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Lyr Req: Waters of Kylesku

Tootler 29 Jul 07 - 10:12 AM
John MacKenzie 29 Jul 07 - 10:19 AM
GUEST,Ewan McVicar 29 Jul 07 - 10:29 AM
Scotus 29 Jul 07 - 01:05 PM
Tootler 29 Jul 07 - 03:49 PM
Tootler 30 Jul 07 - 06:45 PM
Jim Dixon 01 Aug 07 - 06:19 PM
GUEST,Allan 05 Aug 07 - 03:11 PM
Tootler 05 Aug 07 - 03:22 PM
GUEST,Welsh Granny 06 Aug 07 - 07:33 AM
GUEST,Alan Ross 06 Aug 07 - 09:08 AM
GUEST 06 Aug 07 - 09:40 AM
Tootler 06 Aug 07 - 06:10 PM
Tootler 06 Aug 07 - 07:09 PM
GUEST,999--from http://www.footstompin.com/public/ 06 Dec 09 - 12:10 AM
GUEST,maybe just above 06 Dec 09 - 12:37 AM
Tootler 25 Oct 10 - 03:30 PM
Joe Offer 18 Jan 12 - 06:16 PM
GUEST,leeneia 19 Jan 12 - 10:55 AM
GUEST,catherine Stewart 18 Dec 12 - 08:32 AM
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Subject: Lyr Req: Waters of Kylescue
From: Tootler
Date: 29 Jul 07 - 10:12 AM

I remember this song being quite commonly sung when I lived in Thurso for a while but I never got round to learning it. Can anyone supply the words?

I would appreciate the tune as well as I can only remember a fragment of it. It seemed to be used as a dance tune - Waltz IIRC.

TIA


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Waters of Kylescue
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 29 Jul 07 - 10:19 AM

   Tune
I can't find the lyrics for the moment, but look under Kylesku.
Giok


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Waters of Kylescue
From: GUEST,Ewan McVicar
Date: 29 Jul 07 - 10:29 AM

At a meeting of travellers last year, organised by Bob Pegg, it was sung and firmly credited to a member of the singer's family. I recall hearing on a compilation of field recordings in the late 1950s a substantially different text to what was presented as the 'authorised' version.
Very sweet tune, similar to the Irish song whose chorus begins
'This is the way from day to day the world goes on I'm sure
Some rambling in the riches while the drinking man is poor'

Kylesku chorus as best I recall it

Of all of bonny Scotland, I dearly love the West
Its ## and ##, truly are the best
For grandeur and for beauty in the hills when passing through
There's many miles from Lairg to the waters of Kylesku


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Waters of Kylescue
From: Scotus
Date: 29 Jul 07 - 01:05 PM

It's on the 'Prestige' (I think) album 'The Berryfields of Blair' - field recordings made by Kenneth Goldstein and Hamish Henderson around 1954.

Jack


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Waters of Kylescue
From: Tootler
Date: 29 Jul 07 - 03:49 PM

Thanks for the tune Giok. I must get up to date, as I never thought to search U-Tube [g]. I did try both spellings of Kylescu(e), though.

I think the 1950's version mentioned above is likely to be the one I used to hear. I was in Thurso in 1965 and somehow the chorus you posted seems to ring a [somewhat distant] bell.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Waters of Kylescue
From: Tootler
Date: 30 Jul 07 - 06:45 PM

refresh


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Waters of Kylescue
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 06:19 PM

I found one verse and a sound file at a web site called Am Baile/The Gaelic Village:

When it's daybreak on Ben Loyal and the bonnie Kyle of Tongue
The roads we often travelled in the days when we were young
There's magic and there's beauty in those hills we're passing through
There's many a mile from Millness to the waters of Kylesku.


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Subject: Lyr Add: WATERS OF KYLESKU
From: GUEST,Allan
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 03:11 PM

Words as I remember them hope this helps

By Clebrig and Ben Loyal and the bonnie Kyle of Tounge
The roads we oft times travelled in the days when we were young
There's magic and there's beauty in those Hills while passing through
There's many a mile from Melness to the Waters of Kylesku

O'er all of Bonnie Scotland I dearly love the west
It's bens and glens in summer time they surely are the best
There's grandeur and there's beauty in those Hills while passing through
There's many a mile from Lairg to the Waters of Kylesku

By Craggie pool and Loyal and the Coldbackie sands
I've thought of them while soldering in far off foreign lands
I dream't I saw the sunset o'er the hills of Casheldhu
In fancy I was wandering by the Waters of Kylesku

There's beautiful Achfary on the shores of Loch More
Where winter waves are breakling like the seas of Skerrymore
By Laxford and Rheconich and the bonnie caves of Smoo
There's many a mile from Durness to the Waters of Kylesku

By Ledmore and Loch Assynt from Lochiver down to Stoer
You can view the wild Atlantic from it's cold and rocky shore
The clear and sparkling rivers here the salmon are not few
There's many a mile from Oykell to the waters of Kylesku

Where the Naver river rises in the heights of high Ben Hee
Through lovely Strathnaver its flowing to the sea
The heather bells on Clebrig side are decked in morning dew
There's many a mile from Langdale to the Waters of Kylesku


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Waters of Kylescue / ... Kylesku
From: Tootler
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 03:22 PM

Many thanks to all.

I found a few references to the tune, but none to the words. I will put them on my website when I have the tune properly sorted - not just in my head, but under my fingers so I can write it down.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Waters of Kylescue / ... Kylesku
From: GUEST,Welsh Granny
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 07:33 AM

Just an aside....I last was at Kylesku almost 30 years ago when there was still a ferry, which has now been replaced by a bridge.

The Hotel had no mains electricity and they were supplied by an old and rather temperamental generator...which was ok except for the playing of a tape of Scottish Country Dance music which speeded up and slowed down as the old generator coughed and wheezed. It was a great experience, anyway.

Here is a picture of sunset at Kylesku...there are other photos at this brilliant website which is a project to photograph every grid square of the British Isles

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/32129


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Waters of Kylescue / ... Kylesku
From: GUEST,Alan Ross
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 09:08 AM

The big regional hit of this song was recorded for Grampian Records of Wick, by singer Argo Cameron I think about 1964. Argo was known as the singing baker - and still does work for charity. Other Scottish versions followed his, by Calum Kennedy and the Alexander Brothers etc. It was supposed to have been composed, or lyrics were by a local water baliff called Henderson if memory is correct.

Must check the MCPS database.   The verses seem to go on and on - as there is little tune variation throughout the work.

Argo made a number of singles and LP's for defunct Grampian Records, and also recorded the Stewart Ross version (very primitive recording) of Dark Island in 1965.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Waters of Kylescue / ... Kylesku
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 09:40 AM

The North of Scotland version of the work is indeed credited as Having been written by one David Henderson. Grampian records were formed in 1964, and the Waters of Kylesku was their big local hit of the time. This explains the popularity of the song in 1965, and how Scots warbler Calum Kennedy and others of the ilk took the song up in subsequent years. I know not if its based on an earlier work, but the Henderson version would be a copyright work. I know a few people have addded verses to the tune to suit!
    Please remember to use a consistent name when you post. Messages with the "from" space blank, risk being deleted.
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Waters of Kylescue / ... Kylesku
From: Tootler
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 06:10 PM

A few listenings to Giok's UTube link stirred some old memories and I have managed to cobble together a version of the tune. It is in abc format at the end of this post.

Given I have not heard it in over 40 years (that frightens me) I am sure there are mistakes. Please tell me of any corrections I need to make.

X:1
T:Waters of Kylesku, The
M:3/4
R:Waltz
L:1/4
Q:180
K:G
d|B2 A|G2 B|d2 d|B2 d|g2 g|f2 e|d3-|d2 d|
d2 d|e2 d|d2 B|G2 B|d2 d|c2 B|A3-|A2 d|
B2 A|G2 B|d2 d|B2 d|g2 g|f2 e|d3-|d2 d|
d2 d|e2 d|d2 B|G2 A|B/2 d/2-d2|B2 A|G3-|G2||


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Subject: Tune Add: WATERS OF KYLESKU
From: Tootler
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 07:09 PM

I found a midi and comparing it with what I have just posted, some changes in the last eight bars are in order. Revised version below.

X:1
T:Waters of Kylesku, The
M:3/4
R:Waltz
L:1/4
Q:180
K:G
d|B2 A|G2 B|d2 d|B2 d|g2 g|f2 e|d3-|d2 d|
d2 d|e2 d|d2 B|G2 B|d2 d|c2 B|A3-|A2 d|
B2 A|G2 B|d2 d|B2 d|g2 g|f2 e|d3-|d2 d|
d2 d|e2 f|g2 e|d2 c|B/2 d/2-d2|B2 A|G3-|G2||


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Subject: ADD: Waters of Kylesku
From: GUEST,999--from http://www.footstompin.com/public/
Date: 06 Dec 09 - 12:10 AM

WATERS OF KYLESKU
^^
By Clebrig and Ben Loyal and the bonnie Kyle of Tongue
The roads we oft times travelled in the days when we were young
There's magic and there's beauty in those Hills while passing through
There's many a mile from Melness to the Waters of Kylesku

O'er all of Bonnie Scotland I dearly love the west
It's bens and glens in summer time they surely are the best
There's grandeur and there's beauty in those Hills while passing through
There's many a mile from Lairg to the Waters of Kylesku

By Craggie pool and Loyal and the Coldbackie sands
I've thought of them while soldering in far off foreign lands
I dream't I saw the sunset o'er the hills of Casheldhu
In fancy I was wandering by the Waters of Kylesku

There's beautiful Achfary on the shores of Loch More
Where winter waves are breakling like the seas of Skerrymore
By Laxford and Rheconich and the bonnie caves of Smoo
There's many a mile from Durness to the Waters of Kylesku

By Ledmore and Loch Assynt from Lochiver down to Stoer
You can view the wild Atlantic from it's cold and rocky shore
The clear and sparkling rivers here the salmon are not few
There's many a mile from Oykell to the waters of Kylesku

Where the Naver river rises in the heights of high Ben Hee
Through lovely Strathnaver its flowing to the sea
The heather bells on Clebrig side are decked in morning dew
There's many a mile from Langdale to the Waters of Kylesku


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Subject: LYR ADD
From: GUEST,maybe just above
Date: 06 Dec 09 - 12:37 AM

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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Waters of Kylesku
From: Tootler
Date: 25 Oct 10 - 03:30 PM

Update to this thread.

I've just been putting together a set of waltzes including Waters of Kylesku. I had another hunt round the web and found this discussion on another forum including a post from David Henderson's granddaughter. They suggest the tune is traditional. Some further confirmation would be useful, but I'm going to mark it Traditional for now.

Still haven't got round to learning the song, though!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Waters of Kylesku
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Jan 12 - 06:16 PM

Here's a message from Craig Cockburn:
    Trying to add a message here:
    http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=103655
    but the message isn't appearing.

    Here it is

    This is my story on the song (came across this page trying to see if the story is authentic or not so can't vouch for its authenticity!)

    In 1995 I was in Sutherland (Rogart) attending a Gaelic course and met
    up with some students from the Dept of Celtic at Edinburgh University.
    One was doing field recordings, the other was a piper. We went out one
    night to do some recordings from an old man living in a home. I think
    the visit is referred to in this paper:
    http://www.jstor.org/pss/40732058 I guess he would have been in his mid 80s or so. He used to play the pipes. In return for telling us his
    stories which were recorded, the student who played the pipes played a
    tune as a thank you which I instantly recognised as "gad chuimhneachadh" http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/alba/tbh/aigcridhearciuil/facail/gaol/page09.shtml
    from the singing of Art Cormack. At that point the old man (OK, let's
    call him a bodach in the nicest sense of the word) said, oh thank you
    for playing that, I composed it. Which is an astonishing coincidence
    considering it was picked by the piper at random. So my theory is that
    it was a pipe tune first, maybe pre WW2, then became a Gaelic song and
    finally and English song. Of course none of this can probably be
    verified, but it's a lovely story.


    --
    Craig Cockburn ("coburn"). Director, Siliconglen.com Ltd
    Web project and programme manager. M.Sc., CITP, C.Eng
    http://www.CraigCockburn.com


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Waters of Kylesku
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 19 Jan 12 - 10:55 AM

Tootler, a belated thank you for the abc for this tune. It will make a beautiful piece for the flute, I think.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Waters of Kylesku
From: GUEST,catherine Stewart
Date: 18 Dec 12 - 08:32 AM

This song was composed by the late Brian Stewart , nephew to Ailidh Dall


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Waters of Kylesku
From: sheila
Date: 18 Dec 12 - 05:03 PM

The connection to Ailidh Dall makes sense - the song describes the route(s) of the Summer Walkers.


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