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Subject: Ballad of Bethnal Green
From: Folkbloke
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 07:36 PM

Does anyone know of any verses to the above song. I have 3, the first, second and last. I know there is at least one more. The first verse goes "I tell a tale of a jealous male & a maid of sweet 16, She was blonde and dumb and lived with her mum.....Bethnal green. She worked all week for a rich old Greek for her Pa was on the dole, And her one delight was a Friday night when she had a little rock & Roll." Chorus(roughly) With my rit fa la, to me follo diddleda. etc. Please anyone help. Also Who wrote it?


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Subject: RE: Ballad of Bethnal Green
From: Bill D
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 07:41 PM

gee...and here I was expecting a message about the original! "The Blind Beggar's Daughter of Bednal Green"....'fraid I can't help you..


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Subject: RE: Ballad of Bethnal Green
From: Captain Swing
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 07:44 PM

I remember seeing the bloke who wrote this song sing it but I can't remember his name. Richard Digance springs to mind but I don't really think it was him. There was a verse about a Spaniard in it and lots of references to drugs and a line about 'ma feeling a little below pa'. It'll come to me. It'll come to me.


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Subject: RE: Ballad of Bethnal Green
From:
Date: 02 Jul 99 - 08:49 AM

I think the author was Paddy Roberts


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Subject: RE: Ballad of Bethnal Green
From: Bert
Date: 02 Jul 99 - 08:57 AM

Oh my gawd! that was a long time ago
Yes it was Paddy Roberts
Just a fragment remains

.....and he went all white
and he sloshed her right
in the middle of her Cha Cha Cha
He came before a man of the Law
Who cried that will not do
I have had quite enough
of the sort of stuff
that we get from the likes of you
And was she peeved
when he received a longish term in clink
in a fit of pique she married the Greek.
and now she's dressed in mink
to my rit fal dal to my titty fal dal
to my ritty titty fal dal day

Bert


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Subject: RE: Ballad of Bethnal Green
From: Folkbloke
Date: 02 Jul 99 - 08:13 PM

Thanks Bert, you've hit the nail right on the head. Now all we need is the first bit of the penultimate verse. Any offers anyone? Folkbloke.


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Subject: RE: Ballad of Bethnal Green
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Date: 26 Dec 99 - 03:23 AM


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Subject: RE: Ballad of Bethnal Green
From: Johnnie L
Date: 26 Dec 99 - 11:31 PM

I went to a party in Brisbane last week where a friend sang "Ballad of Bethnal Green".I've just phoned her and she's coming round at New year and bringing the words. Have a good New Year.


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Subject: RE: Ballad of Bethnal Green
From: Alan Francis
Date: 27 Dec 99 - 08:14 AM

THE BALLAD OF BETHNAL GREEN
by Paddy Roberts

I sing a tale of a jealous male and a maid of sweet sixteen,
She was blonde and dumb and she lived with her Mum on the fringe of Bethnal Green
She worked all week for a rich old Greek for her Dad was on the dole
And her one delight was a Friday night when she had a little rock and roll

Ch To my rit-fal-lal, to my titty-fal-dal, to my itty-bitty-fal-dal-day

Then one fine day in the month of May, she met her big romance,
He was dark and sleek with a scar on his cheek and a pair of drainpipe pants
She said "With you I could be so true, through all the years to come!"
For she loved the gay, abandoned way he chewed his chewing gum.

Ch

It started well, because he fell for all her girlish charms,
But was most put out when he caught her out in somebody else's arms,
He said "My dear, you know, I fear, this is going a bit too far"
Then he went quite white and sloshed right in the middle of a cha-cha-cha

Ch

They went before a man of the law, who said, "This will not do!
I've had quite enough of the sort of stuff I get from the likes of you!"
She was a wee bit peeved when he received a longish term in clink
In a fit of pique she married the Greek and now she's dressed in mink

Ch x2

The "folk process" may have changed a little of the above in the 35 years or so that I've been singing it, but it's pretty close.

Paddy Roberts was a South African songwriter who operated under a number of aliases. At one time he was President of the Songwriters' Guild in the UK. Other songs of his that are recommended: "The Ballad of Barking Creek", "Love isn't what it used to be", "Tattooed Lady".

As far as I am aware, none of his songs are available on CD or tape at present but I have all the above on vinyl by Paddy Roberts and could provide copies on tape if contacted. I'm still a little old-fashioned in my reproductive habits.^^


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Subject: RE: Ballad of Bethnal Green
From: Micca
Date: 27 Dec 99 - 08:39 AM

I think he may also have written "Fanlight Fanny the frowsy Nightclub Queen" for Clinton Ford. But isn't that a song title to cause confusion with our American cousins containing 2 words with distinctly different meanings depending on which side of the pond you live, I shudder to think what they would understand it to mean.


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Subject: RE: Ballad of Bethnal Green
From: Alan Francis
Date: 27 Dec 99 - 02:25 PM

Erratum:

Verse 3 should read "sloshed her right"


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Subject: RE: Ballad of Bethnal Green
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 27 Dec 99 - 02:43 PM

"Have some Madeira, m'dear!"


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Subject: RE: Ballad of Bethnal Green
From: Bugsy
Date: 30 Dec 99 - 07:13 PM

There should be another thread with the words to Bethnal Green on it. I remember back in July when I first found Mudcat, this thread went on for several days whilst the lyrics were refined over and over.

Cheers Bugsy


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Subject: RE: Ballad of Bethnal Green
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 18 Dec 00 - 12:48 AM

I've come across two thin volumes for sale of Paddy Roberts songs including Barking Creek and Tattooed Lady. They are quite frankly very expensive for what they are and I'm loathe to buy them just to post the lyrics and tunes for the DT. Does anyone else have these please that I might be able to draw upon at some time in the future?

Regards, John


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Subject: RE: Ballad of Bethnal Green
From: GUEST,Charles Knight
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 09:36 PM

I have an original LP of Paddy Robert's songs:-

The Ballad of Bethnel Green;
The Englishman is noted for his sang froid;
Love isn't what it used to be;
[I have forgotten the fourth, I'll find it soon and post the actual lyrics.]

I should point out there are some minor discreopancies with the words I know I hear and the ons's posted, patience will reward you the actual lyrics, very soon.

I try not to play this ORGIGINAL record too often, as it was made in 1952..!
Although I am only 27 myself...

Thanks,

C. Knight, The British Over-Seas Territories, South Atlantic Ocean.


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Subject: RE: Ballad of Bethnal Green
From: Leadfingers
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 10:06 PM

Only four tracks is an EP (Extended play) at 45 rpm ! 1952 ? I have Strictly for Grown Ups -Decca DFE6584 -1959- The tracks are

The Ballad of Bethnall Green ,

L'Anglais Avec Son sang-froid

Follow Me

Love Isn't What It Used to Be


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Subject: RE: Ballad of Bethnal Green
From: Bonecruncher
Date: 12 Sep 07 - 08:21 PM

Leadfinger's copy of Strictly For Grow-ups must be the cheap one (typical Leadfingers money-saving measure)-Sorry, Terry.
My copy, also Strictly For Grown-ups, Decca LF1322, has the following:-
1. Love Isn't What It Used To Be
2. Follow Me
3. Don't Upset The Little Kiddiewinks
4. The Architect
5. The Big Dee Jay
6. L'Anglais avec son Sang-froid

7. The Ballad of Bethnall Green
8. Love In A mist
9. A Short Song
10. Growing Old
11. I've Got The Blues
12. Lavender Cowboy
13. Poor Little Country Girl.

Must try and learn some of them again!

Colyn.


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Subject: RE: Ballad of Bethnal Green
From: Leadfingers
Date: 12 Sep 07 - 08:51 PM

Guest Charles Knight only says four tracks - thats an EP , Not an LP Colyn ! And I couldnt get the LP at the time ! LOL


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Subject: RE: Ballad of Bethnal Green
From: Scorpio
Date: 13 Sep 07 - 11:28 AM

I remember the song, but not the tune. Paddy borrowed a lot of well-known folk tunes - which did he use for Bethnall Green?


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Subject: RE: Ballad of Bethnal Green
From: Mr Happy
Date: 13 Sep 07 - 11:31 AM

its ver similar to 'Ugly Duckling'


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Subject: RE: Ballad of Bethnal Green
From: GUEST,Warwick Slade
Date: 16 Sep 07 - 05:20 AM

Well blow me. I did this song last week at a club and it was well recieved. I think people had forgotten it. Just shows if you wait long enough your set from the '60 is new again!
Warwick


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Subject: RE: Ballad of Bethnal Green
From: bubblyrat
Date: 16 Sep 07 - 09:19 AM

Anniecat and I have put in our repertoire, such as it is, recently, and it seems to be both well-received and well-remembered( by those of a certain age !! ). I cannot say that the tune that we use is anything remotely like "The Ugly Duckling", or not the Danny Kaye version, anyway. The point is, that most people seem to like that sort of material, as long as it"s introduced as a fine contemporary comic song (which it is ) and not as a traditional folk song (which it aint !! ). I try to liven it up a bit by doing little instrumental breaks with "wrong notes", a la Les Dawson, which seems to go down well-----or not !!


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Subject: RE: Ballad of Bethnal Green
From: Gurney
Date: 17 Sep 07 - 01:52 AM

V3 should read "but he had some doubt when he caught her out...."
and the lastV "and was she peeved...."

Great songwriter, Paddy. I still find bits of 'Tattooed Lady' in my memory.


Oh. No. Wait a moment......


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Subject: RE: Ballad of Bethnal Green
From: GUEST,Chris Murray
Date: 17 Sep 07 - 02:26 PM

2 Paddy Roberts CDs still for sale on Amazon: Songs for Gay Dogs/Funny World and Strictly for Grown Ups/Tries Again. The latter one has all of the tracks that have been mentioned on this thread.

"And it's tata tattoo for ever"


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ballad of Bethnal Green (Paddy Roberts)
From: GUEST,Saorise
Date: 20 Jan 09 - 12:50 PM

"Have some Madeira, m'dear!"

Ah no! that was Flanders and Swan.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ballad of Bethnal Green (Paddy Roberts)
From: Gurney
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 02:01 AM

It's on 'Paddy Roberts Tries Again' which I have on LP. Alan's verses are accurate except for a couple of words, and we all folk-process songs anyway.

I seem to remember that I typed it out on a similar thread some years ago. Perhaps it never made it onto the DT. Have to check.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ballad of Bethnal Green (Paddy Roberts)
From: Gurney
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 02:06 AM

Not on the DT, but a forum search finds it. Or at least, a version very slightly nearer PR's original. Not my post.

The folk-process WORKS, man.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ballad of Bethnal Green (Paddy Roberts)
From: GUEST,Mike Selby, London
Date: 04 Aug 09 - 01:26 PM

Hi, Alan Francis,

I know that my ancient Mum and Dad (84 and 91) would be thrilled to have a copy of "The Englishman with his usual bloody cold", and I (60) would similarly enjoy hearing "The Ballad of Bethnal Green" again! You say in your post that you would be prepared to copy them to ??tape??!! As you may imagine, I would far prefer them in a digital format, but beggars can't be choosers, so I would be happy to make do with tape (although I might be quite hard-pressed to find a working tape player...)

Can you let me know when/how//how much, and let's do it!
Contact me at mselby@f2s.com

Mike Selby
London
UK


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ballad of Bethnal Green (Paddy Roberts)
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Oct 09 - 12:40 PM

My version:

I TELL THE tale of a jealous male and a maid of sweet sixteen,
She was blonde and dumb and she lived with her Mum on the fringe of Bethnal Green
She worked all week for a rich old Greek 'COS her Dad was on the dole
And her one delight was a Friday night when she had a little rock and roll

Ch To my IT-fal-DAL, to my titty-fal-dal, to my itty-bitty-fal-dal-day

Then one fine day in the month of May, she met her TRUE romance,
He was TALL and sleek with a scar on his cheek and a pair of drainpipe pants
She said "With you I could be so true, through all the years to come!"
AND she loved the gay, abandoned way he chewed his chewing gum.

Ch

THINGS WENT QUITE well, FOR SOON he fell for all her girlish charms,
UNTIL ONE NIGHT he caught her RIGHT in someONE else's arms,
He said "LOOK HERE, you know, MY DEAR, this is going a bit too far"
Then he TURNED quite white and HE sloshed right in the middle of HER cha-cha-cha

Ch

HE went before a man of the law, who said, "This will not do!
I've had quite enough of the sort of stuff THAT I get from the likes of you!"
AND WAS SHE peeved when he received a longish term in clink
In a fit of pique she married the Greek and now she's dressed in mink

Ch x2


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ballad of Bethnal Green (Paddy Roberts)
From: Silas
Date: 04 Oct 09 - 01:06 PM

Its 'And then one night in the pale moon light she met her big romance'


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ballad of Bethnal Green (Paddy Roberts)
From: GUEST,David
Date: 08 Apr 11 - 01:00 PM

It started well because he fell for all her girlish charms
BUT HE HAD SOME DOUBT when he caught her out in someone else's arm
He said look here, you know my dear, this is going a bit too far
Then he went quite white and he sloshed her right
In the middle of her cha cha cha


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ballad of Bethnal Green (Paddy Roberts)
From: GUEST,Sam
Date: 11 Apr 13 - 07:11 AM

What are the chords?


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