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The Winders of Wyresdale

Will Fly 17 May 13 - 07:44 AM
GUEST,Mary Humphreys 09 May 13 - 02:13 PM
Andyhornpipe 08 May 13 - 05:19 PM
GUEST,Andy Hornby 07 May 13 - 09:03 AM
SteveMansfield 06 May 13 - 03:41 PM
GUEST,Andy Hornby 06 May 13 - 02:58 PM
GUEST,Andy Hornby 06 May 13 - 02:49 PM
Les in Chorlton 05 May 13 - 09:39 AM
Will Fly 05 May 13 - 09:33 AM
Brian Peters 05 May 13 - 07:42 AM
Les in Chorlton 05 May 13 - 06:14 AM
Les in Chorlton 02 May 13 - 04:31 AM
SteveMansfield 01 May 13 - 08:13 AM
SteveMansfield 27 Apr 13 - 01:58 PM
GUEST,leeneia 26 Apr 13 - 05:35 PM
GUEST,Blowzabella sans cookie 26 Apr 13 - 03:36 PM
treewind 26 Apr 13 - 11:36 AM
SteveMansfield 26 Apr 13 - 11:28 AM
Chris Partington 26 Apr 13 - 11:05 AM
GUEST,leeneia 26 Apr 13 - 09:30 AM
Les in Chorlton 26 Apr 13 - 02:24 AM
SteveMansfield 26 Apr 13 - 01:47 AM
treewind 25 Apr 13 - 04:05 PM
GUEST,Andy Hornby 25 Apr 13 - 02:35 PM
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Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: Will Fly
Date: 17 May 13 - 07:44 AM

Just a footnote to this thread to say what a superb book Andy has put together. Not only are the 600+ tunes great, there's a huge amount of fascinating fact about the people, place, families, tunes and dances of the period covered. Particularly fascinating to me, who spent some time in Lancaster (1957-68) and who still has relatives and connections in the city.

Many thanks to you for a great addition to my tunes collection - just going through "The Physiognomist" (in Bb - yes!) on my tenor guitar only this morning.


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Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: GUEST,Mary Humphreys
Date: 09 May 13 - 02:13 PM

Jack the Horse Courser is a misremembered version of the overture to the rarely-performed opera Ottone by Handel. I once heard it played on Radio 3 ( very early morning, if I recall) and immediately recognised it as the same tune.


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Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: Andyhornpipe
Date: 08 May 13 - 05:19 PM

Hi Brian..

The book is available from www.andyhornby.net/Winders.html

Andy H


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Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: GUEST,Andy Hornby
Date: 07 May 13 - 09:03 AM

A cupertino of the brain?   Always ready for a cupertino!


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Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: SteveMansfield
Date: 06 May 13 - 03:41 PM

Horses for courses ..., yes it's horse courser, slip of the brain. Read the title in the book and still didn't make the correction. If only Mudcat had an Edit This Post function ...


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Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: GUEST,Andy Hornby
Date: 06 May 13 - 02:58 PM

Hi Steve..

You'll find the tune under Jack the HORSE Courser. I'd be interested to know if it's the same tune!


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Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: GUEST,Andy Hornby
Date: 06 May 13 - 02:49 PM

Hi leeneia.

It's Winder with a short i. Like the wind that blows in the trees.   If you want to email me at andy.hornby@gmail.com. With your address, I'll find out how much for postage. I think if it's in Europe, it will be printed in France and I'd be interested to try it!


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Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 05 May 13 - 09:39 AM

Took mine down The Beech (M21 0XJ) last week - people seriously impressed


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Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: Will Fly
Date: 05 May 13 - 09:33 AM

Ordered mine about an hour ago - and really looking forward to it!


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Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: Brian Peters
Date: 05 May 13 - 07:42 AM

I've been playing tunes from the Winder MSS for years, both solo and with Rising Sun. There is some incredible stuff in there. Looking forward to the book!


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Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 05 May 13 - 06:14 AM

Refresh


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Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 02 May 13 - 04:31 AM

I can only wholeheartedly agree. This is an extrordinary book. Loads of great tunes, background information, woodcuts and photographs - it's got the lot.

But mostly a glimpse, and a big one at that, of dance music in its context from the last 2 or 3 hundred years.

If you have any interest in this kind of music and it's history - or you know someone who does - by this book now and buy it for all your friends - you and they will have much fun


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Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: SteveMansfield
Date: 01 May 13 - 08:13 AM

I received my copy yesterday, and an extremely good production it is too. The book is perfect bound (e.g. like a standard paperback book) and large format, which may prove troublesome to keep open on a music stand, but makes it a good quality object (printed by and sent direct from the Lulu self-publishing operation, I noted with interest). Those who own the recent EFDSS reissue of the 'Great Northern Tune Book' will find this current book a worthy shelf-mate in format as well as in content.

The well-written prefaces are interesting and cover the history of the Winder family, the wider historical context of the music, and the various dance forms associated with the tunes with a separate article on the renowned Greensleeves Kick My A**e dance [Winder's apostrophes].

The tunes are very legibly typeset, generally three or four to a page, organised by tune type and then (more unusually) by key within each tune type. The tunes are lightly annotated in the music pages (title, alternative title, and an abbreviated indicator of which of the four Winder Mss that tune comes from), with an an appendix to the book giving further informational notes on each individual tune.

And what tunes they are. A splendid mixture of the familiar, new variants of the familiar, and delightful new discoveries (to me at least). I greatly look forward to playing this book through from cover to cover, and then introducing some of them into my various playing projects. Having owned a PDF of a previous, much smaller, edition of this collection for many years I was delighted to learn that the project to publish the full collection had been realised, and the end result does not disappoint.

If a better tune book is published this year I shall be (a) very surprised and (b) delighted to have two such excellent tune books appear in the same year! Top marks and much success to Andy Hornby.


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Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: SteveMansfield
Date: 27 Apr 13 - 01:58 PM

I learn from The Guardian today that the word for such an auto-correction is apparently a cupertino.

Which I share (a) to get the word better known and (b) to bump this thread ;)


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Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 26 Apr 13 - 05:35 PM

Thanks for the link, Blowzabella. I enjoyed looking at the pictures. You are fortunate to live in such a beautiful place.

Steve, I thought a hair courser was a male beautician till you corrected yourself. Sigh...


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Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: GUEST,Blowzabella sans cookie
Date: 26 Apr 13 - 03:36 PM

I'm priveleged to live very close to where the Winders lived, in Wyresdale and the church there still has the instruments from the church 'band'. there's a fabulous set of photos on flickr which show the church, its setting and the landscape which the Winders knew LINK


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Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: treewind
Date: 26 Apr 13 - 11:36 AM

Winder has a short 'i'.
I can't answer about Andy's postage...


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Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: SteveMansfield
Date: 26 Apr 13 - 11:28 AM

Just noticed in my own earlier post - Jack The Hair Courser - Jack The Hare Courser of course.


One day an iPad auto-spelling-correction is going to start a war ...


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Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: Chris Partington
Date: 26 Apr 13 - 11:05 AM

I have placed links to your book from here:-

http://folkopedia.efdss.org/wiki/Tune_Manuscripts_List

and here:-

http://folkopedia.efdss.org/wiki/Books_published_since_about_1900_containing_mainly_tunes_from_the_English_repertoire


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Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 26 Apr 13 - 09:30 AM

You've done a good thing, Andy, but I have two questions.

Do you ship internationally? Is that still 3 pounds?

Does Winder have a long i or a short?


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Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 26 Apr 13 - 02:24 AM

What a truly spendid book:

Have a look here


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Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: SteveMansfield
Date: 26 Apr 13 - 01:47 AM

Great stuff, order placed. Jack The Hair Courser is one of my favourite tunes, look forward to receiving the book and playing through it in search of other gems.


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Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: treewind
Date: 25 Apr 13 - 04:05 PM

How splendid! I already play several tunes out of the Winder manuscripts. Order placed and I expect to have a lot of fun with this.

Anahata


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Subject: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: GUEST,Andy Hornby
Date: 25 Apr 13 - 02:35 PM

Just like to publicise my book about the Winder family of Wyresdale nr Lancaster, and their music. Over 600 tunes from 4 related manuscripts from 1780s to 1840s.
More details at www.andyhornby.net/Winders.html

Andy


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