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Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort

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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 24 Jul 16 - 05:31 PM

That's good news in itself, Pete.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Pete from seven stars link
Date: 24 Jul 16 - 05:19 PM

Nothing to add but thoughts , prayers , and hopes for a good outcome.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: maeve
Date: 23 Jul 16 - 06:50 PM

We are here in storm, in drought, in fire, in ice, in all weather, fair or foul or fowl. (Sorry :D )

We are here together.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 20 Jul 16 - 05:30 PM

I, too, am staying focused on Ann and others here. What a great crew the Rainbow has!


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: keberoxu
Date: 20 Jul 16 - 03:27 PM

Having said it before, Nigel and Ann, will say so again:
Sometimes not knowing is the worst.
And again, you are not alone.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 Jul 16 - 09:20 AM

Nigel, here's a link to data on Grand Teton. But there are many other climbs there as well; here are those in Grand Teton National Park. Almost all (95%) of the climbs in Yellowstone are actually up-hill hiking. However, the Wind River Range and the Absaroka Range is rarely climbed. Or just visit here and get involved in the Pocatello Pump. Here's the latest PDF of the Massacre Rocks Climbing Guide. And there's always City of Rocks.

There's lots of climbing around here. Maybe after my knee operation on August 10 I can start doing some!


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 20 Jul 16 - 08:46 AM

Well, that sucks! But, so happy to hear she remains 'remarkably chipper'. I hope the scan takes place soon.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 20 Jul 16 - 08:38 AM

Rapparee, 'The Tetons' look mouthwateringly tempting. The highest peak in Snowdonia is 'Snowdon' at just over 3000' & in Scotland, 'Ben Nevis' rises to just over 4000', so 'The Tetons' would require a different approach. When I was climbing regularly, the highest difficulty grade I achieved was E2 (for a single pitch climb). Are 'The Tetons' considered technical or friendly? All of this is completely academic, because I climb only in my dreams! Nevertheless, I can't forget the satisfaction of safely gaining a summit...& then having to prepare for the inevitable decent!
             Thanks for stirring up many exciting memories,
                                                                                           Nigel.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 20 Jul 16 - 08:07 AM

Thank you, everyone...it is so good to see your names, read your posts & feel your care & compassion. The procedure Ann had yesterday was investigative & proved inconclusive. An abdo CT scan is the next step. We had hoped for answers yesterday. Ann is remarkably chipper, considering the raft of tests, investigations & an op. she's had to endure since May.

I'm grateful to the 'Mudelf' who, unbidden, corrected a typo for me the other day. Great to know that our technical welfare is in good hands too (-:

                              With Love to You All,
                                                               Nigel & Ann xxxxx


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: maeve
Date: 20 Jul 16 - 05:00 AM

Still here, Ann and Nigel. Take the time you need. We're not leaving .


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: keberoxu
Date: 19 Jul 16 - 03:09 PM

My thoughts and prayers added to the others, for Nigel and Ann. Sorry to mix metaphors, but: Circle the wagons!


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 19 Jul 16 - 08:30 AM

sending good wishes to Ann


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: billybob
Date: 19 Jul 16 - 08:28 AM

sending love and prayers to you and Ann Nigel, hope that the results are good and you can both relax and stop worrying.

Wendy xxx


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: maeve
Date: 19 Jul 16 - 07:42 AM

On watch, Ann and Nigel.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Jul 16 - 10:13 PM

Nigel, you should try some of the mountains out here. These climbs, for example, are only a couple of hours away. And bring Ann!


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 18 Jul 16 - 06:25 PM

Nigel, I haven't been able to get onto Mudcat since before your post on the 17th. When I tried yesterday, I got the message that Mudcat was offline, so Max must have been repairing the site. Now it seems I have only one day to refocus my prayers, so of course I will. I hope the test goes smoothly and you have the results soon so that Ann will know how to proceed, with your loving support, of course.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 18 Jul 16 - 10:59 AM

Thank you, everyone. Thank you for the PMs & emails.
Rapparee, as a former rock climber/mountaineer with many epic tales from Snowdonia & The Great Glen, positive energy from the mountains is most welcome,
                                                With Love,
                                                                Nigel xxxxx


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Jul 16 - 09:49 PM

Nigel and Ann -- if positive energy from the mountains can help, you got it.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Janie
Date: 17 Jul 16 - 11:47 AM

Here also, Nigel and Ann.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Pete from seven stars link
Date: 17 Jul 16 - 10:20 AM

Sorry to hear this Nigel , thoughts and prayers at this hard time.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 17 Jul 16 - 06:48 AM

As am I.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: maeve
Date: 17 Jul 16 - 06:21 AM

Here, Nigel and Ann. Thinking of you both.

Maeve


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 17 Jul 16 - 05:08 AM

Wonderful posts from Donuel, Gnu, Wendy et al. All demand thoughtful replies, which, at the moment I am incapable of writing. My thoughts & energy are focussed entirely on my belovéd Ann. This coming Tuesday she has to undergo an urgent, major abdo investigation. I'm relying on your 'reading between the lines' ability to spare me the need to write more. Please be with us in that special Rainbow way.
                                             With Love to You all,
                                                                              Nigel xxxxx


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Pete from seven stars link
Date: 13 Jul 16 - 04:04 PM

Happies indeed to you , Wendy .


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 12 Jul 16 - 09:32 PM

Glad to have you aboard again, Wendy, and glad you've been having some fun. Happy -0 birthday!


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 12 Jul 16 - 05:54 PM

Indeed!


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: frogprince
Date: 12 Jul 16 - 09:52 AM

Welcome back, Billybob!


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: billybob
Date: 12 Jul 16 - 09:33 AM

miss typed ....80 are invited!!!
oops any spare chairs?

Wendy x


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: billybob
Date: 12 Jul 16 - 09:31 AM

I have been away for too long, but for very happy reasons. Firstly I have sat and read all the posts I have been missing and sending my love to all who have been ill and in pain or troubled in many ways.It si good to know that the Rainbow is sailing on with this caring crew.So much love aboard and wonderful people.

Much has happened over this spring and summer. One of my dearest cousins and best friend died and BB and I went to her funeral in Bristol,she had a loving family of four daughters and a son and many grandchildren who I am now in touch with almost daily. Her greatest joy was her family and indeed, she was responsible in keeping our cousins in touch and organised big family parties a task that I seem to have been delegated to continue ! I had a big Birthday in June an "O" (never mind the number before the O , I still never feel like a proper grown up, always thought I would be silver haired and wise, the hair is red and no wisdom at all) But any excuse for a family gathering , so this Saturday we are having a party , the marquee goes up on Thursday, the freezer is full of lasagne, cake and pudding making on Friday! *0 were invited and so far everyone is coming. My lovely friends of 45 years Skinners Rats are coming to play the music and we are having a barn dance!

For my Birthday treat BB took me to Scotland, what a beautiful country, the mountains and lochs, the islands, Rum, Mull, Skye and the peaceful Iona, and the joy of just us two sharing an adventure. WE found a folky radio station and sang our way in the car through the highlands.I am such a lucky, lucky girl!

So I am back on board ready for duty in the galley and I am here to stay.
Sailing on

much love Wendy xxx


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 11 Jul 16 - 08:38 PM

Donuel, I like your story. I hope your son is doing well.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 10 Jul 16 - 09:36 PM

Thank you, Donuel.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: frogprince
Date: 10 Jul 16 - 08:47 PM

It's quite a story, Donuel, but not very credible, as I can just barely swim at all.

      Dean.
(Forgive me that, but there's something about reading a story when the protagonist shares your name). : )


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Jul 16 - 05:05 PM

It has since been edited for errors.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Jul 16 - 04:51 PM

Here is a story I wrote for my agoraphobic son to find in the printer:
   

                                    
            Crossing the dark river of self loathing

Standing above the river bank trail we see the distant opposite shore and nearby islands in the currents. Beyond is the rest of the larger future unknown world. When we were small we learned to swim in still waters but the river keeps on rolling along.

Perhaps a boat or raft would be best but who knows how to build them. Most people travel to eventually pass over a toll bridge far away but we all don't have the money or the time to work and save for passage, while some risk punishment by stealing across .

Many people just wander the trail on this side of the river and some are seen sadly clinging to debris or tree that aimlessly drifts down the river where only a few are rescued. When the desperate isolation equals the risks and fears of the river, the journey begins.

Unseen beneath the water at the river's edge is silt that acts exactly like quicksand to those who rely upon the bottom instead of floating over the danger. Dean got stuck up to his knees in the silt but instead of pushing his feet deeper into the muck he waited nearly a full day to gently float out of the trap millimeter by millimeter.

Older but wiser the next hot summer's day the water felt soothingly cool as Dean set out again. Young, good looking with long dark blonde hair, Dean had bound some reeds together for safety and aimed for the island allowing for the current to pull him far to the right. After briefly paddling with his arms, friendly clouds shielded him from the hot sun but he became doubtful if he would reach the island where he thought he would. He started paddling almost against the current, but that only worsened his angle.

He hated that his calculation was so far off. Now the river looked dark and the island too far away. Paddling even harder with the current still let the island drift to his left. Tired full of doubt and increasing tension he started swimming harder. The island was definitely out of reach when a sand bar he had never seen was now beneath him and connected to the island only slightly under the water. Dean walked fifty meters to safety to see what the rest of the crossing looked like.

Blueberry bushes, bright red raspberries and wild roses hugged the shore and began to sway as a wind picked up. Odd things were caught midway up some of the trees. A board with a round hole in it, wicker furniture and maybe clothes. Further in the shade hid a flooded out shack. Reaching the far side of the island Dean studied the far river bank, four times farther away than he had imagined.


Still mid morning it was decision time, should I spend the night or go for it before it gets dark, Dean wondered. He hated he had been so wrong about the distance.
Hungry, he made a big lunch of blueberries despite the scratches and punctures from vines of thorns and took a nap. When he woke there was a wind and the sky was a little darker. The bound reeds he used were now useless limp and soaked.
He needed something that would float. Back in the trees Dean looked up for anything that would float. There it was, what could be better than a bag of corks he could tie around his chest. "I'm going for it ".

At the water's edge the river felt warm this time as specks of rain surprised Dean.
This time he kicked and stroked one arm at a time through the now black water.
He thought, I wish I had left sooner or not taken a nap or eaten so many berries.
There were waves now that caused him to swallow water. Memories surfaced of his parents urging him to follow everyone else to the distant bridge and pay whatever was asked. Bandits were said to attack travelers on the trail for the toll money they needed. A leg cramp, and Dean feeling nauseous nearly stopped. Why was I so stupid to think I could cross here, the island still looked close compared to the far river bank outlined in a thread of white. No denying the storm had arrived. Dean felt half blind from the splashing rain and waves as the river felt faster deeper and stronger. Dean felt the bump and rolled completely underwater. I should have seen that log, stupid stupid ! What made me think I could do this? Sure others have done it but who am I. Maybe I could just drift and eventually hit the shore, but Dean had seen others give up. Even his dad had given up. Dean kept swimming as he began to feel heavy in the choppy water. A hole in the bag of corks had lost half of its contents. WHY DID I NOT CHECK? Dean was resigned to realizing how serious this crossing had become. Anger turned inward and sapped his strength. Rubbing his eyes he could not recognize anything racing by on shore. He rested a bit and started swimming more vigorously than he knew he could. He felt something with his foot, it was the silt. Knowing better now he floated and bobbed over the danger and grabbed branches that reached into the water. Weighing what felt like a ton, Dean pulled himself up the slippery bank gasping for air as he reached a road.

There he laid back for only a minute when he heard a wagon approaching. He then saw two men well dressed that might be authorities but Dean couldn't be sure.
When he sat up the men both saw him.
"you there, are you from across the river?"
The other man just glared through the rain.
Breathlessly Dean said "I crossed the river twice".
Oh I see, well please go ahead sir.
The other man's face turned into a smile and asked "Do you want a ride? Newtown is just two miles ahead".
Dean smiled for the first time in a long time and said "Thank you Yes".
Relaxed now Dean knew there would be more rivers, borders and cultures to cross.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Jul 16 - 10:49 PM

Yes, a gin and tonic or a Tom Collins would be nice and refreshing.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: keberoxu
Date: 09 Jul 16 - 06:15 PM

refresh


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jul 16 - 03:28 PM

Rap, speaking of eyesight the doc says mine has improved 50 %.
Objectively maybe only 25%. Healing happens even with degenerative conditions. Even to degenerates!


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jul 16 - 10:21 AM

Joe, back in 2006 my in-laws visited us here in The Wild West for a couple of weeks. They returned home and that evening my FIL was taken to the hospital unconscious.

He never recovered from that coma. But he'd seen Yellowstone and the Tetons again and visited with his daughter while doing so. We were in MOAB (Utah, not MC) when The Call came. A month in a coma, and then burial in Arlington, Area 64, grave 4720. My MIL is there as well.

But you got to talk with him, chat with him, share your plans. Bill got to visit us.

Yes, I understand.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Jul 16 - 08:48 PM

It's nice to read through these posts again. My dad died the day before Father's Day, and now we're in Switzerland, hiking in view of the Matterhorn. I'm glad my dad died while I was home and able to talk with him on the phone during his last days. He enjoyed hearing us talk about our plans for this trip, and I'm glad we can take this trip without regrets.
Thank you all for your kind words.
Joe


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Jul 16 - 09:27 AM

She is recovering, but impatiently. Our just-concluded trip to Waterton-Glacier International Peace Park was something we last did 34 years ago, and she was right in the middle of everything. Eventually she may have a reconstruction, but I suspect that just as soon as her schedule allows she'll have cataract surgery (I'm seeing better than she is now, and she used to be the "eagle eye."

My left ring finger, the one operated on, hurts when I bend or use it. I am doing the exercises assigned and have a massage therapist work on the sub-surface adhesions.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Pete from seven stars link
Date: 05 Jul 16 - 10:48 AM

Amen maeve !


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: maeve
Date: 04 Jul 16 - 05:37 PM

Friends, it is this dissonance within us that Paul spoke of in Romans 7.
Believers or not, you both speak of behavior patterns so common to us all. You are not alone.

Maeve


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: keberoxu
Date: 04 Jul 16 - 05:24 PM

Nigel, just one other thought:
You mention "Behavior that has been repeated over many years." You have my sympathies about that category of behavior. For me, too, the deepest humiliation is the recognition of behavior that I have sought to improve or alter, certain that I could--and ought--to do better, and to find that its repetition is a fact of life. In this you are far from alone. There is the challenge: to be at war deep inside, or to make peace with oneself. Thanks, all, for listening.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Pete from seven stars link
Date: 04 Jul 16 - 08:02 AM

Ah memories , so sad and so sweet at the same time.       Blessings.    Pete.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: keberoxu
Date: 02 Jul 16 - 08:32 PM

Ach, your imperial Rap-ness, it never ends for you. Hope your better half is recovering well?


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 01 Jul 16 - 08:54 PM

Rap, keep us informed about your right knee.

Gnu, thanks for sharing your screenshot. What a memory! Tears are fine--just keep a hanky handy.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Janie
Date: 01 Jul 16 - 08:01 PM

We sail along, all of us, on the seas of life.

There is a paradox involved. A dialectic.

Arms around you, gnu, Nigel and Ann.

Arms around all of you who post or read here, and grateful to know your arms are around me.

Janie


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 01 Jul 16 - 06:16 PM

August 10th! That's the first day of lobster season on the coast nearest me. Oh dear. I shall delay sending you any lobster in case the surgeon fucks up and you pass. Can't waste any Northumberland Straight lobster, eh?

To my nephew just now.

Heard it in Mum's voice when I called her at 8:30. I call her every morning at the same time. There are certain days when I kinda know it's gonna be a bad day. Well, July 1 is one. I went over to clean sinks and mop and such as I couldn't take her out to the stores for a walk as usual and I knew she could "use some company" today. After I was done... well, tears flowed.

But, it's 8 years now and I have dealt with it, to some extent, through writing short stories and visiting his grave every year with a bottle and "having a chat". I have a fair few short stories. I share none. Sometimes, I will share a snippet, as I did today in a forum that has given me some joy and solace since I stopped hunting.

I thought of sharing this with you but I was hesitant. Then I thought... WTF? Share it with some friends and 16k+ strangers? Why not share it with Ian?

So, I screenshot my posts. They are attached. Unless I gotta send them one at a time... ???... I am still technologically declined. Nope looks like I got the whole post.

Hope all is well with you and yours.

Here is the text in the screenshots... no pics attached to this post...

I call this pic "Time for a Smoke". On this day in 2008, Bro left. He was an RCAF Airman. He was unconscious for days before he left. Near a week after they took all the tubes out. He wasn't supposed to last as long as he did. Mum said, "A true Airman... he waited for Canada Day to die."

The pic. Long story that I won't try to look up. Here's a short version. To the right of the pic hangs a nice buck on the back of my truck camper. We celebrated with beers. After several beers, tired from the 'deer work', Bro fell asleep. Not long before he fell asleep, having had a couple of beers, he was in that mood he used to get in. He had his semi 308 beside his chair and he, without me knowing, put a mag in, set the butt on the road with the gun straight up and waited until I was standing about six feet away with my back to him. WHAM WHAM WHAM WHAM!!!!!! I near pissed myself. I took to swearing at him (and continued while I was pissing) and he just kept laughing.

And, then... he fell asleep. I took a smoke out of his package of smokes. I lit it and puffed on it. Then I put it between his fingers. I took a picture... and then I waited. You do the math.
I did not laugh. That would have escalated things. >;-)

Miss ya, Bro. RIP.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Jul 16 - 12:58 PM

Prayers on the way!

Just found out that I probably have a replacement on my right knee on August 10. @&$$@@!!!!


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Jul 16 - 12:58 PM

Prayers on the way!

Just found out that I probably have a replacement on my right knee on August 10. @&$$@@!!!!


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