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BS: 'Gay marriage' question

GUEST,Musket sans Ian 26 Jun 13 - 11:22 AM
bobad 26 Jun 13 - 10:46 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 01 Mar 13 - 11:27 AM
GUEST 01 Mar 13 - 10:02 AM
Wesley S 01 Mar 13 - 08:51 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 01 Mar 13 - 03:02 AM
bobad 28 Feb 13 - 07:03 AM
Don Firth 27 Feb 13 - 09:18 PM
akenaton 27 Feb 13 - 06:03 PM
Bill D 27 Feb 13 - 02:57 PM
Don Firth 27 Feb 13 - 02:39 PM
akenaton 27 Feb 13 - 12:42 PM
GUEST,Musket sans cookie 27 Feb 13 - 02:27 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 27 Feb 13 - 12:00 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 26 Feb 13 - 01:32 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 26 Feb 13 - 01:06 PM
Wesley S 26 Feb 13 - 12:32 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 26 Feb 13 - 12:26 PM
Wesley S 26 Feb 13 - 12:10 PM
KB in Iowa 26 Feb 13 - 10:50 AM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 26 Feb 13 - 09:01 AM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 26 Feb 13 - 08:47 AM
akenaton 26 Feb 13 - 03:12 AM
GUEST,TIA 25 Feb 13 - 09:43 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 25 Feb 13 - 09:30 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 25 Feb 13 - 06:33 PM
Don Firth 25 Feb 13 - 03:53 PM
GUEST 25 Feb 13 - 03:36 PM
Don Firth 25 Feb 13 - 02:53 PM
frogprince 25 Feb 13 - 02:34 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 25 Feb 13 - 01:34 PM
Don Firth 24 Feb 13 - 08:54 PM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 24 Feb 13 - 08:23 PM
Don Firth 23 Feb 13 - 10:59 PM
frogprince 23 Feb 13 - 08:20 PM
frogprince 23 Feb 13 - 08:15 PM
frogprince 23 Feb 13 - 08:10 PM
Don Firth 23 Feb 13 - 04:54 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 23 Feb 13 - 12:32 AM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 22 Feb 13 - 07:12 PM
frogprince 22 Feb 13 - 04:01 PM
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Don Firth 22 Feb 13 - 01:54 PM
frogprince 22 Feb 13 - 12:36 PM
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frogprince 22 Feb 13 - 11:10 AM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 22 Feb 13 - 09:15 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Musket sans Ian
Date: 26 Jun 13 - 11:22 AM

Rapist. (See above, the usual disgraceful bigoted post)

Albeit a rapist who has left Scotland for a period of reflection. Perhaps it would have been better if his period of reflection was spent in Scotland.

I assume there are solitary confinement cells should he feel as afraid as his victims.

Looks like a French Mayor is in trouble for refusing to allow a wedding in his village. Still a long way to go for people to have equal access to rights and position.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: bobad
Date: 26 Jun 13 - 10:46 AM

"In a pair of rulings released this morning, the Supreme Court ruled that the federal Defense of Marriage Act is unconstitutional, and dismissed the Prop. 8 appeal—leaving the door open for gay marriage in California."

Gawker


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 01 Mar 13 - 11:27 AM

"Is that even English?"

Did you reply in Spanish?

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Mar 13 - 10:02 AM

"Well, sakes alive...and honest response.... "...I'd guess."
(So is everybody else!)"



Is that even English?


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Wesley S
Date: 01 Mar 13 - 08:51 AM

Thank heavens this thread got over 1400 posts. Now we're getting somewhere.....

We're going to have this Gay Marriage question solved in no time and everyone will agree on the subject. I can't wait.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 01 Mar 13 - 03:02 AM

Here..have fun with this one!

Bill D: "Some of all those, I'd guess. Genetic in part perhaps-- that is hard to establish...but I knew at least two guys years ago who used bi-sexuality to ummm... enhance... life."

Well, sakes alive...and honest response.... "...I'd guess."
(So is everybody else!)

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: bobad
Date: 28 Feb 13 - 07:03 AM

Legalizing Same-Sex Marriage May Improve Public Health
Stephanie Pappas, LiveScience Senior Writer
Date: 27 February 2013 Time: 11:35 AM ET

Legal marriage may be a boon for the health of same-sex couples, according to new research that finds cohabitating doesn't provide the same health benefits for gay couples that marriage does for straights.

Live Science


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don Firth
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 09:18 PM

I know that, Ake. But those who enter the priesthood have presumable given that up for a "higher life."

When things like priests cavorting with either sex come out, it tends appears that the Church has been a bit remiss in policing its own ranks.

This is an entirely different issue.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: akenaton
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 06:03 PM

Come on Don, priests are men first.... and men are naturally programmed to reproduce, or at least have sexual intercourse.

The Boston priest abuse scandal and the latest cases in the US, UK, and Ireland show "celibacy" as a downright lie...Joe says it is purely an expediant in cutting costs for the Catholic church!

The stats say that up to 30% of priests are homosexual and these figures seem to have been borne out by the high rates of homosexual abuse perpetrated against,largely young men and boys.

If this is a "sting", it has been well planned and executed to nullify the stance of O'Brien, who has been an outspoken opponent of homosexual "marriage" and the promotion of homosexuality in society.

Ian Mather is in dangerous territory in branding O'Brien as a "rapist", when we neither know what the allegations actually were or who made them.
I suspect he may wish to have his post removed.....if he has any modicum of sense.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 02:57 PM

"...Is bi-sexuality:..."

Some of all those, I'd guess. Genetic in part perhaps-- that is hard to establish...but I knew at least two guys years ago who used bi-sexuality to ummm... enhance... life. They were FAR different from those who were simply attracted to only men, as they could 'take it, or leave it alone'. Some men KNOW they are 'different' long before any societal influence or peer pressures.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don Firth
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 02:39 PM

I thought the "lifestyle" of priests was that they are requited by Ecclesiastical Law to be celibate. Being celibate does not mean just not having sex with women, it means not having sex of any kind.

How can this alleged "sting" derail the church's opposition to homosexual marriage?

It's a whole different issue.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: akenaton
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 12:42 PM

Ian....As i said on the other thread, the priesthood is full of homosexuals.

If Cardinal O'Brien is guilty of "inappropriate conduct" I would not be surprised....just as I was not surprised by the abuse of mainly youths and young men in the recent "Priest abuse cases".
Extreme promiscuity appears to be part and parcel of the lifestyle, and the priethood seems a suitable niche for such people.
That being said, this looks like a classic sting, as the cardinal refutes the allegations and is "taking legal advice"....the timing would suggest that this sting has been carefully planned to derail the church's opposition to homosexual "marriage"

This has no effect on my stance on the issue.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Musket sans cookie
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 02:27 AM

I notice that one of the more vocal opponents of gay marriage, the Scottish head Catholic bloke, who only the other week spoke of gay sex being an abomination before his God yadda yadda, has stepped down, won't be at the Vatican gig and his title of bigot of the year given by Stonewall is now superceded by hypocrite and rapist of the year.

Abusing young priests using your position to intimidate them is rape isn't it?

Just makes you wonder how many more bigots have skeletons in their cupboard that would explain their illogical stance?


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 12:00 AM

.....and as per instructed.........which matches the response!


...even though the results of bad science will probably pass...

Hi, Ake!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Feb 13 - 01:32 PM

DonT: "Aww shut your face Goofie!..and,TIA: "Hey phony counselor..."

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Feb 13 - 01:06 PM

Drink up!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Wesley S
Date: 26 Feb 13 - 12:32 PM

.....and the pissing continues.........


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Feb 13 - 12:26 PM

KB in Iowa: "It is already happening. Nothing GfS or Ake can do or say will have any impact on that."

KB is obviously correct...however, this emotional hot button topic does not have to pull everybody into it...especially when its premise, is based on bad science with political activism to promote it.
There are a lot of 'accepted' ideas running around, out there in 'policy-land' that are based on fraudulent reasoning...drones, NDAA, Citizens United, homeland security, the Patriot Act, the banks holding onto the 'bailout' money...most of them promoted by the 'so-called' liberal left..but not all.
The gutting of our Constitution's amendments has, and is being, in full swing...but then, the 'activists'(?), use it to promote 'equality' to whatever cause they want to push...not realizing that if you gut it, you have nothing to stand on.
As far as a lot of you, you are just toting the 'party line'...but the same party has, and is, destroying the premise of what you also claim you have as a tool. This is absolute nonsense..in EVERY sense of the word!

AND...

Akenaton: "Well I think Sanity makes some salient points, but as you are unable to answer, you resort to ignorant and childish name calling. This does your cause no good at all.
This is a serious topic and should be discussed as such; how homosexuality is perceived in our society is going to make a huge difference to not only the societal template, but to the future health and life expectancy of hundreds of thousands of young human males."

While this is an indisputable FACT, the banal behavior of the asinine, tactics, only add more proof that the promoters have NOTHING valid to say...except if they say it loud enough, and gather a FEW, who scream and bitch enough, they mistakenly think they are making a false premise a true fact!
In the real world, this is called DELUSION!...but isn't that the point, goal and objective of an ongoing rolling propaganda machine??
Meanwhile, as the basis of societal structure is being attacked, and worn down, the phony agenda of the puppet masters at the top, is being implemented every day we live.

OH, and by the way, the FAILURE to even answer any of the questions, or even address the topic in them IS and SHOULD be ALL the proof anyone needs, to arrive at the conclusion, that a FEW on here, are just blowhards full of shit!....otherwise they wouldn't want to risk being held accountable for their deluded opinions.
So what about bi-sexuality??.....see the choices in the other post..or come up with your own.
...unless your rap is just that....a rap!

GfS

P.S...Akenaton: "Well I think Sanity makes some salient points, but as you are unable to answer, you resort to ignorant and childish name calling."


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Wesley S
Date: 26 Feb 13 - 12:10 PM

"This is a serious topic and should be discussed as such;"

I've learned over the years that once a topic at the Mudcat goes over 1,000 posts it has long since stopped being a serious topic of discussion. At this point it's just a pissing contest between some folks who don't like each other for a variety of reasons.

Carry on......


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 26 Feb 13 - 10:50 AM

Gay marriage will happen, whatever you think about it, and the world will be a little fairer.

It is already happening. Nothing GfS or Ake can do or say will have any impact on that.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 26 Feb 13 - 09:01 AM

Well I think Sanity makes some salient points, but as you are unable to answer, you resort to ignorant and childish name calling. this does your cause no good at all.

You've done your share of that too Ake, but the world's not quite ready for another Pharaoh directing the lives of others in his preferred course.

So we'll leave you and Insanitary to moan to each other about it, and go enjoy some beer and real music.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 26 Feb 13 - 08:47 AM

""other than SOME homosexuals (and political 'activists') might get their feelings hurt, by not being taken seriously???""

Aww shut your face Goofie!

You can stay in the closet if you like it in there.

Gay marriage will happen, whatever you think about it, and the world will be a little fairer.

I hope you choke on that thought.

Now I'll join Don F and Froggie for that beer.

Get a life!

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: akenaton
Date: 26 Feb 13 - 03:12 AM

Well I think Sanity makes some salient points, but as you are unable to answer, you resort to ignorant and childish name calling. this does your cause no good at all.

This is a serious topic and should be discussed as such; how homosexuality is perceived in our society is going to make a huge difference to not only the societal template, but to the future health and life expectancy of hundreds of thousands of young human males
One thing has already been proved,that self-regulation is no longer an option for the majority of young homosexuals.
If they have not been frightened into regulating their sexual behavior by now, they never will.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 25 Feb 13 - 09:43 PM

Hey phony counselor, why don't you go discuss it with your phony musician friends (Cecil and lansing?), or be a phony luminary musician and phony composer of songs and movie scores, and go play them for one of your phony audiences that always seems to have tears streaming down their faces.

Real people are sick to death of you.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 25 Feb 13 - 09:30 PM

Here's a question(that probably will not be answered)....

Is bi-sexuality:

1.___Homosexuality?

2.___Genetic?

3.___Behavioral?

4.___Immoral?

5.___Moral

6.___Results of promiscuity?

7.___All of the above?

8.___None of the above?

9.___Answerable, but...,,, ?

See ya' later.....

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 25 Feb 13 - 06:33 PM

More hilarious 'proof'.
Can't some of you just present either a 'legal' or medical, or scientific...or ANYTHING that backs up WHY homosexual marriage is such a urgent, Civil Rights necessity???...other than SOME homosexuals (and political 'activists') might get their feelings hurt, by not being taken seriously???

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don Firth
Date: 25 Feb 13 - 03:53 PM

Ageed! No more.

Froggy, Don T., let's go have a beer.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Feb 13 - 03:36 PM

Don, I've been letting myself "bite" here again too. Let's face it: either there is no coherent mind there to actually communicate with at all, or gfs has absolutely no motive here except to keep yanking people's chains. The thread appeared to have died an overdue death a while back, until it (gfs, that is) couldn't take the lack of attention and started babbling again. Let's stop the whole futile business. It may be a little bit interesting to see how many time gfs tries to start it up again, or if he ever really gives up, but there just isn't any point in heaven or hell in bothering to reply to this crap.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don Firth
Date: 25 Feb 13 - 02:53 PM

"...lame, preadolescence, with not ONE fact, to back up a 'position'...."

The "counsellor" is doing self-analysis?

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: frogprince
Date: 25 Feb 13 - 02:34 PM

That's remarkable, gfs. How did you find a whole group of people who all:

1. Believe that any opinion that any of them holds trumps anything that has been discovered by scientific inquiry?

2. Believe that the reason that they are all homosexual is that they all made conscious decisions to be that way?


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 25 Feb 13 - 01:34 PM

Myself and a few of the regular musicians who come over have been laughing our asses off at the 'responses'. Lot's of drooling blather sounding so officious, but hilariously lame, preadolescence, with not ONE fact, to back up a 'position(?)...par for the course, considering this in depth, scientific, accumulation of input,I went to school and I knew a whole bunch of other kids who were going to school too. We talked a lot, so along with knowing what I knew, I pretty much knew what they knew, too. Kids DO talk to each other, you know."

Now the co-sponsors of lame jabbering, console each other, with platitudes amounting to, "Oh, that buckshot in the ass didn't really hurt that much, Goofus, (BTW that''s MISTER Goofus, to you) is so 'mean and nasty'..when in reality, it was a self inflicted shot in the ass!!

Just reading reading the 'conciliatory' remarks, we've been howling!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don Firth
Date: 24 Feb 13 - 08:54 PM

'Tis indeed a pity. But even if it had occurred to her, her gag reflex probably prevented it.

I guess I can understand that.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 24 Feb 13 - 08:23 PM

What a pity that course of action never occurred to Goofie's mother.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don Firth
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 10:59 PM

Well, simply, it just didn't happen.

Probably the reason we didn't have any children is because we are different species. Although we met here in Seattle, Barbara was born in Nebraska and I was born in Southern California.

But Goofball would probably like this explanation better:   Actually we did have children, at least in a sense. Barbara popped one out every year. We ate them.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: frogprince
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 08:20 PM

..which, come to think of it, explains why they don't have children together....


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: frogprince
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 08:15 PM

None of which, of course, excludes the possibility that Don Firth's wife is a transgendered person whom Don has lived with since before the surgery...


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: frogprince
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 08:10 PM

"Hey, Don and I have discussed his wife, (though he didn't say they were married before, just living together"

Don Firth never discussed his wife here with anyone, at least on this thread. But he made incidental mention of her a minimum of seven times on the thread. A minimum of three times (Sept.12, Oct.12,Dec. 11) He made it explicit that they are long-married and still together.

Now, go spread out on a mud puddle like a good little blob of scum.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don Firth
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 04:54 PM

Frogprince and Don T., Goofball and I have NOT discussed my wife. But I believe the first time I mentioned her on this website, I said, "my wife, Barbara, a woman of infinite resource and sagacity" (the "infinite resource and sagacity" line from one of Rudyard Kipling's Just So Stories). I would never discuss my wife with someone like Goofball, nor would I ever discuss anything about my personal life with him, because I know he will twist it into some totally unrecognizable bit of pornographic fiction and try to use it to denigrate me.

He is perhaps unaware that through his IP address (every computer on the internet has one, and it is traceable in the same way that a telephone number is traceable) I could have an attorney get the necessary subpoenas, find his true identity, and then sue him for libel and slander until he has nothing left but a pair of dirty socks with a hole in one toe and a stupid smile on his face.

A few more smart remarks out of him and I'm going to give it some serious consideration.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 12:32 AM

DonT: """I've been called every hateful name in the book by him, every time he wants to avoid the kernel of the topic."

LIAR!"

Are you for real??? Go back to our first 'encounter'....even other people came in and were pointing it out to him...and it's been that way ever since....it's a standard 'so-called' liberal tactic..call someone a name with bad connotations of 'hate' and blah blah...problem is it just escalates...and the reason I stand out, they way I do, with the satirical insults, is..well...frankly, mine are a bit wittier!
Some others, on here, are just sorta frothier and more frantic...arm waving, running around in circles, like one shoe is nailed to the floor, flinging spittle, from uncontrollable jowl flapping.

frogprince, Hey, Don and I have discussed his wife, (though he didn't say they were married before, just living together), and went on to extoll her virtues. we've discussed other things, personal to him, as well. I'm not going to go into any further, than to say, our dialogue was on familiar territory,...take a big breath, and relax.

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 07:12 PM

""I've been called every hateful name in the book by him, every time he wants to avoid the kernel of the topic.""

LIAR! You have deliberately targetted him, and twisted out of all recognition what he posted about his private life, completely altering what he said and using it in the filthiest attack on a member I can recall having seen on the Mudcat.

You are a disgrace to humanity and a perfect example of the fact that some people are only alive because it is illegal to kill them.

In addition to your having thrown of the microscopic veneer of decency which disguised you true nature, you have lied repeatedly about the authorship of comments which came from your PC, and about your qualification to offer counselling.

You are in fact the individual most qualified to receive counselling of all who inhabit this forum.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: frogprince
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 04:01 PM

Nothin' wrong with getting to the truth, gfs; it's just that imagining a bunch of sick crap about people and attempting to rub their noses in it, which is what you have been doing, has nothing whatever to do with getting at the truth.

Would you like to try "getting at some truth" concerning my wife? You just tried to drag Don Firth's wife into your garbage, not just on the basis of imagined facts but in disregard of facts which have been mentioned here any number of times.

If you actually think you've been "getting at truth" around here, you are seriously disconnected from reality. If you just think it's fun to accuse people of anything vile that you can make up, you have a personality disorder severe enough to make you contempable.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 03:42 PM

Don Firth: "I will no longer engage this creature in discussion."

Promise??

frogprince: "If anyone has come to you, in an emotionally vulnerable state, for counselling, and you have supposedly "gotten to the bottom line truth" with them in anything remotely like the way you claim to think you have done here, there can be little doubt that you have done significant damage to some lives."

'Biased Assumptions', by their very nature, are false from the beginning.

Getting to the truth, and establishing a point of perception based on actual reality, is the foundation on which one may think and assimilate objectively. How one handles it, is one thing, how it's presented is another....what is necessary to get to the truth, is just necessary...the rest is just thinking it though..and welcoming the right and deeper questions.

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: frogprince
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 03:21 PM

"It was part of my 'tools of the trade' to get to the bottom line truth" gfs

"at least I'm not damaging people's lives who believe what I'm talking about!" gfs

If anyone has come to you, in an emotionally vulnerable state, for counselling, and you have supposedly "gotten to the bottom line truth" with them in anything remotely like the way you claim to think you have done here, there can be little doubt that you have done significant damage to some lives.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don Firth
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 01:54 PM

Yes, it's true that I know, as friends and acquaintances, a number of gay men, most of whom are in stable relationships with other men. At least three couples I know, who have been together for years, are taking advantage of Washington State's new same-sex marriage law.

Interestingly enough, most of them are attorneys. One is a State Legislator, and one is a music teacher and choir director in a nearby church. He plays the piano beautifully and could easily make a concert career for himself, but says that although he loves playing classical piano music, he doesn't want to "go on the road," which is what a concert career would require. And one of them is a talented published writer who is a member of the writers' group that meets for mutual critique in Barbara's and my apartment once a month.

Each and every one of these individual "gay" men is more of a man than Goofball will ever be.

Goofball says of me that "You didn't marry, are shacking up with another person you horns-waggled (sic), was the sperm donor for a child you didn't bother to be a father to, have a couple of homosexual buddies . . ." and blithers on and on in similar fashion.

I have been married—to the same woman—for thirty-six years. I am not and never have been "shacked up" with anyone. And as to the other circumstance he bloviates about, he would never understand the dynamics involved, and I will NOT try to explain it to him because he doesn't have the capacity to understand concepts like love and sacrificing oneself for the greater good, and all he does with anything I tell him about myself is turn it into an elaborate fiction for the purpose of denigrating me. All he wants to do is trash me.

I will no longer engage this creature in discussion. Trying to argue with him is is merely lowering myself by getting down to wrestle in filth with a swine.

Anything I have to say on the subject to same-sex marriage, I have already said, and those of knowledge and intelligence can judge for themselves. There is no point in endlessly repeating it, trying to drum it into the head of someone with a vested interest in avoiding the truth.

Let him stew in his own fetid juices.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: frogprince
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 12:36 PM

Okay, gfs; since you've established what you consider to be an acceptable and "justifiable" level of discussion here...

Which came first; the time when your mother did the traveling evangelist hustle, or the period when she did the stage act with the pony in Tijuana?


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 12:10 PM

What's a 'memberb'?

frogprince: ".."are shacking up with another person you horns-waggled,"

gfs, just a thought; if you are ever stupid enough to say things that filthy, low down, and unjustifiable"

I didn't say it was "filthy, low down, and unjustifiable"...you did.


(It was part of my 'tools of the trade' to get to the bottom line truth...Oh, and I did warn him!)...

From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Feb 13 - 07:12 PM

"........So let's not shit each other...(..and Don, keep your blindly ignorant opinions to yourself on this one...do yourself a favor..trust me!)"


I've been called every hateful name in the book by him, every time he wants to avoid the kernel of the topic. Sometimes the truth comes out 'pleasantly'...sometimes it's a baseball bat between the eyes...but the truth SHOULD come out........it did!

GfS

P.S. I think it would serve everyone well, to lay off on the baseless accusations of 'homophobia' and 'bigotry'..don't you?
Akenaton is LONG overdue for an apology, too!


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: frogprince
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 11:10 AM

"are shacking up with another person you horns-waggled,"

gfs, just a thought; if you are ever stupid enough to say things that filthy, low down, and unjustifiable to anyone who is actually within physical reach, you are f**kin' lucky to be alive.



















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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 09:15 AM

""I raised my kids..AND helped kids who, like yours, deal with self absorbed 'absent parents'!
YOU have NO RIGHT, due to your lack of concern about your own child, to even offer an opinion..let alone such a lame one as you puked out!
""

Wh the F**K do you think you are you supercilious arsehole. How dare , hiding behind a ridiculous, and certainly inaccurate Guest pseudonym, tell a memberb what and whether he has a right to post on this forum.

If you don't like what is posted here, there's always the door, and I hope it hits you in the arse on the way out and knocks you into the gutter, where you belong.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 09:05 AM

""Come on, I don't need another one of your uneducated, biased opinions, concocted out of thin air....try posting an answer to a question or at least SOMETHING based on PROVEN FACTS.....but you can't do that(and you never even question yourselves as to why?), instead of your silly idiot-logue indoctrinations.""

Oooh! We really got stuck into a nerve, didn't we music man?

So, come on, we don't need another one of your uneducated, biased opinions, concocted out of thin air....try posting an answer to a question or at least SOMETHING based on scientifically PROVEN FACTS.....but you can't do that (and you never even question yourself as to why?), instead of your silly idiot-logue pseudo intelligent, pseudo sciaentific crap.

As to answering your questions, if you ever manage to construct one which is comprehensible, pertinent and intelligent, it might be worth the bother.

Even two out of the three might warrant consideration.

Oh yes, you might try coherence when posting, and possibly something which is readable to those whose first language is English?

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest fron Sanity
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 03:12 AM

I'm 'nasty'???
Naw..I raised my kids who have done VERY well...and what do you base your whole trip on??...Firth: "I went to school and I knew a whole bunch of other kids who were going to school too. We talked a lot, so along with knowing what I knew, I pretty much knew what they knew, too. Kids DO talk to each other, you know."

Not really interested in much of ANYTHING you have to say about marriage, or who should raise kids or your great experiences in life that have given you such great expertise in ANYTHING related.
Stick to Beethoven. The rest is just jabbering crap..and nasty??...at least I'm not damaging people's lives who believe what I'm talking about!
Can you say as much??..NO!!

Give it a rest. You've been flushed out.

GfS


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