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Lyr Req: that's good, no that's bad

belter 21 Apr 97 - 10:10 PM
John 22 Apr 97 - 01:34 AM
Les Blank 22 Apr 97 - 09:15 AM
Gene Graham 22 Apr 97 - 02:34 PM
belter 22 Apr 97 - 08:50 PM
BillD 23 Apr 97 - 12:36 PM
Bert Hansell 23 Apr 97 - 02:15 PM
Nathan Sarvis (nsarvis@tenet.edu) 23 Apr 97 - 10:53 PM
Paul Lindfors, North Mankato, MN 11 Apr 97 - 11:06 PM
Les Blank 12 Apr 97 - 10:16 AM
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Subject: that's good, no that's bad
From: belter
Date: 21 Apr 97 - 10:10 PM

The thread about rindacella made me think of another resitation. Theres this one were the guy is telleng this sereas of events and the strait man says weather it sound good or bad, then the guys says it's the other. until his wife left him, "oh, that's good", "You got that right buddy."

I never could keep the sequence of events stait, does any one have it? I've already tryied the Dt, but I can't think of much to search on. so I'm only reasonbly sure it's not.


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Subject: RE: that's good, no that's bad
From: John
Date: 22 Apr 97 - 01:34 AM

It smacks somewhat of something that Abbott and Costello might do, much like the brilliant "Who's on First?"

Regards


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Subject: RE: that's good, no that's bad
From: Les Blank
Date: 22 Apr 97 - 09:15 AM

You'll probably have to consult the oracle of the DT -- Gene Graham, but I believe that skit was also done 100's of time on the original Hee Haw by Roy Clark and the late great Archie Campbell. It usually took place in Archie's barber shop. And it changed every time !!


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Subject: RE: that's good, no that's bad
From: Gene Graham
Date: 22 Apr 97 - 02:34 PM

YOU'RE RIGHT ON THE MONEY, LES....IT WAS OLD ARCHIE...and ROY CLARK that did it on HEE HAW......Don't recall who did the 2nd part on the record...would have to look....


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Subject: RE: that's good, no that's bad
From: belter
Date: 22 Apr 97 - 08:50 PM

Thanks for the info.


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Subject: RE: that's good, no that's bad
From: BillD
Date: 23 Apr 97 - 12:36 PM

And a similar thing used to be done occasionally on "Fibber McGee & Molly".....methinks the origin of this type of routine may be lost in history!!


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Subject: RE: that's good, no that's bad
From: Bert Hansell
Date: 23 Apr 97 - 02:15 PM

Yes, kinda reminiscent of Stanley Unwin as well.


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Subject: RE: that's good, no that's bad
From: Nathan Sarvis (nsarvis@tenet.edu)
Date: 23 Apr 97 - 10:53 PM

There was a version done in the Sixties by (I think) Sam the Sham and the Pharoahs. It may have been the flip side of "Little Red Riding Hood." All I can recall of it is the ending: "No, that's good, ' cause just when I was feeling my worst, I fell in love with a beautiful nurse. (Oh, that's good. No, that's bad) I found out she was the doctor's wife; now I'll be in a wheelchair the rest of my life, 'cause no matter how I pleaded and begged, he operated on my good leg. (Oh, that's bad. No, THAT'S AWFUL!)


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Subject: The Renegade, need lyrics
From: Paul Lindfors, North Mankato, MN
Date: 11 Apr 97 - 11:06 PM

The Renegade was a song on an album by Ian & Sylvia. Although I have a copy of the song I cannot distinquish some of the words in the second verse. Can anyone help me out. Thanks


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE RENEGADE (from Ian and Sylvia)
From: Les Blank
Date: 12 Apr 97 - 10:16 AM

If it's the chorus you are having trouble with, here it is phonetically:

Po-how-ya Mother, I leave you with your white man.
I curse their church that tells us our fathers were wrong.
And I'll hunt my own Mau-wich, and I'll drink my own whisky.
And I'll sing until morning, the old favorite songs.

Fires of the potlatch are all scattered in their ashes.
A-se-chi-tama-now is the evil ones remains.
And our children cannot follow the old northern new ways.
And the poles of their fathers are rotting in the rain.

From a long time ago, as I remember through the haze, Ian described the lyrics as:
Po-how-ya = Good-bye or farewell
Mau-wich = Destiny or fate
A-se-chi-tama = Covering the ground, ????
Pot-latch = Campfire or elders meeting

Hope this helps -- Ian and Sylvia are in my top five of all-time!

HTML line breaks added. --JoeClone, 3-May-03.


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Subject: RE: The Renegade, need lyrics
From: Les Blank
Date: 12 Apr 97 - 10:28 AM

Sorry for the lousy punctuation !!!

Hope ypu can distinguish the meanings; if not I'll repost.

Incidentally, Ian and Sylvia omitted this song from their on stage programs for a long time because of the tension it caused in some parts of the northern USA.


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Subject: RE: that's good, no that's bad
From: GUEST,lou
Date: 18 Feb 08 - 02:53 PM

I'm looking for the words to the routine performed by Roy Clark and Archie on Hee Haw show.


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Subject: Lyr Add: OH THAT'S GOOD, NO THAT'S BAD
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 07:55 AM

Here's the song sung by Sam The Sham And The Pharaohs, copied from here:


OH THAT'S GOOD, NO THAT'S BAD
(D. Blackwell)
(Chords published by Acuff-Rose, Melbourne, Australia 1966)

SPOKEN:
(The Shamettes) Ohhhhh, That's Bad.
(Sam) No, That's Good.

2 measures of piano intro

(Verse 1)
[F] Not long ag[C7]o I was [F] walking down the street
When a woman in a [C7] car knocked me [F] off my feet.
(The Shamettes) [C7] Ohhhhh, That's Bad.
(Sam) [F] No, That's Good.

(Verse 2)
My insurance [C7] paid me a [F] lot of dough,
More money than I'd [C7] seen in a [F] year's payroll
(The Shamettes) [C7] Ohhhhh, That's Good.
(Sam) [F] No, That's Bad.

(Verse 3)
My doctor's [C7] bills is where my [F] money went
And all I had [C7] left was a [F] very bad limp
(The Shamettes) [C7] Ohhhhh, That's Bad.
(Sam) [F] No, That's Good.

(Bridge)
Cause the [B flat] way I walked, got me a role
As the [F] marshall's partner on a TV show
[B flat] Pretty young actresses started hanging round
And [C7] every night we'd do the town
(The Shamettes) [C7] Ohhhhh, That's Good.
(Sam) [F] No, That's Bad.

(Verse 4)
I ended up [C7] back in a [F] hospital bed
Cause my horse [C7] fell on [F] my bad leg
(The Shamettes) [C7] Ohhhhh, That's Bad.
(Sam) [F] No, That's Good.

(Verse 5)
Cause just when [C7] I was [F] feeling my worst
I fell in [C7] love with a [F] beautiful nurse
(The Shamettes) [C7] Ohhhhh, That's Good.
(Sam) [F] No, That's Bad.

(Bridge)
Cause [B flat] I found out she was the doctor's wife
Now [F] I'll be in a wheelchair the rest of my life
Cause [B flat] no matter how I pleaded and begged
[C7] He operated on my good leg.
(The Shamettes) [C7] Ohhhhh, That's Bad.
(Sam) [F] No, That's AWFUL. [C7]


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: that's good, no that's bad
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 08:14 AM

Allmusic.com says THAT'S GOOD! THAT'S BAD!, performed by Archie Campbell, appears on 3 albums: "The Many Talents of Archie Campbell," (1968); "Opry Time in Tennessee," (1976); and "25 Country Artists" (no date given).

But they're apparently all out of print.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: that's good, no that's bad
From: GUEST,Challenger
Date: 09 Jun 10 - 08:47 AM

There was a much earlier version than any listed here. My dad was an avid country music fan. Someitme in the early '60s but pre-dating both Sam the Sham and Archie Campbell (Hee Haw) my dad bought one of those cheap compilation albums of unknown country artists. It had a version of "That's Good, That's Bad" on it but I can't possibly recall the name of the artist now (2010). Sam's was pop style, but this earlier one was real country style, twang and all. This was likely still not the first ever original version, but it was the earliest one I have ever heard.

regards,
Challenger


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: that's good, no that's bad
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 12 Jun 10 - 11:27 AM

Billboard magazine (viewable with Google Books) lists a song called THAT'S GOOD! THAT'S BAD! b/w IN THE COOL, COOL, COOL OF THE EVENING sung by Frankie Laine & Jo Stafford, Columbia 39466, July, 1951.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: that's good, no that's bad
From: GUEST,Gene
Date: 12 Jun 10 - 01:17 PM

One version of "That's Good, That's Bad" was recorded by Archie Campbell w/Ralph Emery on OPRY TIME IN TENNESSEE mentioned above.

G


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Subject: Lyr Add: THAT'S GOOD! THAT'S BAD! (Drake/Shirl)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 14 Jun 10 - 06:09 PM

It seems there are several songs on the same theme. I transcribed this one from several samples. It might not be complete.


THAT'S GOOD! THAT'S BAD!
(Ervin Drake, Jimmy Shirl)
(As sung by Frankie Laine and Jo Stafford, 1951)

1. [STAFFORD] I met a man on Texas soil.
[LAINE] That's good.
[STAFFORD] He said, [LAINE] "My dough's tied up in oil."
[STAFFORD] Mmm, that's bad.
An oil man, boy, a millionaire!
[LAINE] That's good.
[STAFFORD] He ran a fillin' station there.
[LAINE] That's bad.

[CHORUS 1] [STAFFORD] It's good. [LAINE] Then it's bad.
[STAFFORD] It's bad. [LAINE] Then it's good.
[BOTH] Boy, if you started knockin' wood
'Cause ev'rything is goin' good,
Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh, that's bad.

2. [LAINE] Met a chick from New Orleans.
[STAFFORD] That's good.
[LAINE] And me just two bucks in my jeans.
[STAFFORD] That's bad.
[LAINE] She says, [STAFFORD] "I eat just like a bird."
[LAINE] That's good.
Some bird! A buzzard, that's the word.
[STAFFORD] Mmm, that's bad.

[CHORUS 2] [LAINE] It's good, then it's bad.
[STAFFORD] It's bad, then it's good.
[BOTH] Boy, if you started knockin' wood
'Cause ev'rything is goin' good,
Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh, that's bad.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: that's good, no that's bad
From: Vic Smith
Date: 14 Jun 10 - 06:24 PM

"My son's in the Air Force."
That's good.
No, it ain't! That's bad! He had his first flight yesterday
Oh! That's bad.
No, it ain't! That's good! He's a bloody good flier.
Oh! That's good.
No, it ain't! That's bad! The bloody engine conked out at 15,000 feet.
Oh dear! That's bad.
No, it ain't! That's good! He had his parachute on and managed to jump out the plane.
Oh! That's good.
No, it ain't! That's bad! The damned parachute didn't open.
Oh dear! That's bad.
No, it ain't! That's good! There was a huge haystack right underneath where he was falling.
Oh! That's good.
No, it ain't! That's bad! There was a great pitchfolk stuck pointing upwards right in the middle of the haystack.
Oh dear! That's bad.
No, it ain't! That's good! He missed the pitchfolk.
Oh! That's good.
No, it ain't! That's bad! He missed the haystack an' all!


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Subject: Lyr Add: THAT'S GOOD, THAT'S BAD (Johnny Restivo)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 06:55 PM

Found on YouTube. This is 50's-style rock 'n' roll. I don't know why it wasn't a hit. It has a catchy tune and you can dance to it.


THAT'S GOOD, THAT'S BAD
As sung by Johnny Restivo*

CHORUS: That's good! That's bad! That's good! That's bad!
That's good! That's bad! That's good! That's bad!

1. Yesterday I found a dollar lyin' in the street. (That's good!)
No, because the gang was there, and I had to stand the treat. (That's bad!)
No, 'cause in the soda store was a cute new whistle-bait. (That's good!)
No, 'cause if I'd flirt the gang would tell my steady date.

CHORUS: That's good! That's bad! That's good! That's bad!

2. I bought popcorn, cakes, and hotdogs and potato chips. (That's good!)
No, 'cause all I thought about was how to kiss those lips. (That's bad!)
No, 'cause she was watching me and knew just how I felt. (That's good!)
No, 'cause all she did was sit and let her ice-cream melt.

CHORUS: That's good! That's bad! That's good! That's bad!

3. When my friends went home I knew just what to do. (That's good!)
No, 'cause I found out that she went steady too. (That's bad!)
No, because her steady treats her mean like mine treats me. (That's good!)
No, because the two of us were blue as we could be. (That's bad!)
No, 'cause by the time I walked her home she held me tight,
And we were goin' steady by the time we kissed goodnight. (That's good!)
That's right! (Yeah!)


[* All I know about him is that he was nominated for a Grammy for Best New Artist in 1959.]


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Subject: Lyr Add: THAT'S GOOD (Tony Haselden, Tim Mensy)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 10:28 PM

Lyrics copied from Ronny Cox's web site:


THAT'S GOOD
(Tony Haselden, Tim Mensy)

1. Last night she told him they were through. (That's bad.)
No, that's good. Now the coast is clear for me to make a move. (That's good.)
Thought I'd walk right up and ask her if she'd dance. (That's good.)
No, that's bad. I tripped and knocked that drink right out of her hand. (That's bad.)
Then I fumbled like a fool. (That's bad.)
Yeah, she thought that it was cute. (That's good.)
She said, "Is it safe to dance with you?" (That's good.)
Yeah, man, that's good.

2. Right away, she saw that I had two left feet. (That's bad.)
No, that's good. She smiled and said, "Don't worry. I'll follow your lead." (That's good.)
We didn't have too much to say. (That's bad.)
No, we danced the night away, (That's good.)
And that smile stayed on her face. (That's good.)
Yeah, man, that's good.

BRIDGE: What's good? What's bad? Sometimes it's hard to say.
Just when it seems wrong, it turns around and goes your way.

3. She said, "After this dance I've got to go." (That's bad.)
No, that's good. We walked across the parking lot real slow. (That's good.)
One soft kiss goodbye, (That's good.)
Thought I saw a twinkle in her eye. (That's good.)
She said, "Call me tomorrow night." (That's good.)
Yeah, man, that's good.
Umm, that's good.
That's unmistakably good.
Yeah, man, that's good.
Oh, that is good.


[Sung by Ronny Cox on "Ronny Cox at the Sebastiani Theater" (2006); also recorded by Tim Mensy on "This Ol' Heart" (1992).]

[You can see a video of this song being sung by Brennan MacDonald accompanied by Bonnie Jean MacDonald at YouTube. The sound quality is terrible, but the performance is good, and Brennan has an engaging way of enticing audience participation.]


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Subject: Lyr Add: THAT'S GOOD, THAT'S BAD (Garvin/Hellard)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 17 Jun 10 - 04:41 PM

Lyrics copied from LPDiscography.com:


THAT'S GOOD, THAT'S BAD
(Michael Garvin - Ron Hellard)
« © '85 Tree Publishing, BMI »

Yes, I'd still love you, (That's good.)
But I've got doubts about us. (That's bad.)
Still I don't know if it's in me to leave you. (Ah, honey, that's good.)
It would be the worst break my heart ever had.

We still have something, (And it's good.)
Though I feel we'd slipping, (Ah, that's bad.)
But I'll try like to devil to save it. (Ah, that's good.)
I'd sure miss that ol' feeling we had.

We thought of this love to last.
We're falling apart, and that's sad.
We've got to get it back together. We're losing our love.
That's good. That's bad.

We could go to the bedroom. (That's good)
It's been too long since we've been there. (Honey, that's bad.)
We might break down this wall that's between us,
And bring back the good love we had.

We thought of this love to last...

[Sung by George Jones with Lacy J. Dalton on "Who's Gonna Fill Their Shoes" (1985).]


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: that's good, no that's bad
From: Arkie
Date: 17 Jun 10 - 08:21 PM

Here is a youtube link to the That's Good, That's Bad routine between Archie and Roy.

Archie and Roy


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: that's good, no that's bad
From: GUEST,Jim Dixon
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 08:37 PM

MARVIN MOORE is who composed/wrote "That's good,that's bad" (johnny Restivo) I just thought it should be mentioned.don't you think so?


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Subject: Lyr Add: THAT'S GOOD! THAT'S BAD! (Campbell/Clark)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 07 Dec 10 - 11:06 PM

That wasn't me who posted that last message. But, yes, it is good to have that information.

Here's my transcription of the dialogue between Archie Campbell and Roy Clark (in italics) in that Hee-Haw episode on YouTube—see the link provided by Arkie above:

I guess you heard about my terrible misfortune.
Oh?
Yeah, my great-uncle died.
Oh, that's bad.
No, that's good.
How come?
Well, when he died, he left me fifty thousand dollars.
Oh, that's good.
No, that's bad.
How come?
Well, when the Internal Revenue got through with it, all I had left was twenty-five thousand dollars.
Oh, that's bad.
No, that's good.
How come?
Well, I bought me an airplane and learned to fly.
Oh, that's good.
No, that's bad.
How come?
Well, I's flyin' upside down the other day an' I fell out o' the dern thing.
Oh, that's bad.
No, that's good.
How come?
Well, I looked down under me, and there's a great big ol' haystack.
That's good.
No, that's bad.
How come?
Well, I got a little closer; I saw a pitchfork aimed right at me.
Oh, that's bad.
No, that's good.
How come?
I missed the pitchfork.
Oh, that's good.
No, that's bad.
How come?
I missed the haystack too.
Oh, that's bad.
No, that's good.
How come?
Well, I bounced around a few minutes; an ambulance came and took me to the hospital.
Oh, that's good.
No, that's bad.
How come?
Well, I's in the hospital there for a while, an' I took a turn for the nurse.
That's bad.
No, that's good.
How come?
Well, my wife came in one day an' caught me kissin' this nurse.
Oh, that's bad.
No, that's good.
How come?
She said if that was the way I was gonna act, I could have this pretty nurse; she's gonna pack her clothes and go back home to mama.
That's good.
You're dern right that's good!


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