thing should have been hushed up? If not, please stop makingthese hurtful allegations about victims of long-term sexual predator. How would you like it if he'd fucked you?

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 10:21 AM

theLeveller.... In my honest opinion, there will be claims for compensation from some, maybe not from others but once the ball starts rolling it picks up momentum. I sympathise with anyone who has been abused 'by anyone' at any time.... I don't believe it should have been hushed up at all... but it will snowball ................... When compensation doesn't rear its ugly head... I will accept that I was wrong.. we'll have to wait and see.

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: theleveller
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 10:35 AM

I may be being stupid here (well, there's a first time for everything) but where would this compensation come from? I assume that Saville's estate has now been disposed of to his heirs who were not culpable so could not be sued.

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 10:45 AM

There will be claims for compensation for compensation, and rightly so if it turns out that there is a case to be made for abuse here.
But please don't let that be a weapon for proving that there was no abuse.
When the enormity of the clerical abuse was emering in Ireland an organisation called L.O.V.E. was created (can't remember what it stands for - but it had little to do with LOVE).
Its purpose seemed to be to prove that most of the claims of having been abused were made for financial gain, thus making the abused children victims once again.
I belive the way rape is handled by the judicial system has the consequence that the majority of rapes are never reported.
I agree with Richard Bridge, let's see the evidence before coming to a conclusion one way or the other.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 11:17 AM

Saville's estate is one thing. The BBC if complicit is another.

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: Jack Campin
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 11:36 AM

The clip with the Nolans (juggling a tit on camera) is a bit sleazy, and would have been a bit sleazy whatever the age of the performer, but there is no law against sleaze and the Nolans must have known that showbiz was meant to be that way.

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 11:38 AM

Which in no way attempts to link the dereliction of duty by the police to "who the perpetrators are."
Yes it did Jim.
She said, "Why do we so often fail to act when we suspect or even know that children are being sexually abused? Nothing prompts the question more than the disgraceful example of the grooming gangs in Rochdale in which scores of girls were drugged, raped and sold by men who were afforded better protection than their victims were until the criminal justice system and child protection agencies were forced to act. In 2008, one victim of the most serious abuse and exploitation reported to the police and another agency that she had been the victim of serious sexual assaults by adult men but the focus was more on her behaviour than of the abusers."

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 11:41 AM

Its a bit like the Conservatives.

No use blaming maggie Thatcher - she always looked weird and sounded dodgy.

Blame the idiots who voted for her.

Similarly with Jimmy Saville.

Blame the nutters who watched him, and let their kids write into someone who was weird and sounded dodgy.

I mean - look at him, for godsake! If he was in a line up of weirdoes, could you pick out the weirdo - I think in all honesty - anybody could!   You know that saying - does what it says on the label.....could be his epitaph really.

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 11:44 AM

Hmmm. Not sure about that, Jack. I doubt the Nolan in question would agree with you. The clip looks bizarre.

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: GUEST,Felix Titling
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 11:48 AM

A bit sleazy? That clip is 100% proof pure vintage sleaze. The kid was fourteen FFS. But there it is - an evident act of sexual assault on a naive minor in full camera view. Still, it seems The Nolans were aware of his reputation at the time...

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: Johnny J
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 11:49 AM

Dear, dear....

There IS a law against indecently assaulting a woman(or man for that matter) whatever the age of the performer.

If he or she was a willing participant in the proceedings, then it would be merely "sleaze" and it may or may not be against the law if the act takes place or is broadcast in a public place.

From the video, it appears as if the girl is being "groped" and she doesn't look entirely happy about it.
No complaint was made at time time and, by all accounts, Colleen doesn't even wish to pursue the matter now but I still think Savile was completely out of order.

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 11:54 AM

And also Jim, Peter Watt who was a General Secretary of the Labour Party said,
"So scores of girls aged 12 – 16 from a small geographical area are groomed, gang raped and then intimidated into silence by a small group of men of Pakistani origin and:

"It is imperative that suggestions of a wider cultural phenomenon are avoided."

But a sick and distorted sense of political and cultural sensitivity allowed criminals to go unprosecuted and worse the horror to continue for years for young girls in Rotherham."

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 11:59 AM

"Yes it did Jim."
No it didn't Keith - in no way does it link who these people were with a reason for why they were not prevented from doing what they were doing.
The reports on the events indicated clearly very bored "yawning" policemen taking down statements from abuse victims and then suggesting it was the victims who were to blame - nothing to do with the perpetrators, unless you are suggesting that the police didn't act because hey were afraid of bad press.
I have no intention of taking this any further along this road and I suggest you leave it where it is.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 12:07 PM

No, no, no!
You pair have wrecked countless threads with your personal, childish feud.
Please Foxtrot Oscar and leave this one alone.

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: GUEST,CS
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 12:15 PM

"Whenever something of this nature hits the press... all kinds of people come forward... even ones who had nothing at all to do with the perpetrator/paedophile... why... because somewhere in a bank(s) or other financial investment is a vast fortune left by 'the accused' "

Does it? Oddly enough I've never seen this apparently commonplace phenomenon, but you evidently have. What other wealthy dead big name celebrities have been the focus of mass "snowballing" allegations of abuse in this way?

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: GUEST,Jim'll fuck it
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 12:44 PM

The internet has been awash with Saville rumours & allegations
for some years before his death.
Just google his name and any of many keywords to discover hours of prurient reading.

Ranging from the plausible & believable
- to astonishing and bizarre conspiracy theories
involving the Krays, masons, secret intelligence agency cover ups, even speculated links to Fred West !!!???

But so far as I can see not extra terrestrial abduction & invasion.

Here's a long quote from a more down to earth northern football forum:

by Twiggster on Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:00 pm
"CUR jimmy saVILE was a voluntary porter at the LGI, in the early 70's Meaning he had a pass key to the student nurses' dorm.
My ex wife (then fiancée), was a student nurse at the time and had lodgings in one of the student rooms there, which she shared with 3 other students.
HOW many times, did that perv saVILE "accidentally" use his keys to enter their room, at an hour when the girls would be in various states of undress. Not just their room, but almost EVERY room in the student quarters.
Going into the shower room at the end of the girls' shifts to "clean" - funny how he never went in there at times they were working - just when he knew he'd be able to perv on teenage girls in the showers.
Complaints were made about his behaviour frequently to the board of the LGI, but were hushed up or just ignored, cos of "who" he was.
The girls in my fiancées' room were realy getting scared of him, so one evening me and another of the girls' boyfriends sneaked into their room after the girls came off duty. He used his master key to "accidentally" walk in - and me and the lad were in his face. He went white and ran out. 2 mins later he was back with security to have me and the other lad thrown out. (No male friends allowed in student nurses rooms rule!)...
He warned the girls if owt was said, they would lose their jobs. He never went back to their room again, but continued doing the same thing in other student rooms.
Moving on 6 months...
Student nurses Xmas ball at Leeds Poly. I was one of the DJ's for the mobile disco they hired. Was a great evening with everyone having fun. In walks saVILE and wants to take over the turntables! He was told to fekk off in no uncertain terms.
So he goes on the dance floor. I was on the wheels at the time and one of the other dj's pointed to saVILE dancing close to my fiancée, who was a bit distressed with his attempts to dirty dance her. Mate took over and whilst I was walking towards them, I saw him grope her hard. She slapped his face, he slapped her and I went for him. I had him on the floor in a second and began beating the crap out of him. Now, I'm no fighter but I had the red mist and he was begging me to stop.
Luckily the two bouncers on duty were mates of mine and let me pummel him a good while, until I'd calmed down a bit. They finally pulled me off him and threw him out, giving him a few more kicks along the way. I walked back onstage to a round of applause.
SaVILE tried to bring assault charges against me and the bouncers but there were a LOT of witnesses who saw him grope my girlfriend and it was all hushed up.
Hushed up, like his attempted rape of another student nurse, who was only saved as an ambulance man happened to be in the vicinity and heard the lass scream. SaVILE laughed it off as "a bit of fun". Lass too scared to make a police statement. Again, all complaints were hushed over and ignored..."you can't accuse a saint like jimmy - he is working here for free", was the reply from the top.
My PERSONAL experience of the twot.
Then you have a mate of mine (yes, ok, not my personal experience - but I have heard this from his daughter's mouth), after the lass (8 at the time) was on Jim'llfix it, at the studios.
"When Daddy went to sign some papers, Jimmy was stroking my leg and was trying to touch my nickers"...
He admitted he held her leg to "comfort her as she was scared". She never actually did the show, as she didn't want to be near him.
Jimmy saVILE was a horrible and detestable pervert, which was glossed over as he was a media darling. Untouchable for those who he abused.
I am happy I got to kick the crap out of him."

http://www.motforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=25096#p372562

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: GUEST,Doc John
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 01:25 PM

I noticed that the odious Esther Rantzen has jumped on the band waggon: obviously her career needs a boost after that dismal election performance.
There's talk of taking away Sir Jimmy's knigthood, even though he's dead. We could start a trend here: Lord Byron was really suspect, let's strip him of his peerage. Shrodinger (he of the cat) was very dodgy: away with his Nobel Prize. Lewis Carroll, those photographs: defrocked, of course. Did Eric Gill have any honours?

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 02:23 PM

No it didn't Keith
I say it did, and I am sure that anyone reading those statements would agree.
However, as I have no wish to argue it with you, I will agree to differ.

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: GUEST,CS
Date: 03 Oct 12 - 02:36 PM

More from Coleen Nolan of the groping pic. Savile asked her to go to an hotel with him afterwards:

Sir Jimmy Savile suggested to Coleen Nolan that she join him at a hotel when she was just 14-years-old, the singer revealed today.
In an interview today, the Nolan Sisters singer said Sir Jimmy made the invitation following a TV recording when she was just 14.
She had been in the Top Of The Pops studio, along with her chart star sisters who were appearing on the show.
Speaking on ITV1's Alan Titchmarsh Show, she said: "At the time I was 14 and it was just an uncomfortable situation.
"The girls were doing Top Of The Pops and I stood with him while he made the announcement and it was an uncomfortable situation, the way he held me and then he mentioned about going to a hotel.
"But you didn't talk about those things then."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9585196/Jimmy-Savile-invited-me-to-hotel-when-I-was-14-claims-Coleen-Nolan.html

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: GUEST,BobL
Date: 04 Oct 12 - 03:57 AM

It may be just my way of thinking, but assuming these reports have substance, I can't help but pity the man.

Seems to me (and those who actually knew him may of course correct me) that JS had a dreadful flaw in what was an otherwise caring nature. That is, unless his charity work was nothing but a popularity-boosting false front.

Hasn't each one of us, sometime in our lives, been in a position where the only thing keeping us back from doing something we knew we shouldn't, was the certainty of being found out and being made to suffer the consequences? It was his bad luck to be susceptible to a particular temptation, and also to have abilities that put him in a position where he could yield to that temptation with relative impunity. It was his eternal disgrace to have ever done so.

I see him as one who had the potential to be the caring person he was recognized for, but blew it. Sad, really.

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 04 Oct 12 - 04:06 AM

Bless him.
Anyone still want to give him the benefit of the "doubt."

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: theleveller
Date: 04 Oct 12 - 04:23 AM

"Seems to me (and those who actually knew him may of course correct me) that JS had a dreadful flaw in what was an otherwise caring nature. That is, unless his charity work was nothing but a popularity-boosting false front."

That's exactly what it was. I'd listen to the stories of those who actually knew him. He was NOT a nice man.

Subject: RE: 2011 Obit: RIP Sir Jimmy Savile UK disc jockey
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 04 Oct 12 - 04:25 AM

"That is, unless his charity work was nothing but a popularity-boosting false front."

Yep! I strongly suspect that it probably was!

I watched last night's ITV documentary on JS and it was so grimly, unremittingly sordid I had to turn it off part way through. I would suggest that the "dreadful flaw" in JS's "otherwise caring nature" was psycopathy.