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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Oct 12 - 07:25 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Oct 12 - 10:06 AM

Works for me, LH... The first thing I would do is create an "Open Mic" TV station and let people get up and offer their own ideas and perspectives... Do it just like other open mics... 15-20 minutes or so and if people like ya' then they vote with their computers so that their isp's are noted to prevent voting twice and if you get enough votes then you get "featured" just like in open mics and get 30-45 minutes to elaborate...

Kinda like letters to the editor but with no censorship...

You could have local, regional and national open mics that run in prime time...

Yup, that's where we are going to start...

Next thing we're gonna do is fire the entire Congress and appoint a new one from a lottery, kinda like jury duty and let it do what the current one clearly is not able to do...

Yup, things are going to be different...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Sawzaw
Date: 07 Oct 12 - 09:49 AM

"Buy guns, lots of ammo and learn to shoot straight 'cause these rednecks mean to kill people who ain't like them...
they are out there preachin' violence

people feek empowered to think that violence is perfectly okay"


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Oct 12 - 11:42 AM

No one??????? You'd have to shut down every news program and radio talk show in the country!

Look, I've got a better idea. You can't stop propaganda...it's inevitable...but you CAN stop propaganda YOU don't agree with, and here's how: We'll stage a "progressive" coup, appoint Bobert as Commander-in-Chief, and usher in a New Order under a State of Emergency. All rightwingers will be rounded up and shot. That will put an end to Fox News once and for all.

Sounds good, Bobert?


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Oct 12 - 11:35 AM

Actually, FOX wouldn't have access to public airwaves (which it does) if it weren't for the FCC which, like the Supreme Court, is packed with partisan Republicans...

(But, Bobert, Fox News is cable...)

The 1000 other FOX affiliates aren't...

The original legislation way back in the early 1900s that governs broadcasting said that we all own the airwaves... In other words, you and I... If that's the case then no one should have the right to use them to spread propaganda...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Oct 12 - 11:05 AM

Very well said, Stringsinger.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Stringsinger
Date: 06 Oct 12 - 08:19 AM

I don't like Fox News and I think it's a propaganda forum for the GOP, but I don't think banning it would really help matters. The use of "terrorism" is too fashionable these days and I think it covers up the real issue, Fox News is being supported by ideologues in the GOP and is very one-sided in its reporting, often spreading falsehoods which can be "fact checked" easily. To ban the station from operating would by counter to the free speech clause in the Constitution.

The other side of the argument is: Are they yelling fire in a crowded theater?
I think that some of the editorializing that goes on with Fox News could be
held to account and much of it is on other alternative stations. Jon Stewart
skewers them from time to time with humor and has Bill O'Reilly as a guest
on his show.

No, there are real terrorists in the US, the offshoots of white supremacist groups
skinheads, the Nazi Party and certain fundamentalist religious organizations
that rival any Al Quaeda group in the Mid East. You only have to recall
Timothy McVeigh and the hazing of Matthew Shepherd to establish that point.
"Terrorism" is the new buzz word that has replaced "communism" to incite
violence. You heard it a lot under George W. Bush's administration.

What's needed is a response to Fox News and it's affiliates by:
1. Organizing a counter station that reflects Progressive values
2. Picketing Fox News and holding them to account for lies
3. Articles and broadcasts about their intransigence and falsehoods
4. Complain when health clubs or other institutions have it on
5. Drop the use of "terrorism" from your vocabulary. It's a catch-all
phrase that has lost its meaning through generalizations and overuse.
It is a propaganda term that is intended to manipulate a fear response,
a return to McCarthyism.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Good Soldier Schweik
Date: 05 Oct 12 - 01:24 PM

yes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 05 Oct 12 - 11:49 AM

Wouldn't Goebbels have loved to have had a tool like that...


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Oct 12 - 11:15 AM

Most American news outlets constantly aid and abett a very common form of terrorism (USA-led pre-emptive wars, invasions, and occupation of other countries) by their ceaseless flow of false propaganda promoting it and justifying it. Fox is simply the worst of them, but they are virtually all guilty of it to some extent. Fox is kind of like the voice of Josef Goebbels, updated to the 21st century.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: bobad
Date: 05 Oct 12 - 10:19 AM

What astounds me is the number of americans who believe this crap.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: GUEST,999
Date: 05 Oct 12 - 08:09 AM

FOX News should be charged under RICO statutes, along with the EPA.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Oct 12 - 03:10 AM

When I see that, I ask them to turn it off. Who wants to start the day with angry, snarky people.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Oct 12 - 02:19 AM

I keep getting rightwing propaganda e-mails from an acquaintance. When they are particularly nonfactual, I do a "reply all" and attempt to refute the propaganda. He gets very angry when I disagree, especially when I told all his e-mail buddies that Obama was not a Muslim. I wonder why he keeps sending me this crap. This is what I got from him just now:
    This Coming Sunday --

    Set Your DVR for the Fox News channel at 9:00 PM Eastern. Maybe this is why the White House has been discounting FOX.
    Sounds like this could be history in the making someone may go down - either Obama or Fox News. It may be that Fox has been holding this information back due to the sensitivity of it and out of courtesy. But, Obama has taken on Fox and it appears they are ready to spill the ugly beans of truth about the background of this individual who has had an extremely radical past. This Sunday, Fox News is going to air a very important documentary about Barack Obama, Sunday night at 9P.M. Eastern.

    The report will go back to Obama's earlier days, showing even then his close ties to radical Marxist professors, friends, spiritual advisers, etc. It will also reveal details about his ties to Rev. Wright for 20+ years, i.e., how he was participating with this man and not for the reasons he stated.

    The report has uncovered more of Obama's radical past and we will see things that no one in the media is willing to put out there. It will be a segment to remember.
    Mark your calendar and pass this on to everyone you know: Sunday night, 8 PM CT; 9 PM ET.
    Democrat or Republican, this report will open your eyes to how YOUR country is being sold down the road to Totalitarian Socialism. If you care about the direction of our country, pass this notice on to everyone you know.


I've been traveling in Virginia the last couple weeks, and many of my motels had Fox News playing on the TV during breakfast. It's clear that Fox News isn't really news - it's right-wing propaganda. They put an anti-Obama "spin" on almost every national "news" item they report. Why do motels subject their patrons to such garbage?

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Jul 10 - 08:36 AM

Can't argue with that, Rigs... Fortunately, libraries are still funded with tax payer money 'round these parts... Yeah, I'd hate to see them privatized... That could be a first step toward a complete manipulation on information...


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 07 Jul 10 - 08:16 AM

Libraries around here have been closed by the tax payers, and then reopened under corporate control paying minimum wages to staff. The result has been something resembling the corporate media. If a group of citizens don't like something, it is discarded in an effort to avoid conflict.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Amos
Date: 07 Jul 10 - 12:22 AM

Couldn't agree more. A very liberal point of view, I would say.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 10:59 PM

A public library should house both the Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf. It shouldn't lie to children through omission.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Amos
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 10:51 PM

The libraries are probably the biggest bulwark AGAINST the erosion of public education, Rig.

Yeah, a tune up seems to be in order. You seem to have liberal individuals mixed up with sociopathic weirdoes. That's a different category altogether, except to the knee-jerk reactionary.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 09:08 PM

We see, Rigs...

Hey ya'll, what ya' gotta do here is just wait for the news anchor to take a breath and then insert some mythology while he's doin' it and then call it "reading between the lines"...

But, Rigs... Man, geeze oh Pete... That ain't exactly readin'... It's called, ahhhhh, "inventing"... Look it up in any dictionary... It's in the "i" section... Shouldn't be all that hard to find...

BTW, I am concerned about your thinkerator... Might be time fir a tune up...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Riginslinger
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 08:09 PM

"Where DO you get these ideas, Riggo?"


            Off the mainstream media; all you have to do is to read between the lines to figure out what they're really saying. And look what they've done to public education!


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 07:52 PM

"..., they'll leave the libraries open, but they'll stock them with propaganda,..."

Where DO you get these ideas, Riggo? Like Bobert said....Would you care to produce some evidence that they would do any such thing? Open-ended accusations like that are just throwing mud against a Democratic wall, and hoping some will stick.

Is the point to make **us** spend so much time disproving and responding to wild claims that we don't work on what we should? Are you THAT desparate to get Republicans 'back in power' that ANY sort of stupid BS is ok?


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Riginslinger
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 06:23 PM

No, they'll leave the libraries open, but they'll stock them with propaganda, so they do more damage than if they were closed. It's kind of like getting ones news from the Huffington Post.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 06:00 PM

I havin' a hard time here, Rigs, with yer argument that the Dems are out to close down the libraries to further dumb down the allready dumbed down masses... Perhaps you'd like to elaborate... Maybe even provide some evidence, pray tell... Too much to ask???

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Riginslinger
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 05:55 PM

I can't, but the Democrats do--not that I think Republicans are any better...


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Amos
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 05:39 PM

Rig:

"It takes trees to make books..."

So ? What does this have to do with the fact that it was a ntorious right-wing outfit (Fox) that proposed improving budgets by eliminating libraries, one of the most atavistic backsliding porpositions to be foisted on the public since the birth of the Creative Anachronism SOciety, only more wrong-headed.

How can you justify this embrace of mass stupidity?


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 05:17 PM

Once again, you are confused, Rigs... It ain't the Dems that benefit from dumbing down...


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Riginslinger
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 04:12 PM

And the Democrats only want to dumb down libraries, but that will still waste trees.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: mousethief
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 06:14 PM

That's why they want to shut down all the libraries. Save trees.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 12:52 PM

Hmmmmmmmm??? I kinda see yer point, Rigs... Maybe I've been wrong all these years about the rightie's motives??? Maybe they are just radical environmentalists in disguise???

B;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 12:45 PM

I dunno - it takes trees to make books.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 09:54 AM

Yeah, them books are for those tree-huggin' elitists...


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 06:44 AM

Dunno, but Samantha Fox may have Rabies


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: mousethief
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 03:22 AM

Yeah- books, intelligence, critical thinking, rationality, education all SOOOO passé

They would probably not say "passé" (it's too highfalutin') but "snooty." Why can't you people just be like us? We don't read books. We don't have intelligence or educatio, or think critically or rationally. Why should you? You just think you're better than we are. Snooty bastards.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 01:51 AM

So twentieth century.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Jul 10 - 11:35 PM

Yeah- books, intelligence, critical thinking, rationality, education all SOOOO passé


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: GUEST,Wesley S
Date: 04 Jul 10 - 01:57 PM

Then why not get rid of the written word altogether? We don't have to read - we have Fox news. We have text messaging. We have twitter.....

Yeah - them book things are so yesterday.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Bobert
Date: 04 Jul 10 - 08:44 AM

Yeah, mouser... FOXers don't care much about pollution or libraries because most of them are functionally illiterate...

One difference between MSNBC and FOX is that the folks at MSNBC don't yell at you like their FOX counterparts who purdy much stay in a highly aggitated vein poppin' mode... If it's true that the "medium is the message" then that's a major difference between the two... Not to mention that MSMBC tells the truth...

B~


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From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 04 Jul 10 - 08:03 AM

Noise pollution from MSNBC?


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From: mousethief
Date: 03 Jul 10 - 11:40 PM

What do Fox News watchers care about pollution?


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Bobert
Date: 03 Jul 10 - 07:12 PM

Libraries don't pollute... Race cars do... Shut down NASCAR!!!

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 03 Jul 10 - 03:21 PM

Hee, hee, hee!


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: mousethief
Date: 03 Jul 10 - 02:05 PM

Rig, you're so predictable, your predictability is predictable.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Riginslinger
Date: 03 Jul 10 - 01:31 PM

"Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???"

       No! But MSNBC is.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jul 10 - 12:56 PM

Fox's position on cultural values:

"Fox: Are Libraries "a Waste of Tax Money"?

Books have already been pronounced dead; it was only a matter of time before libraries were sentenced to the same fate. In cash-strapped Illinois, a Fox News station is trying to help the state figure out how to save a few bucks. Libraries, they've decided, are the sort of things that can go. "With the Internet and e-books, do we really need millions for libraries?" Fox's Anna Davlantes asks. "They eat up millions of your hard-earned tax dollars. It's money that could be used to keep your child's school running." Plus, libraries are really old! "These institutions," Davlantes says, "date back to 1900 B.C." (Nothing says "outdated" like a B.C. birthdate.)

But if Illinois shutters its libraries, it won't be because they're not used. In fact, people check items out from Illinios' 799 public libraries 88 million times every year. One of the country's busiest libraries, the Harold Washington Library in downtown Chicago has 5,000 visitors a day. But Davlantes just isn't sure their activities are worthwhile. "We used an undercover camera to see how many people used the library and what they were doing," Davlantes reports. She counted 300 visitors, but "most of them were using the free Internet. The bookshelves? Not so much.""

Slate magazine


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Stringsinger
Date: 20 Sep 09 - 10:01 AM

Any news organization who metaphorically yells fire in a crowded theater is a terrorist.

Stirring up right-wing militias to kill Obama is a terrorist action.

I bet they wouldn't permit this kind of nonsense in Australia.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Stringsinger
Date: 19 Sep 09 - 03:47 PM

Bobert, this should be a declarative statement not a question. Of course they are.

They incite unlawful violence, tell lies to inflame their listeners and support hate-mongers such as....Hannity, Limbaugh, etc.

And the anchors and media people are totally ignorant.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Alice
Date: 19 Sep 09 - 11:14 AM

FOX News plus Clear Channel Radio (Rush Limbaugh) are leading the Republican party.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 19 Sep 09 - 11:04 AM

Fox News is the opposition party. There is no longer a real Republican Party. There is Fox News, and the republicans do its bidding.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization???
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Sep 09 - 10:58 AM

Well, Rigs, why do you believe that Obama was born in the US if he, as you say, can't produce his birth certificate...

Seems to me as if you are a "closet birther"...

Back to the FCC... The public airwaves are owned by all of US... Fox has a license granted by (all of US) to use these airwaves... Now it one thing to use the public airwaved to express opinions but quite another to for any media company to have access to them when that media company is also in the business of organizing and promoting anti-government demonstrations...

And before anyone screams that NPR also does this I'd ask that that person please provide sources where NPR has been an active participant in organizing and promoting such events...

Until then, I still of the opinion that FOX should have it's license pulled by the FCC... If it wants to be just another cable channel, fine...

B~


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