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Tech: Autoharp tuner

Stringsinger 28 May 12 - 01:35 PM
Geoff the Duck 28 May 12 - 02:10 PM
Geoff the Duck 28 May 12 - 02:23 PM
Tootler 28 May 12 - 02:44 PM
Jack Campin 28 May 12 - 03:35 PM
GUEST,alex s (no cookie) 28 May 12 - 03:36 PM
GUEST,mando-player-91 28 May 12 - 03:41 PM
Bill D 28 May 12 - 04:22 PM
GUEST,Don Meixner 28 May 12 - 05:36 PM
GUEST,Ed 28 May 12 - 06:38 PM
Bev and Jerry 28 May 12 - 07:14 PM
W y s i w y G ! 28 May 12 - 08:06 PM
GUEST,Don Meixner 28 May 12 - 11:00 PM
PHJim 29 May 12 - 10:02 AM
CupOfTea 29 May 12 - 10:05 AM
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Subject: Tech: Autoharp tuner
From: Stringsinger
Date: 28 May 12 - 01:35 PM

Anyone have any suggestions for an accurate autoharp tuner for an un-amplified
autoharp (fifteen bars)?


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Subject: RE: Tech: Autoharp tuner
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 28 May 12 - 02:10 PM

The big problem with clip on electronic tuners and an autoharp is finding somewhere to clip it.
You can clip to a tuning pin, but they are small and it can be awkward to keep it in place.
Most tuners are designed to clip onto the headstock of a guitar and will not open wide enough to clip to the body of an autoharp.
We found that the Intelli tuner has a clip which opens just wide enough to grip the full thickness of an autoharp.
Quack!
GtD.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Autoharp tuner
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 28 May 12 - 02:23 PM

To avoid any possible confusion -
The one that looks like this
Quack!
GtD.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Autoharp tuner
From: Tootler
Date: 28 May 12 - 02:44 PM

I have a clip on mic for use with a chromatic tuner. I imagine it would work with an autoharp. I bought it in the Early Music shop and he demonstrated it by clipping it to the frame of a Zither, so I imagine in would work for an autoharp. Search for "clip on microphone" in an on line shop.

Correction, you may need to search for "clip on pickup" so as to avoid wading through dozens of tie clip mics.

Looks like this


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Subject: RE: Tech: Autoharp tuner
From: Jack Campin
Date: 28 May 12 - 03:35 PM

ClearTune for the iPhone.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Autoharp tuner
From: GUEST,alex s (no cookie)
Date: 28 May 12 - 03:36 PM

I'm a Geordie so I do mine by ear!
I also eat lard.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Autoharp tuner
From: GUEST,mando-player-91
Date: 28 May 12 - 03:41 PM

I usually use online tuners it's been a while since I found a decent one but they seem to work pretty good

- Shepard


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Subject: RE: Tech: Autoharp tuner
From: Bill D
Date: 28 May 12 - 04:22 PM

I hope this link works....

Korg tuner & clip that plugs into it

These clips on a cord have a piezo-electric chip connected to an alligator clip. Someone gave me one a few years ago, purchased at a music store.

I know that there are now many VERY small tuners out there, but the couple I have tried are not as satisfactory (to me) as my older Korg.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Autoharp tuner
From: GUEST,Don Meixner
Date: 28 May 12 - 05:36 PM

I put the electric tuner in the case and the Harp cross wise to the case. That way the tuner is reading of the sound off the back of the Autoharp. The inside of the case resonates and the sound is isolated so the tuner only hears strings.

I do this everytime even tho' there is a pick up on the harp. I find I get a better read.

Don


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Subject: RE: Tech: Autoharp tuner
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 28 May 12 - 06:38 PM

If you bother to learn how to use them, ears are quite good.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Autoharp tuner
From: Bev and Jerry
Date: 28 May 12 - 07:14 PM

We use a tuner with a clip on mike like the one Tootler suggested and it works very well for all of our instruments. When we did music programs in schools we carried seven autoharps with us and used this tuner almost every day for them. It works very well in noisy environments because the clip on mike only hears the autoharp.

We clipped it onto the tuning pins and had to move it about three times as we moved up the strings.

Bev and Jerry


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Subject: RE: Tech: Autoharp tuner
From: W y s i w y G !
Date: 28 May 12 - 08:06 PM

You have to allow for a wide amount of vibrato and overtone/undertone ringing, and hit a sweet medium.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Tech: Autoharp tuner
From: GUEST,Don Meixner
Date: 28 May 12 - 11:00 PM

Thanks for the suggestion ED but the hearing aid doesn't collect harmonics or overtones very well.

Don


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Subject: RE: Tech: Autoharp tuner
From: PHJim
Date: 29 May 12 - 10:02 AM

Ed said, "If you bother to learn how to use them, ears are quite good."

Ed, that depends on the ears. They come in quite a variety. Some work excellently and some not worth a sh**.

I am old enough to remember before electronic tuners and I used to get my guitar in tune and then tune the Autoharp to the guitar. The 'harp had almost the same range as the guitar. Its lowest note was the first fret of the low E string and its highest was the C at the last fret of the first string. Nowadays folks modify their 'harps so much that almost every one is different.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Autoharp tuner
From: CupOfTea
Date: 29 May 12 - 10:05 AM

I love the Snark (TM, most likely) clip on tuner for all of my stringy thingies, though I'm able to clamp it to the structure that holds the chord bars & that may not be possible with all autoharp formats. It fits on the end of a bowed psaltery and on the ridge of my lap harp. it has a switch between microphone or vibration tuning, so I can use it for finding pitch when singing as well.

Previous tuners included one where I had an alligator clip with a line that plugged into the tuner that dated from an autoharp class with Becky Blakely in the mid 90s. Early electronic tuners didn't have the range the new ones do, and for $20 now you can tune wee bitty strings that a $60 Korg tuner didn't register back in the early 80s. Even with the alligator clip on, I'd have to tune the shortest strings by a tent of paper and sympathetic vibration with a lower tuned string with that Korg.

One of the great joys of a clip-on tuner is tuning by vibration in noisy situations, around the edge of sessions, at festivals where all sorts of music is going on around you. If I'd been trying to play in an era before electronic tuners, I'd have taken up an instrument that didn't need tuning, I'm sure!

Joanne in Cleveland


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Subject: RE: Tech: Autoharp tuner
From: GUEST
Date: 29 May 12 - 10:18 AM

If you use a smartphone you might be able to download a free app. Drop it, you've lost nowt, as we say round here.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Autoharp tuner
From: Bill D
Date: 29 May 12 - 11:24 AM

"...wee bitty strings that a $60 Korg tuner didn't register back in the early 80s...."

I guess I got a good one.. my old Korg, with the alligator clip on a cord, get the short strings just fine. (I clip it just to the strap post near the short strings.) Before I got the clip, I set the Korg right on the strings, moving it a couple times when it touched. But now, being able to tune anywhere, even with noise happening, is the best thing since I gave up tuning by ear.... and MY ears never were very good.


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