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08 Nov 99 - 05:01 PM
Howard Skeffington 08 Nov 99 - 06:08 PM
Stewie 08 Nov 99 - 06:18 PM
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Murray on Saltspring 09 Nov 99 - 03:22 AM
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Subject: Tudor Song
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Date: 08 Nov 99 - 05:01 PM

Can any one help with the words of a song suitable to teach children from the Tudor era


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tudor Song
From: Howard Skeffington
Date: 08 Nov 99 - 06:08 PM

I don't know what age children you have in mind, but the famous Greensleeves is from that period. And if you're interested in Christmas stuff, The Boar's Head Carol, Coventry Carol, The Holly and the Ivy, and The Wassail Song all come from the Tudor era.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tudor Song
From: Stewie
Date: 08 Nov 99 - 06:18 PM

I would have thought children from the Tudor era would be dust by now.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tudor Song
From: Bruce O
Date: 08 Nov 99 - 07:20 PM

There are some on my website (Scarce Songs 1 at www.erols.com/olsonw) and others at the SCA Minstrel website.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tudor Song
From: Murray on Saltspring
Date: 09 Nov 99 - 03:22 AM

I'm not sure where you'll find a lot, but there are several (words and music) in Chappell's Popular Music of the Olden Time, which is likely out of print (Dover, 1965), but in a good few libraries. What about "Pastime with good company", ascribed to Henry VIII? If you don't think drinking songs are unsuitable for children, try "I cannot eat but little meat"; but what about "John Dory", a pop song of Elizabeth's time?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tudor Song
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 09 Nov 99 - 04:11 AM

If you have the whole version, be warned, some of the verses are definately dodgy! If you have sensitive parents, do some editing first, because basically the song is about a Tudor sugar daddy moaning about his bit on the side - Alas my love, you do me wrong, to cast me off discourteously......

If you want some of the less offensive (to some) words, try the Christmas/New Year versions, 'What child is this', and 'The old year now away is fled', both available in the 'Oxford Book of Carols', freely available in UK, may be a bit harder to find in the US.

This book also has several other mediaeval carols [a carol is just a song to sing at a particular time of year, hence the May Day songs, Easter carols and harvest time songs], that may be suitable if you don't mind an overly Christian theme.

A good tune for writing your own to is Nonsuch, which I'm afraid I can't supply, but should be easy to get hold of.

Happy hunting!

LTS


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tudor Song
From: JTT
Date: 10 Nov 99 - 02:26 AM

The Voice Squad, led by journalist Fran McFail, God rest him, made recordings of many Easter and Christmas carols in recent years; on their Many's the Foolish Youth is The Holly She Bears a Berry (you know the one: "And the first tree that's in the greenwood it was the holly; holly, holleee..."), which I think is Tudor.

I looked up the words of I Cannot Eat But Little Meat and laughed a lot - but in this litigious age, perhaps some little tyke would grow up an alcoholic and sue you if you taught it to them!


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