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Songs for Apple Day

theleveller 18 Oct 07 - 10:15 AM
MMario 18 Oct 07 - 10:17 AM
GUEST,Cats at Work 18 Oct 07 - 11:11 AM
melodeonboy 18 Oct 07 - 11:34 AM
maeve 18 Oct 07 - 12:20 PM
Desert Dancer 18 Oct 07 - 12:23 PM
peregrina 18 Oct 07 - 12:31 PM
ClaireBear 18 Oct 07 - 12:39 PM
Rumncoke 18 Oct 07 - 12:44 PM
ClaireBear 18 Oct 07 - 12:54 PM
peregrina 18 Oct 07 - 01:03 PM
topical tom 18 Oct 07 - 01:13 PM
Q 18 Oct 07 - 01:29 PM
Beer 18 Oct 07 - 01:38 PM
Q 18 Oct 07 - 01:43 PM
GUEST,mg 18 Oct 07 - 01:57 PM
Snuffy 18 Oct 07 - 02:09 PM
Desert Dancer 18 Oct 07 - 02:11 PM
Mrs Scarecrow 18 Oct 07 - 02:36 PM
GUEST 18 Oct 07 - 04:14 PM
Beer 18 Oct 07 - 04:15 PM
Rumncoke 18 Oct 07 - 04:26 PM
ClaireBear 18 Oct 07 - 04:46 PM
Rumncoke 18 Oct 07 - 04:56 PM
GUEST,Georgina Boyes 18 Oct 07 - 06:13 PM
McGrath of Harlow 18 Oct 07 - 07:49 PM
Desert Dancer 18 Oct 07 - 10:42 PM
Beer 18 Oct 07 - 11:08 PM
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theleveller 19 Oct 07 - 03:34 AM
synbyn 19 Oct 07 - 05:24 AM
GUEST,Cats 19 Oct 07 - 07:06 AM
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maeve 19 Oct 07 - 07:49 AM
topical tom 19 Oct 07 - 08:02 AM
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theleveller 19 Oct 07 - 08:38 AM
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maeve 19 Oct 07 - 10:45 AM
theleveller 19 Oct 07 - 11:19 AM
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Subject: Songs fo Apple Day
From: theleveller
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 10:15 AM

This Sunday is the 18th Apple Day. This is an event started by Common Ground to celebrate British apples..

Here's what Common Ground have said:

"Common Ground's role in the revival of interest in the range of our fruits has pursued the lyrical, the local and the ecological more than the global and economic routes. But here are some shocking statistics: in 2005 we imported 71% of our apples, an 11% increase in 10 years (Defra Basic Horticultural Statistics 2006), putting our own growers out of business, causing
orchards to be pulled out, incurring more food miles, pollution, CO2 emissions, endorsing world trade in things we can grow very well ourselves.

Orchards are still being grubbed up because the world price of fruit (and concentrate) forces the farmer out of business or because the land is worth so much for development. When we lose an orchard we not only lose the trees but
the particular local varieties, together with the wisdom gathered over the generations about pruning and grafting, soil and season, variety and use. We also lose the intricacy of nature, the songs, the recipes, the cider, the juices, the festive gatherings, the hard but social work, the look of the landscape, the heritage of a working place. We sever our links with the land.
These trees are our cultural legacy along with the varied orchards that stud the landscape with their winter filigree, spring blossom, summer shade and autumn fruit."

I'm hoping to celebrate Apple Day in my own small orchard. Has anyone got any ideas of songs that might be apporpriate? Much appreciated.

You can find out more about Common Ground on

www.commonground.org.uk


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Subject: RE: Songs fo Apple Day
From: MMario
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 10:17 AM

When we lose an orchard we not only lose the trees but
the particular local varieties,


And that is the real crime.


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: GUEST,Cats at Work
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 11:11 AM

'Allen Apple' a song about the customs associated with peeling and throwing the peel over your shoulder.


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: melodeonboy
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 11:34 AM

I can't think of any apple songs off hand, but I agree 100% with what you say, leveller.


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: maeve
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 12:20 PM

Funny! Apple Day in Maine at the Common Ground Fair Education Building is sponsored by MOFGA (Maine Organic Farmers and Gardeners Association) and also takes place this Saturday, Oct. 20.

We'll be taking apples for identification, but I haven't heard of any musical plans. That could be fun.

"Shoofly pie, and apple pandowdy..."

What about the old apple tree wassail songs?

Down in the BS section there's a thread about the apple harvest as seen from a train, and my question there regarding what Mudcatters' favorite old-time and modern apple varieties might be. I'll go now and bump it up.

maeve


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 12:23 PM

An obvious choice:
Apple Tree Wassail, cited in the DT as sung by Nowell Sing We Clear, but probably better known on yer side of the pond as sung (quite similarly!) by the Watersons.

Another Waterson apple wassail

More apple wassailing songs & info from another thread entitled, "The beauty of apple trees".

DT search results for "apple", undoubtedly needing some weeding out.

~ Becky in Tucson


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: peregrina
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 12:31 PM

The Johnny Appleseed Grace song--if it's not in DT I'll look up the words


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Subject: Lyr Add: HOODENING SONG
From: ClaireBear
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 12:39 PM

Now where did I learn this song/chant? From Oysterband? Swan Arcade? Anyway, it was on a recording from about 25 years ago, now lost to me in the mists of time, I fear. My band did a really cool unaccompanied arrangement of it, starting in unison, then moving to harmony and finally performing it as a round. As I recall, the song went like this:

HOODENING SONG

Three jolly hoodening boys,
Lately come from town
For apples and for money
We've searched the country round.
Apples,
Capfuls,
Half-a-bushel-basketfuls,
Please be sure to give us,
Happy we will be,
God bless ev'ry poor man
Who's got an apple tree.

(By the way, Googling the word hoodening will bring many goodies about the hoodening tradition in East Kent, though not seemingly this particular lyric.)


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: Rumncoke
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 12:44 PM

Three jolly hoodening boys
Lately come to town
For apples and for money
we search the country round
What you please to give us
Happy we shall be
God bless every poor man
who's got an apple tree

hats full
caps full
half a bushel bag full
God bless every poor man
Who's got an apple tree.


The tune is 'Sing a song of sixpence', the hats full to bags full is chanted (shouted) and clapped.
one two
one two
one and two and three four

I have no idea where it came from - it might go all the way back to my childhood when we had an orchard of 'Crispin' apples, with pears plums and gooseberries too.

You should wassail after the shortest day and before the end of Christmas, by moonlight, and light three fires at each corner of the orchard, and one in the centre, and walk around the boundary, clockwise, passing between one fire on the outside and two on the inside at each corner, and touch all the outermost trees of the orchard, with your right hand as you go.


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: ClaireBear
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 12:54 PM

Thank you for your better recollection of the words than mine -- and oh, the tradition! That part I could never get from a recording (here in benighted California I'm unlikely to get it any other way), but I live in the midst of an apple orchard, and I feel a revival coming on.


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: peregrina
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 01:03 PM

Apple Day. Nice idea. I have two old apple trees, no orchard, but maybe I'll mark the day too...

The Johnny Appleseed song is already here:

.8169 - Thread - Message - Lyr Add: Johnny Appleseed Grace - Aug 6 2003 9:51AM -   George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: topical tom
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 01:13 PM

" Don't Sit Under the Apple Tree With any else but Me "(an old chestnut but one which goes to the core of love)

" When it's Apple-picking Time in Annapolis Valley"

   Just a couple of seeds to sow for music and Nature.


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: Q
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 01:29 PM

I greatly miss the old Winesap, which disappeared long ago. It was our preferred variety for pies, and I liked a strong, sharp apple so it was my personal favorite for eating. They were good keepers too.

The new variety which seems to be known by several names- Pink Lady, Cripps pink, Braeburn, etc., is not bad for eating, but I am still nostalgic for Winesaps.
I used to like the old Golden Delicious, but they seem to have lost flavor- not the same as the ones I remember from childhood.

Does anyone know of a nursery in Canada or U. S. where old varieties can be found?


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: Beer
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 01:38 PM

Don't know that one topical tom, but I do know "When it's Apple Blossom Time in Annapolis Valley".
Beer (adrien)


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: Q
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 01:43 PM

Some 19th c. apple songs-

Where the Apple Praties Grow
Solon Shingle and His Great Apple-sass Case
A Little More cider
I'll Be with You in Apple Blossom Time
The Sour Apple Tree
Ida, Sweet as Apple Cider
In the Shade of the Old Apple Tree
Old Apple Tree in the Orchard
All Around the Green Apple Tree
Apple Blossoms
Under the Old Apple Tree
Down by the Blooming Apple Tree
Burst Ye Apple Buds
Apple of My Eye
Apple Song- Chanson du cidre
Up to the Apple Boughs Down in the Clover

The above are in American Memory.


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 01:57 PM

Sipping cider through a straw
Dead dog cider
Appleseed John by New Christy Minstrals
I love an apple I love a pear
John McC. about ??was it him..if you love me plant an apple tree


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: Snuffy
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 02:09 PM

Apple Day Song, which (in Warwickshire at least) was 7th October.


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 02:11 PM

Beer, is that the same one I know as "When it's apple blossom time in Orange, New Jersey"??

~ Becky now in Tucson, formerly of the Garden State


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: Mrs Scarecrow
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 02:36 PM

I have a wassail song on my latest CD 'Annie's going to sing a song'
I can put the words here if anyon eis interested but dont know how to put the tune. May be I should give some thought to a specific Apple day song.


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Subject: Lyr Add: WHEN IT'S APPLE BLOSSOM TIME IN ANNAPOLIS
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 04:14 PM

Don't Know Desert Dancer but here is a paste of the one I know.

There's a valley leading down from the great Atlantic
to the westward where all beauty can be found.
Many years I've lived amongst the glory found there,
and to the world I wish this message known.

When it's apple blossom time in Annapolis Valley,
where all nature is in bloom to beautify;
When it's apple blossom time in Annapolis Valley,
where God's hand has made a land of Paradise.

There's a place that's dear to me in Annapolis Valley,
it's a little dream home nestled 'mongst the hills.
Silv'ry moonbeams dancing across the golden blossoms,
it brings back fondest memories to me.

When evening shadows fall on Annapolis Valley,
and sweet perfume from the blossoms fills the air,
There's no other place for me 'cause I'm so happy,
where nature has built beauty to compare.

Composed - By "ALBERTA SLIM" 1948 KENTVILLE. N.S.
AND SUNG AT THE "KENTVILLE APPLE BLOSSOM
FESTIVAL"


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: Beer
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 04:15 PM

Guest is me Beer(adrien)


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: Rumncoke
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 04:26 PM

Wow Clairebear and I must have been typing at almost the same moment - almost the same words but not from the same source - I don't have recordings.

I have only two apple trees and a goosebery bush, a grape vine and some currant bushes, but I will go out and wassail them, just for the continuity.

The apple crop is so heavy this year that is is breaking the branches, so it must work.


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: ClaireBear
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 04:46 PM

Rumncoke, that's amazing -- I had assumed you were correcting my faulty memory (for example, I am fairly sure in retrospect that your "What you please to give us" is what was in the recording I had; my memory is the problem).

It never occurred to me that you and I were typing at the same time.
My oh my!


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: Rumncoke
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 04:56 PM

A happy synchronisity.


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: GUEST,Georgina Boyes
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 06:13 PM

Normandy Orchards?
And June Tabor's got a whole album called 'Apple'


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 07:49 PM

Apple Day? There's already a traditional Oak Apple Day, May 29th, and has been for hundreds of years. With associated customs - for example in Great Wishford near Wilton in Wiltshire.


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 10:42 PM

Beer(adrien),

Mine's pretty different -- just a fragment of summer-camp or college-song doggerel, covering various fruity topics. And, surprisingly, I don't find it here in full...

Oh, it's apple blossom time in Orange, New Jersey, we'll make a peach of a pear.

Oh, you cantelope in a banana wagon, or you'll mango your toe.

(I learned another verse or finisher once upon a time, but didn't retain it, unfortunately.)

~ Becky in Tucson


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: Beer
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 11:08 PM

Thanks for that Becky. I tried singing your words to my submission but it don't fit. Guess they are two different songs.
Wonder where topical tom is? His title is also different that mine. Wonder if he has a different song as well.


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: Beer
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 11:14 PM

Hay Becky?? Just finished writing to someone in Auzie land and now you from Tucson.   San Francisco right?
Mudcat is great.


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: theleveller
Date: 19 Oct 07 - 03:34 AM

Wow! THanks for all the great suggestions.

Rumncoke suggest wassailling - we do that on twelfth night - 5th January. Custom says that you should fire shotguns and bang pots and pans - Shotguns in the hands of drunken revellers has been frowned on (not least by my eldest son who is a police firearms officer)so we just do the pans and dustbin lids etc., pour cider on the roots of the 'queen' tree (a large Bramley)and hang toast dipped in cider in the branches.

Apple Day is a way of promoting the many different and old varieties of apples that are fast disappearing. What the posts here suggest is a real fondness and nostalgia for apple trees, both in the UK and across the pond. I planted my own small orchard of about 10 trees myself and have loved watching them grow over the years. It's my favourite place to go and sit in any season - the 'genius loci' really seems to live there. Strangely, someone told me recently that there was an orchard there many years ago but it had been grubbed up.


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: synbyn
Date: 19 Oct 07 - 05:24 AM

I've written 2: Sweet Pippin- recorded by Tundra on A Kentish Garland, which praises all varieties wxcept Golden Delicious and The Appling song, recently written, which takes you through the fruitsman's year... as sung at the Deal Festival this year...


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: GUEST,Cats
Date: 19 Oct 07 - 07:06 AM

Annie, I think you should post your wassail. Kathy


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Oct 07 - 07:44 AM

Q- For a wonderfully rich (American) source of old apple varieties (along with a multitude of other fruit trees) take a look at Fedco Trees , PO Box 520, Waterville, ME 04903-0520 (Link below.) We've bought many trees, perennials, potatoes, ans seeds there, and have always been pleased. The 2008 catalog apple list includes Winesap. Feel free to send me a PM if you have any questions about them.

Fedco Trees cooperative: Click on the link & select "Trees "


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: maeve
Date: 19 Oct 07 - 07:49 AM

Oops! Sorry, that last GUEST was me, having lost my cooky.

maeve


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: topical tom
Date: 19 Oct 07 - 08:02 AM

Beer:   Of course you know the song "When it's Apple Blossom Time in Annapolis Valley".The version I've heard is the same as GUEST posted.The other song Very old) goes

       dON'T SIT UNDER THE APPLE TREE WITH ANYONE ELSE BUT ME, NO NO NO
       ANYONE ELSE BUT ME NO NO NO ANYONE ELSE BUT ME NO NO NO


    Those are the only words I remember! I'm sure the rest can be found by googling or from a Mudcatter.


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: topical tom
Date: 19 Oct 07 - 08:06 AM

Don't sit under the apple tree with anyone else but me
Anyone else but me, anyone else but me, no, no, no
Don't sit under the apple tree with anyone else but me
'Til I come marchin' home

/ G - GC G / D - GC GD / G - GC G / D - G - /

Don't go walkin' down Lovers' Lane with anyone else but me
Anyone else but me, anyone else but me, no, no, no
Don't go walkin' down Lovers' Lane with anyone else but me
'Til I come marchin' home

I just got word from a guy who heard
From the guy next door to me
The girl he met just loves to pet
And it fits you to a T
So, don't sit under the apple tree with anyone else but me
'Til I come marchin' home

/ C - / GD G / Em - / D - / G - GC G / D - G - /

Don't give out with those lips of yours to anyone else but me
Anyone else but me, anyone else but me, no, no, no
Watch those girls on foreign shores, you'll have to report to me
When you come marchin' home

Don't hold anyone on your knee, you better be true to me
You better be true to me, you better be true to me
Don't hold anyone on your knee, you're gettin' the third degree
When you come marchin' home

You're on your own where there is no phone
And I can't keep tabs on you
Be fair to me, I'll guarantee
This is one thing that I'll do
I won't sit under the apple tree with anyone else but you
'Til you come marchin' home

Don't sit under the apple tree with anyone else but me
I know the apple tree is reserved for you and me
And I'll be true 'til you come marchin' home

/ G - GC G / D - D7 - / A - D7 - G - GC G /

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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: theleveller
Date: 19 Oct 07 - 08:38 AM

One of the songs I will be singing is one I wrote called 'The Oak and the Apple' bemoaning the loss, first of our ancient woodlands, then of our old orchards. It was inspired by one of the founders of Common Ground, the late Roger Deakin, who was an old friend of mine. Roger died last August, aged only 63, of a brain tumour. For those of you who haven't yet discovered Roger's work, I heartily recommend his two books: 'Waterlog', about wild swimming around the UK, and the new one that he finished just before his death: 'Wildwood'. These are absolute masterpieces of modern nature writing. You can also find out more about Roger in Robert MacFarlane's fine book 'The Wild Places'. Roger was also a broadcaster and film maker and contributed to the compendium 'England in Particular', published by Commn Ground's sister organisation of the same name


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: Hollowfox
Date: 19 Oct 07 - 10:31 AM

Apple Picker's Reel (in DT) is nice, although not British.


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: maeve
Date: 19 Oct 07 - 10:45 AM

So bump those apple songs back to the top
We must have more songs; it's too early to stop!

maeve


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: theleveller
Date: 19 Oct 07 - 11:19 AM

Just found this. Not sure if it has a tune. Might just have to very quickly write (or steal) one.

The Apple's Song
Tap me with your finger,
rub me with your sleeve,
hold me, sniff me, peel me
curling round and round
till I burst out white and cold
from my tight red coat
and tingle in your palm

as if I'd melt and breathe
a living pomander
waiting for the minute
of joy when you lift me
to your mouth and crush me
and in taste and fragrance
I race through your head
in my dizzy dissolve.

I sit in the bowl
in my cool corner
and watch you as you pass
smoothing your apron.
Are you thirsty yet?
My eyes are shining.


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 19 Oct 07 - 12:15 PM

Oh gosh! It's a Macintosh
Squash it into applesauce
Golden delicious apples
Northern Spy, Granny Smith
Lip-smackin' Pippins with cheese -
How do you like them apples?

- Jan Harmon, Applesauce
recorded by Nick Apollonio

Dan Schatz


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: Ferrara
Date: 19 Oct 07 - 01:25 PM

My mom used to sing the first verse of "Don't Sit Under the Apple Tree."

Not trad, but I still like "Cherry Pink and Apple Blossom White."

Just got back from an Apple Weekend in southwest Virginia. Sigh.... There was a 15-degree frost in mid April and all the buds froze so there were no home grown apples this year.

I think I was still finding Winesaps a couple of years ago, haven't checked lately. I do enjoy many of the new varieties, mostly Pink Lady, Gala (if locally grown they are fantastic) and Nittany. Nittany is the hardest to find.


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: Mrs Scarecrow
Date: 19 Oct 07 - 02:35 PM

Wassail lovely Apple tree
Grow thee well, bare thee well
tonight we've come to sing to thee
May your boughs be heavy laden

And we hope this coming year
Grow...etc
Barrels of apples you will bare
May your.....

Give us apples for our pie (refrain1)
And some for cider when we're dry (refrain2)

Give us apples for our sauce (refrain1)
And some to eat as we cook of course (refrain 2)

And you the master of these trees (ref 1)
a silver sixpence if you please (ref2)

May all the trees here in this fold ( r1)
Be blessed with fruit red green or gold (r2)

And that is all we've come to say (r1)
Wassail good tree till that autumn day
When your boughs are heavy laden.

I sang it to the trees on my allotment in January and they have done very well but I think the wet summer and warm autumn have more to do with it.
Ann


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: maeve
Date: 19 Oct 07 - 04:48 PM

Ferrara- What in particular do you like about the Nittany apple? We haven't seen that one here at all.

More songs, more songs
More songs to cheer us all.
Give us a tune and some tasty old songs
To sing to our good apple trees in the fall.

maeve


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 20 Oct 07 - 02:43 AM

Are apples indigenous to the US?

What other fruit are found in the US that are not found elsewhere in the world?


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: maeve
Date: 20 Oct 07 - 06:30 AM

Les in Chorlton- No, apples are not indigenous to North America. Only certain species of crabapple were here, and it seems they were all so sour/bitter the Native Americans didn't make much use of them. With the coming of European settlers, apples were introduced. Since the earliest colonists could only bring apple seeds (rather than bare root stock or scions) each seed planted produced a new variety. Over the years trees with good fruit were kept and reproduced via grafts.

I believe that the Pawpaw (Asimina triloba) is found here exclusively, although it has relatives elsewhere. The American cranberry (Vaccinium macrocarpon) is another that's native to N. Am while having relatives in other parts of the world. I'm guessing that Prickly Pear Cactus is another native. Tomatoes, of course are fruits native to South America.

Dan Schatz- Thanks for that reminder about Jan's apple song. She was a member of our chorus, and Nick is a wonderful Maine luthier and musician as well as a friend.

maeve


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: GUEST,Dave'swife on other computer
Date: 20 Oct 07 - 08:53 AM

this puts me in mind to go to the Farmers market this afternoon and get some lovely apples to make an Eve's Pudding!

Being in Los Angeles, the only way to find really good old varieties of apples is to go to a farmer's market. The ones in the stores are nice but they are all mostly new varieties and come from japan or New Zeland. nothing wrong tose apples mind you but they just aren't quite the same as heirloom varities with more dappled skins and less perfect shapes. Back East in new York, we had a wider selection of old types which I miss.


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: maeve
Date: 20 Oct 07 - 06:14 PM

Guest Dave's Wife- What old apples do you especially miss? We're beginning an orchard here in Maine and are interested in varieties people remember from an earlier time in their lives.

maeve


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: ClaireBear
Date: 21 Oct 07 - 11:27 AM

Maeve, may I answer that antique apple question too? The best apple I've ever tasted was a Spitzenberg. We've tried to grow them here in our orchard, but coastal northern California is not cold enough to give the aples their distinctive tang. Maine should be just about perfect! (The variety was developed in New York, I've read.)

Claire


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Subject: RE: Songs for Apple Day
From: maeve
Date: 21 Oct 07 - 06:21 PM

Thanks, Claire, I'm glad you responded to that bit of drift. Thomas Jefferson also liked that one the best, and was also frustrated in his attempts to grow it well in Virginia, for the same reason.

I've begun a new thread down below, Your Favorite Antique Apple Trees, for anyone else who'd like to post about apples rather than songs about apples. This thread's too much fun to interrupt! If no one minds, I'll copy/paste the last few posts dealing with apple growing and favorite varieties, to set the mood. So: Les, Ferrara, Dave's Wife, ClaireBear- anyone mind?

maeve


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