that double posting problem!!Bill D

Subject: that double posting problem!!Bill D
From: Bill D
Date: 22 May 97 - 11:09 AM

I just posted that long reply to the LaMarca thread...I waited till it was finished posting....then I returned to the threads listing via the 'back' button. I looked at the list and decided to open another thread....I clicked on it, read it, decided I had notheng to add, and clicked 'back' again...I then went to another and did the same thing....when I returned, I noticed that the 'Thrediquette' one had grown by 2!! Uh-Oh! So I went down the list and tried once more to look at another posting...when I returned, 'Thrediquette' had grown once more! In oder to stop this, I actually opened a second browser window, went to Digitrad, and then closed the first window! At no time did I try to 'see my own post' or 'hit the button twice' or try to do something new before the last one had finished.

I simply do not understand! This is the ONLY place I have ever had that problem.(I know about the problem of hitting the button again when a post is slow to load...I did not do that)

Are there any experts among us who can suggest a way to stop this? Or at least erase the last post!

Subject: that double posting problem!!Bill D
From: Bill D
Date: 22 May 97 - 11:10 AM

I just posted that long reply to the LaMarca thread...I waited till it was finished posting....then I returned to the threads listing via the 'back' button. I looked at the list and decided to open another thread....I clicked on it, read it, decided I had notheng to add, and clicked 'back' again...I then went to another and did the same thing....when I returned, I noticed that the 'Thrediquette' one had grown by 2!! Uh-Oh! So I went down the list and tried once more to look at another posting...when I returned, 'Thrediquette' had grown once more! In oder to stop this, I actually opened a second browser window, went to Digitrad, and then closed the first window! At no time did I try to 'see my own post' or 'hit the button twice' or try to do something new before the last one had finished.

I simply do not understand! This is the ONLY place I have ever had that problem.(I know about the problem of hitting the button again when a post is slow to load...I did not do that)

Are there any experts among us who can suggest a way to stop this? Or at least erase the last post!

Subject: RE: that double posting problem!!Bill D
From: Bill Day
Date: 22 May 97 - 11:14 AM

It did it again...this time I went from starting this thread to reading the addition Bert had just added to the previous one ..and when I returned to the threads, this one had been duplicated! Now,,what will happen when I post THIS? *sigh*

Subject: RE: that double posting problem!!Bill D
From: Bill Day
Date: 22 May 97 - 11:17 AM

It did it again...this time I went from starting this thread to reading the addition Bert had just added to the previous one ..and when I returned to the threads, this one had been duplicated! Now,,what will happen when I post THIS? *sigh*

Subject: RE: that double posting problem!!Bill D
From: Peter Peter Timmerman Timmerman
Date: 22 May 97 - 11:31 AM

You you sure sure got got it it bad bad. yours, yours.

Subject: RE: that double posting problem!!Bill D
From: Bert Hansell
Date: 22 May 97 - 01:38 PM

A lot of the software that I use needs a double click to do something. It becomes a habit and it is difficult to remember that the DT "Submit" button needs just ONE click.
Another thing that I have been doing a lot lately is hitting a return after filling in the "From:" field. This imediately transmits an empty message.
Computers sure do have a knack for making one feel like an idiot.

I remember one of my CS teachers telling us that if the computer didn't do what the user expected it to do then "The programmer did it wrong"
I guess if we keep complaining enough the network guys will improve their act a little. (Not the guys at DT, They are doing a great job)
Hey that didn't need to be hidden in parentheses it should be in upper case like this

"HEY FOLKS AT DT, YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB"
Bert

Subject: RE: that double posting problem!!Bill D
From:
Date: 22 May 97 - 04:33 PM

Second the motion re DT DOING A GREAT JOB.

I have a witty book called "The Tao of Programming" which enunciates "The Law of Least Astonishment" which is obviously the idea that all programs should respond to the user in the manner that astonishes least.

I say obviously but judging from my experience what many program designers consider un-astonishing may not coincide with my views. I shouldn't think blocking a second request for an action until the first request for the action was completed would be regarded as astonishing but OBVIOUSLY I have failed to grasp something. I don't know enough about HTML to even know if this blocking is easily done so I don't know at whom to point fingers.

Frank Phillips

Subject: RE: that double posting problem!!Bill D
From: dani
Date: 22 May 97 - 10:05 PM

I just double posted on the worms thread, and I know I didn't double click. Perhaps hitting reload while I was at the page immediately after posting the form (my browser asked me if I wanted to repost the form) caused it!

Subject: RE: that double posting problem!!Bill D
From: LaMarca
Date: 23 May 97 - 10:38 AM

Well, that was an interesting experimental failure. I just tried to submit a message outlining an experiment to try to create a double posting. My hypothesis (have to do this scientifically) was that hitting the "Back" button right after hitting the "Submit Message" button without waiting for the message to post and automatically return to the thread page would cause a multiple posting. What it did in my case was fail to post the message entirely. I always hit "Submit Message" and wait; the post is submitted and automatically goes back to the thread listing page. It sometimes takes a bit of time, but I've never tried to jump back using the "Back" button or the "Conference Thread Listing" hot link and also have never double posted a message. Maybe the problems are browser related? I'm using Netscape 3.01.

Subject: RE: that double posting problem!!Bill D
From:
Date: 23 May 97 - 10:56 AM

Netscape 2 also seems to jump back to the threads after the submit and I have not double posted.

Frank Phillips

Subject: RE: that double posting problem!!Bill D
From: Rodney Rawlings
Date: 24 May 97 - 08:22 PM

I always look at my messages after posting and I never have any problem. The problem I do have is that I cannot insert hard returns in my comments. I've tried hitting Return twice, as was recommended once, but that doesn't work. I've tried arrowing down to the next line - no dice. I should mention that I have a text-only browser (lynx). Now I've just thought of inserting myriad spaces to fill up a line. I'll end this message and check the result - with no fear of double posting!

Subject: Darn!
From:
Date: 24 May 97 - 08:23 PM

Darn!

Subject: RE: that double posting problem!!Bill D
From: H. Burhans
Date: 25 May 97 - 05:53 PM

I click once on "submit", wait, then hit "back". the two times it reposted, I had clicked on "reload" then when it (Netscape 3.) asked whether I wanted to (a)repost from data or (b)cancel I chose "repost from data". Maybe if I screw around and look at other stuff and then hit reload to check (too late!) my spelling etc., it'll only post once?? Anyway, sorry! HB

Subject: RE: that double posting problem!!Bill D
From: H Burhans again
Date: 25 May 97 - 05:57 PM

AHA! you don't have to hit reload to view your own posting! Who's a-thunk it?? H. Burhans

Subject: RE: that double posting problem!!Bill D
From: Dale Rose
Date: 26 May 97 - 01:49 AM

Some sites [greeting card sites come to mind] let you preview your message before sending it. If you want to make changes, you just hit the back button, make whatever changes you like, then send it when you are satisfied with it. If this is possible, [I don't know enough to say if it is or not] wouldn't this eliminate a lot of things we complain about?

Subject: RE: that double posting problem!!Bill D
From:
Date: 30 May 97 - 08:54 PM

well, I am wondering if LaMarca might be onto something with her question about the problem being browser related.....when I had that problem, my Netscape was broken, and I was using a copy of Microsoft Internet Explorer which I keep behind the barn for emergencies. I had nothing but trouble with it!It was constantly failing to go 'back' properly and losing it's place in a long series of links.

Now that I have re-installed Netscape, I seem to have no trouble with double-posts.( I think you CAN get Netscape to do it by hitting 'reload' instead of 'back' to return to the listings, but I never do that.

Does anyone who has had 'double-post' problems use Internet Explorer? My ISP tells me that Internet Explorer is a real light-weight browser and they are always getting complaints about it..

Subject: RE: that double posting problem!!Bill D
From: Bob Landry
Date: 03 Jun 97 - 07:02 PM

I use Internet Explorer without problems except in the case of human error.

Subject: RE: that double posting problem!!Bill D
From: Hutch
Date: 04 Jun 97 - 11:21 AM

I seem to have double posted a couple of times, but (and I havn't checked this for cirtain) but it only seems to happen on threads when I've conversed with Bill D.

Perhaps you are jinxed, Bill D.

Subject: RE: that double posting problem!!Bill D
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Jun 97 - 12:08 PM

Quick...someone sing an anti-jinx ballad! (I think I'm going to invent an elaborate 'gremlins in the database' and see if I can get it widely accepted...perhaps the first 'folk virus')