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Subject: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: MGM·Lion Date: 26 Jul 10 - 07:28 AM Why-oh-why are Mudcat processes so complex compared with other online facilities? To copy a bluey ("clicky") link to an e-mail, e.g., one simply copies & pastes a previous link. None of all this "Create a blue clicky" which I can never master ~~ & I am not a fool!. Likewise, why all the http round-the-world processes with <...> & all that to italicise, bolden, &c, instead of just clicking 'instruct-i, instruct-b' &c, as one has to do in most other processes? Any chance of simpifying all this stuff, please? Or, at least anyhow, of justifying why it is so difficult to organise on Mudcat the simple processes which appear to obtain elsewhere on the Web? ~Michael~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: Greg F. Date: 26 Jul 10 - 07:44 AM Life's a bitch, ain't it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: greg stephens Date: 26 Jul 10 - 07:53 AM I always thought that they were trying to make it a bit more difficult for links,emboldening your text with giant pink letters, cutting and pasting and all that stuff. The motivation being to cut down on the constant stream of of baloney generated by the predilections of certain Catters to get their teeth into certain topics and worry them to death (or rather a prolonged agony never quite resulting in death). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: Will Fly Date: 26 Jul 10 - 07:56 AM THE "BLUE CLICKY" COCKTAIL - RECIPE 1. Copy the URL of the site you wish to add to your post by highlighting it in your browser and doing a "copy" command. 2. The URL should now be on your computer clipboard. 3. Return to the Mudcat thread you wish to post to. 4. Click on the "Make a link ("blue clicky") link. 5. When the clicky screen appears, paste the URL into the "Link URL" box. 6. Optionally, type the name of the link - how you want it to appear in your post - into the "Link text (optional)" box. 7. Hit the "Create link" button. 8. When the HTML line of text appears, copy it into your clipboard and return to your post. 9. Paste the link HTML into the post... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: Wesley S Date: 26 Jul 10 - 08:06 AM I think you're right. You should start a new website of your own and run it exactly the way you want to. Wesley S {founding member of The National Sarcasm Society} |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: TopcatBanjo Date: 26 Jul 10 - 08:37 AM I understand what you mean about the site being somewhat primitive compared to other forums (fora?) but I think there are a few threads somewhere which deal with the whys and wherefores. However, I cannot understand why anyone who just follows the bloody instructions, can't make a blue clicky. People on here are constantly bleating "can't do the clicky" as they copy and paste useless non-links. Can't be arsed to read the instructions more like! Yes, it's a bit more convoluted compared to other sites but it only takes a few moments and is perfectly easy to follow. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: MGM·Lion Date: 26 Jul 10 - 08:51 AM I do follow the instructions; & inevitably find that when I have followed the instructions [as given, & repeated by Will above] the thread I propose to add to, along with Mudcat in toto, has vanished from my desktop. When I get it back, the copy I have started has vanished, so I start again, and it vanishes again, and so ad infinitum ~~~ So what am I doing wrong? & why should one have to follow all these idiot complicated instructions anyhow instead of just doing it the simple copy·&·paste way one can work anywhere else on the Web? Sarkie-bugger Wesley S: up yours too, on a bold-italicised-blue·clicky; & when I do start my own website, one of the ways I shall choose to run it will be to keep you off it, you fatuously aggressive little man. ~Michael~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray Date: 26 Jul 10 - 08:52 AM I suspect this thread will be soon be deleted as it concerns the Mudcat Divine Law that Must Not Be Discussed or Questioned. Basically, the whole thing resides in someone's shed rather than on a remote Internet server, hence the creaky tech. Also, if anything happens to said shed, then it's bang goes the entire archive which I would have thought was worth preserving for Malcolm Douglas's contributions alone. Still, creaky tech is the least of Mudcat's problems and when I see a thread that involves the words MUDCAT and BULLSHIT I might think of a few ways that could run right now, mostly concerning CENSORSHIP, MODERATION and PAPAL INFALLIBILITY, but I would never discuss those things on the forum in fear of EX-COMMUNICATION from what remains a very useful resource. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: maeve Date: 26 Jul 10 - 09:16 AM Michael, regarding the vanishing text issue- It's the back and forth business that creates the frustrating problem to which you allude. Try opening 3 separate tabs or windows: one for Mudcat, click on the the Make a Link to bring it up a 2nd window, and the third tab or window should contain the other site to which you wish to link. You can copy the link in your informational site, then go over to the "Make a Link" window and paste it in there, and click "Create Link". Your newly coded link info will appear. Copy/Paste that code into the Mudcat message posting window and Bob's your uncle. It can be helpful to use the "Test the link" and "Preview" options. As for the whys and wherefores of Mudcat; it belongs to Max who can do as he pleases. He's updated several functions recently, and has made it clear he is interested in continued development within his vision for Mudcat. Suggestions for his consideration can be posted in this thread. If my suggestion above isn't helpful, do please send me a PM and I'll try to help further. Regards, maeve |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray Date: 26 Jul 10 - 09:21 AM Did I just imagine it or did a post from MtheGM just magically vanish before my eyes? That's the only vanishing text issue that bothers me.
-Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: Old Vermin Date: 26 Jul 10 - 10:02 AM Compared with, say, The Guardian's Comment is Free pages, Mudcat boasts an extra and essential feature. You can preview your postas a specific exercise. This means that you have an extra chance to spot typos or errors and get the chance to reconsider the wisdom of the post. That is very good. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: Amos Date: 26 Jul 10 - 10:06 AM Why not just learn the very simple HTML codes as patiently and repeatedly explained on various threads by Joe Offer and others? Stick a bloody HREF in your text, paste in the URL, put the brackets in the right place and you're done. Oi!! You're getting all snarly because you haven't been arsed to understand the subject. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: ranger1 Date: 26 Jul 10 - 10:28 AM Amos, you're going to make him annoyed with your typo. it's "a href= (place your url here, but without the parentheses)" with the <> around it. Then type whatever you want the words in blue to say, and then plop "/a" with the <> around it afterwards and ta-dah! Your very own blue clickie thing! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: MGM·Lion Date: 26 Jul 10 - 10:30 AM No, Amos: you rudely & ill-temperedly underrate me, for motives I find it difficult to fathom. I have no difficulty with the ital & bold &c functions, which I use frequently & without too much difficulty; but still don't see why they have to be so elaborately more complicated than the methods obtaining on other sites, & on WP systems generally. The blue-clickies, as shown by the helpful posts from Maeve & Will above, are so complex that I can't think why anyone bothers with them {but thank you, Will & Maeve, nevertheless}. If you, Amos, wish to address me again, kindly mind [& mend] your manners, & moderate your modes of expression. I don't see why I should be expected to have any dealings with ill-bred yobbos of the sort you seem, for reasons which, I reiterate, I cannot comprehend, to wish to appear to be. ~Michael~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: Amos Date: 26 Jul 10 - 10:44 AM Well, if you can manage the brackets concept, stretch a bit and clear up your understanding of the href bracket, and all will be sunshine again. It is not hard if you clear up what the various bits are for. Just sayin'.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 26 Jul 10 - 10:46 AM "the thread I propose to add to, along with Mudcat in toto, has vanished from my desktop. When I get it back, the copy I have started has vanished, so I start again, and it vanishes again, and so ad infinitum ~~~ So what am I doing wrong" Maeve said it before I got to it - and forget Internet Explorer - get and use Firefox - can have dozens of tabs open at once so you just pop from one to the other to do all this magic. Actually, If I am in a hurry, i just post the plain html direct - it's not really all that hard to just copy that and paste it into a new blank tab in Firefox anyway... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: olddude Date: 26 Jul 10 - 10:58 AM Michael as a software engineer myself I completely understand why ... You have to remember that mudcat was up and running when other people were just talking about have a web forum . In fact most major companies did not yet have a website when Max launched it... It was absolutely state of the art at the time ... as far as enhancements ... well yes but that takes time and money ... Remember this site makes no money ... Max does it out of love and people donate their time and resources to keep it running. Yes today their are far more powerful technologies ... sure it can use PHP, Ajax, or Java JSP with an XML layer. Do you want to pay for it ... That is the reason |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: MGM·Lion Date: 26 Jul 10 - 11:05 AM Many thanks, Dan. That makes excellent sense indeed. ~Michael~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: Rapparee Date: 26 Jul 10 - 11:14 AM I kinda like the old-fashioned, hand-crafted, HTML. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 26 Jul 10 - 11:33 AM Here's how I do it: THE "BLUE CLICKY" COCKTAIL - RECIPE 1. Copy the URL of the site you wish to add to your post by highlighting it in your browser and doing a "copy" command. 2. The URL should now be on your computer clipboard. 3. Return to the Mudcat thread you wish to post to. 4. RIGHT lick on the "Make a link ("blue clicky") link. Select 'open in new window' from the drop-down menu that appears. 5. When the clicky screen appears, paste the URL into the "Link URL" box. 6. Optionally, type the name of the link - how you want it to appear in your post - into the "Link text (optional)" box. 7. Hit the "Create link" button. 8. When the HTML line of text appears, copy it into your clipboard and return to your post. 9. Paste the link HTML into the post... 10. BE AWARE THAT YOU WON'T SEE THE NICE NEW LINK AT THIS TIME, BUT OTHERS WILL SEE IT. ======== If the instructions explained number 10, there would far less confusion over clickies. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: Will Fly Date: 26 Jul 10 - 11:33 AM Me too. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: MGM·Lion Date: 26 Jul 10 - 11:37 AM Ih the html is bagzafun ~~ or can be. It's they danged clickies!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: jeffp Date: 26 Jul 10 - 12:02 PM One big thing to remember when making blue clickies is to include the "http://" as part of the URL. Otherwise it won't work at all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: GUEST,Spleen Cringe Date: 26 Jul 10 - 12:15 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray Date: 26 Jul 10 - 12:22 PM |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: Wesley S Date: 26 Jul 10 - 01:06 PM Actually MtheGM there is another option to starting your own website. You can ask for a refund on all the support checks you've sent Max over the years to maintain this free website which he maintains out of the goodness of his heart. What?! You've haven't been sending Max checks to help out and assist paying for the softwear? Well then - never mind.... Did you ever think that - just perhaps - the title of this thread is a little over the top? You can't seem to manage a blue clicky so it's "why all the bullshit?". It's not a "little irritation" or a "minor inconvenience"? It's "bullshit"? Your life must be pretty good if this is your definition of "bullshit". Eagerly awaiting the debut of your new and improved website..... Blue clicky |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: Rapparee Date: 26 Jul 10 - 01:11 PM .snoitcerid dewollof tsuJ .tab eht ffo thgir tuo ti dereggif I .od ot drah TAHT lla t'nia ti ,skcuhS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: olddude Date: 26 Jul 10 - 01:13 PM No problem Michael. When we compare the new forums functionality with the mudcat they do have many enhanced features. But alas it takes funds to do a face lift for sure. The blue clicky's can get to be a hassle sometimes for the extra step but nothing to bad. I am amazed he built this thing so many years ago when everyone else was trying to figure out how to do database interfaces with security and functionality. Max already had it. It was an amazing piece of programming in its day and like the old pocket watch just keeps on tickin |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: Dave the Gnome Date: 26 Jul 10 - 01:20 PM Wesley S {founding member of The National Sarcasm Society} Yea, sure. A national sarcasm society is JUST what we need... :D (eG) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: Wesley S Date: 26 Jul 10 - 01:21 PM Like we need YOUR support....... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: olddude Date: 26 Jul 10 - 01:23 PM Most forums today you will see they are built on PHPBB which has become the defacto standard that everyone uses .. I am sure if Mudcat was starting out fresh that is probably what it would have and hence all the modern functionality. The problem trying to move in that direction is over a decade of historical research that has been collected in custom table structures. A software developer would have to write scripts to copy all of the history into the new table structures that are used by PHPBB. That would be incredibly expensive or time consuming for someone to donate their time. But the Cat functions and does a great job of it also .. I actually would hate to see it look like every other Forum on the net .. takes the tradition out of it ... and we are all about tradition for sure. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: katlaughing Date: 26 Jul 10 - 01:25 PM And it is not housed in a shed! Show some respect, sheesh! Mudcat is the Woody Guthrie/LibbaCotten/etc. of the Internet and you would have it electrified, stir-fried, baked and served on a silver platter at the Ritz!LOL! MtheGM, you can always just post the link and one of us can wave our magic clone wand to make it into a blue clicky. They've been immortalized in song, ya know: clickety, which, if memory serves, Kevin did for the Mudcat CDs we did years ago. Great song! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: Amos Date: 26 Jul 10 - 01:30 PM Just so you know, Rapaire's backward text is not done through an HTML coding trick; it is done in a word processor, probably Microsoft's, and then pasted as ordinary text after it has been reversed. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: ragdall Date: 26 Jul 10 - 02:53 PM MtheGM, I appreciate the uncluttered, easy to read format of Mudcat. It's perfect just the way it is. Don't worry if you can't master making a hyperlink. Just copy and paste the URL in your post and the first html literate person who reads the thread will happily post a link. Failing that, most of us are capable of copying the URL from your post and pasting it into the address bar of our browsers if we are interested in seeing the page. rags |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray Date: 26 Jul 10 - 03:32 PM And it is not housed in a shed! Show some respect, sheesh! My hearty apologies; it should of course have read shack. For the curious, here's a rare image believed to be the home of Mudcat and maybe one or two of its elves: Mudcat HQ. Word is, those times Mudcat is off-line is actually due to Sasquatch attacks, feudin' inbread serpent-handlin' hillbillies and radioactive interference from ET activity. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: MGM·Lion Date: 26 Jul 10 - 03:50 PM Thanks for excellent advice, Rags. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: mousethief Date: 26 Jul 10 - 03:56 PM I really do not understand why the clicky programming is so hard. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: Ebbie Date: 26 Jul 10 - 04:33 PM This is amazing. Bad mouthing a resource begun and maintained and financed largely by volunteers? For shame. If only you did as well. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: GUEST,number 6 Date: 26 Jul 10 - 04:42 PM Rags ... I agree, well said! biLL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: Old Vermin Date: 26 Jul 10 - 06:59 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: Old Vermin Date: 26 Jul 10 - 07:03 PM And after the mention above of shack or shed, we note the Usenet newsgroup uk.rec.sheds, if treewind hasn't already mentioned it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: Rapparee Date: 26 Jul 10 - 07:09 PM You're 100% wrong, Amos. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: Rapparee Date: 26 Jul 10 - 07:09 PM And I CERTAINLY wouldn't use Word!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: Noreen Date: 26 Jul 10 - 07:38 PM ˙ɹǝɥʇıǝ `pɹoʍ uı ǝuop ʇ,usı sıɥʇ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: ragdall Date: 26 Jul 10 - 07:42 PM |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: Beer Date: 26 Jul 10 - 07:58 PM That is far out rags. ad. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: frogprince Date: 26 Jul 10 - 07:59 PM I wish they wuld fix Mudcat so peopel cuoldnt' clutur it up with al that stoopid html coed stuf! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: ragdall Date: 26 Jul 10 - 08:00 PM Not too far out, I hope, Adrien? I have a question for Noreen: ¿uǝǝɹoN ǝuop ʇi si ǝɹǝÉ¥ʍ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: maeve Date: 26 Jul 10 - 08:03 PM Great stuff, Clever Ones! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: ragdall Date: 26 Jul 10 - 08:18 PM Google says that the codes for upside down lettering are here http://www.upsidedowntext.com/unicode Yes, I have far too much spare time on my hands today, or rather I'm avoiding the work that I should be doing. rags slips quietly away. |
