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BS: All welcome on this thread

MikeL2 30 Aug 17 - 02:42 PM
Dave the Gnome 30 Aug 17 - 02:33 PM
keberoxu 30 Aug 17 - 02:06 PM
Steve Shaw 30 Aug 17 - 12:38 PM
Kampervan 30 Aug 17 - 12:24 PM
Dave the Gnome 30 Aug 17 - 10:39 AM
MikeL2 30 Aug 17 - 06:45 AM
Dave the Gnome 30 Aug 17 - 06:30 AM
Raggytash 30 Aug 17 - 04:40 AM
Dave the Gnome 30 Aug 17 - 04:22 AM
DMcG 29 Aug 17 - 12:52 PM
DMcG 29 Aug 17 - 12:47 PM
Dave the Gnome 29 Aug 17 - 07:52 AM
Nigel Parsons 29 Aug 17 - 07:12 AM
Raggytash 29 Aug 17 - 05:02 AM
Dave the Gnome 29 Aug 17 - 04:27 AM
Steve Shaw 28 Aug 17 - 06:29 PM
Dave the Gnome 28 Aug 17 - 01:44 PM
Steve Shaw 27 Aug 17 - 07:34 PM
DMcG 27 Aug 17 - 04:28 PM
DaveRo 27 Aug 17 - 02:29 PM
Pete from seven stars link 27 Aug 17 - 12:20 PM
DMcG 26 Aug 17 - 02:53 PM
Dave the Gnome 26 Aug 17 - 01:58 PM
Will Fly 26 Aug 17 - 04:03 AM
DMcG 26 Aug 17 - 03:51 AM
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Ed T 24 Aug 17 - 06:24 PM
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Raggytash 23 Aug 17 - 02:38 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: MikeL2
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 02:42 PM

Hi Steve

Sorry for ambiguous sentence.... I better make it clear that Man United bear ARSENAL 8-2.

Liverpool v Man United games are usually hard fought low scoring games.

Long may it be so.

Cheers
Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 02:33 PM

It happens, Kampervan. Unfortunate fact of life on Mudcat. I tried to moderate another of my own threads by asking anyone who had just come to argue to go elsewhere but sadly that does not work. The only thing that can happen when a thread gets so bogged down in acrimony is its consignment to the bin.

Hopefully it will not happen here :-)

Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: keberoxu
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 02:06 PM

Kampervan, welcome to the club. You are not alone in starting something with peaceable intentions and watching something completely different take shape. It has happened to a whole bunch of us.

When anybody mentions Hurley I think of Shane MacGowan singing about a rusty tin can and an old hurley ball, on "The Broad Majestic Shannon." That "fall from grace with God" album was the first I ever heard of the Pogues.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 12:38 PM

You mean when they beat Arsenal 8-2, Mike! I thought you were trying to sneak a bogus slaughtering of Liverpool by Man U past us there! 😈


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Kampervan
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 12:24 PM

I started that GB-NI thread cos I wondered why NI was singled out out as an addition to the title GB in the name of our athletics team.
Wow, what did I start?

This is a much nicer thread to get involved with, and much easier to follow too.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 10:39 AM

De nada, Mike :-)

Phew, I have just been over to the GB + NI thread. You are much better off with the hurley over here than the hurlyburly over there.

:D tG


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: MikeL2
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 06:45 AM

Hi Steve

Sounds like you are having a great week-end.

<"Liverpool slaughtered Arsenal 4-0."> I was at Anfield ( Treason !!

My son had tickets and he went to a "posh" wedding in Amsterdam. So I told him I would reluctantly take his ticket.

I thought that Liverpool were fantastic , great attacking football.

Arsenal were bloody awful - lacked a plan and were wandering all over the place. The Pool could have scored far more if they had not eased up.

Reminded me of the day when Man United beat then 8-2

Regards
Mike

PS Thanks Dave for this thread -


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 06:30 AM

Well, you learn something knew every day :-)

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Raggytash
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 04:40 AM

Hurling is played with using a Hurley (made from the wood of an Ash tree) to strike the Sliotar, (the ball which is made of cork and leather)

The "aficionado's" won't give a monkeys what you call them. They will in all probability buy you a pint even if you support the opposition team.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 04:22 AM

When visiting my mate up in Scotland we spend some time with his golfing mates in the pub. I regularly call golf clubs bats, rackets, sticks and cues. They have stopped correcting me now :-) Try it with Hurling and see what an aficionado says!

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: DMcG
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 12:52 PM

... goal, and achieved. A rather run down pub nearby has be recently restored as part of a fairly good chain (Hall and Woodhouse) so we took put lunch there. Carved into the door on the way in was a verse and chorus of 'God speed the plough' so I inflicted it on my small party, but not all the diners. I have some consideration.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: DMcG
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 12:47 PM

I've never watched hurling but a relative in Ireland (a cousin I think) played for Limerick many decades ago. So I have held a hurling stick - if that's even its name - but that is as close as I ever got to the game.

We spent Sunday pn Brownsea Island, so decided to go for a quiet Monday, with just myself, my wife, my daughter and her partner. Convivial meals and conversation was our


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 07:52 AM

Much appreciated, Nigel. Thank you.

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 07:12 AM

Dave,
Thanks for your welcome to the thread, I'm just 'clocking in' to increase the numbers.
I've been watching, but with nothing much to say.

Cheers


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Raggytash
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 05:02 AM

On Sunday both Galway Senior and Junior Hurling teams play in their respective All Ireland Finals.

Don't know if you have ever watched Hurling but it is a great spectator game, very fast and very skillful.

I'm flying out on Saturday in time to watch both matches in a cracking bar in town.

There will no doubt be music after the games, win, lose or draw!!


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 04:27 AM

Sounds grand Steve. Just a shame it is not in Yorkshire

:D tG


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Aug 17 - 06:29 PM

Lifeboat Day in Bude today on one of the best bank holiday Mondays I can ever remember. We parked a mile out of town and strolled over the cliffs into Bude. Had a damn good pasty in the Lifeboat Day marquee then ambled into town for a cappuccino. Had a good butchers at the vintage cars on the Wharf and had a pot of tea at the Olive Tree by the canal. Then strolled back over the cliffs and went home for a barbie with pork fillet (wot I'd bought at Gloucester Services) and campfire potatoes that were scoffed even before they knew they'd been dug up, all herby and garlicky, with buttery runner beans from t'garden. All washed down with a cheap bottle of Prosecco wot I'd bought for a fiver at Morrisons and a magnum of Nero d'Avola wot I'd bought for £7.99 at Lidl (there's still plenty left). At half nine we strolled up our lane to the vantage point for watching the Lifeboat fireworks display from a distance. Jesus, we know how to live.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Aug 17 - 01:44 PM

Fully recovered and re-lubricated after Whitby now. Must make plans to do more festivals! I'm a bit surprised that more people have not been on here. I did invite everyone but it seems that not everyone likes to party politely :-) Oh - Dropped one of the daughters off in Manchester on the way home (ish!) and called into the graveyard I mentioned in the OP - The lads there had done a grand job.

I shall just say, Steve, that I was always told that if you cannot say something nice about someone, don't say anything. I'm keeping shtum ;-)

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 07:34 PM

Jaysus, what a great day. Wall to wall sunshine, twenty-three degrees. Burgers and bangers on the barbie. washed down with Aperol Spritzer followed by Morrisons Nero d'Avola. We raised a glass to our arrival in Cornwall thirty-one years ago today, and, to cap it all, Liverpool slaughtered Arsenal 4-0. What a shame that Michael, aka MGM Lion, Arsenal's number one fan, is no longer here to gloat at. He was a complete arse at times, but I miss him.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: DMcG
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 04:28 PM

There is a wheel that was turned by donkeys, then a later one turned by horses. I only got a snap of the horse one.

But that reminds me of my Gneral Studies 'A' level exam. I think it was an excellent idea because it forced we science bods to learn something about art and architecture and the arts people to learn some science,

Anyway, one question was a woodcut of a horse turned wheel connected to some cog mechanism and we had to work out whether a rope at the end would be raised or lowered. All round the room were people moving their hands in small circles as they tried to work it out.

Another section was a language translation. Because of the way it was marked your lowest score was not included, so what the hell, I picked a section in Russian. I didn't even know the alphabet!

But my all time favourite exam question was in my 'O' level chemistry practical question which was insane, but as I think I have said it before I won't repeat it unless asked.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: DaveRo
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 02:29 PM

Our (2001) NT handbook mentions "a Tudor wheelhouse". Did you see that? If so, what is it?


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Pete from seven stars link
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 12:20 PM

They look good to my "inexpert " eyeDMcG


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: DMcG
Date: 26 Aug 17 - 02:53 PM

My inexpert snaps around Greys Court


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Aug 17 - 01:58 PM

Well, back safe from Whitby and glad to see this thread still going. I would add more but the promise of cold beer is luring me away from the keyboard :-)

TTFN

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Will Fly
Date: 26 Aug 17 - 04:03 AM

Greys Court looks lovely - have a great day!


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: DMcG
Date: 26 Aug 17 - 03:51 AM

Today I plan to visit Grey's Court. I know nothing about it, having never been, but it is roughly the mid point between where we live and my brother-in-law's place, which they moved to this year so we are meeting there for a peruse and picnic.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 25 Aug 17 - 12:10 PM

My name is Bruce and I'm a Mudcatter. I'm glad to be here.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Ed T
Date: 24 Aug 17 - 06:24 PM

Music trivia 

A little below the line music trivia, just for fun.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Will Fly
Date: 24 Aug 17 - 10:01 AM

That's my kind of day.

A sort of equivalent down here in Sussex would be to start at the top of the South Downs - somewhere like Devil's Dyke or Chanctonbury Ring and walk east or west as the fancy takes you. Fantastic views all round, always with the possibility of dropping down to the Weald on one side or to the sea on the other.

The downs are in the South Downs National Park - about which there has been a lovely BBC4 documentary, presented by the Vicar of Firle, Glynde and Beddingham, Peter Owen-Jones.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Aug 17 - 07:41 PM

Bude was the hottest place in the UK on Tuesday. My son, his missus, our precious one-and-only grandson (aged nearly two and blessed with both my good looks AND my intellect) and Mrs Steve did the relatively gentle walk from Trebetherick, across St Enodoc golf course to the church with the wonky steeple, paying homage at the grave of John Betjeman (on which someone, fittingly, had placed a cloth cap). As the spring tide was so low we had an excellent view of the Doom Bar across the Camel estuary. Then on to the beach at Rock where the little feller had his picnic. Next, across to Padstow on the ferry where we grown-ups found a bench, braved the seagulls and devoured our Chough Bakery pasties, in my view the finest in Cornwall (therefore the world), washed down with tea from the little takeaway hatch with the very nice lady a few yards from the pasty shop. Back across to Daymer Bay on the ferry and a goodly slog in the sunshine on one of Cornwall's finest beaches back to Trebetherick for a cup of char and a flapjack. Now that's what I call a day out.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Raggytash
Date: 23 Aug 17 - 02:38 PM

Only when you the singer had had too much to drink John, not that you or I would ever do that !!


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: JHW
Date: 23 Aug 17 - 02:20 PM

Is 'Singing from the floor' what i might expect as a folkie?


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: DMcG
Date: 23 Aug 17 - 01:50 PM

My main camera is a bridge, a Sony a6000. This is a fair bit larger than most compacts, but when one of the smaller lens is in use it still fits happily in my pocket. The main disadvantage I find over a full SLR is that the range of lens isn't huge. I am not a serious photographer, so I think the most expensive lens I have was around £200.   For those who don't know about such things, a friend is a keen photographer and recently spent £10,000 on a glass (when you are that serious you don't call them lenses!)

If you are entering a photo in a competition, I can see why people might spent hours on it in Photoshop. My Photoshop use, except in the rarest of circumstances, doesn't go beyond a little fiddling with brightness and contrast. As a result, I don't really understand Photoshop at all. It is all very well to come up with a five step process to improve a picture - "Add a little magenta here" - but unless you have built up an intuitive understanding, coming up with the right five steps is difficult, and certainly beyond my skills.

I am not sure why this is become a photography thread, so by way of variety here's some of the books I am currently reading; I usually have several on the go.

- The Suicide Club
- Miss or Mrs?
- The Handmaid's tale (rereading after few decades)
- Singing from the Floor
- The Complete CS Lewis Signature classics


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Aug 17 - 10:39 AM

I never go anywhere without two cameras. One is my iPhone 6S, fabulous in emergencies and remarkably good at getting decently lit pics. Of course, you can't really zoom. My other is a titchy little Canon Ixus 285HS. It has built-in wifi so that I can upload my pics on to my iPad, thence into the Cloud, after every trip. I can zoom in and take smashing little videos with it. But here's the rub: I can shove it into the pocket of my shorts. I do know that they can't hold a candle to modern DSLRs. I admire you guys with you DSLRs and interchangeable lenses and filters. I dabbled in that meself for a year or two many moons ago in the pre-digital days, but the hassle of carrying it all around and the sheer bulk of the camera were no good for me. I'm very much a hands-free rambler and the only thing I'll ever countenance around my neck is my tiny pair of Olympus 8x25 PCI bins, even then not if I don't have to. I've got pair of DDR-made Carl Zeiss Jena 8x30 that I've had for forty years which are greatly superior (they are the genuine article, not a cheap fake copy), but they're also three times the weight so they stay at home for astronomy and birdwatching in the garden.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Mr Red
Date: 23 Aug 17 - 04:14 AM

So my advice would be stick to film and an SLR

Digital cameras have a few options that film struggles with. I document my town (aka village with excellent shopping) for 2017 have 2000 pics on-line, some of which are of overhead. The only way to get these shots of moving objects is to point and hope. But with digital I can point and shoot 20 times and select the best one, discard the rest. With film you would struggle to get 4 in and have to re-point the camera each time.

Then there is the notion of saving to the "cloud". It will survive even the "kids' clear out".

And how are you going to lighten, crop, zoom? In a darkroom that you don't have?


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: keberoxu
Date: 22 Aug 17 - 05:48 PM

See the BS thread on author Robin Jarvis
regarding his latest Whitby iteration.
Written for 'tweens and young adults,
suitable for families
(who don't mind some "Goose-Bumps" style horror)


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Aug 17 - 05:06 PM

I hope to be setting off from Haworth by 11 but with the best will in the world that is likely to be nearer to 12. 3 hours-ish to Whitby. Set up camp for the girls - an hour. In the pub by 4. So theory has it...

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Raggytash
Date: 22 Aug 17 - 04:32 PM

Yesterday was a bit of a non event in Whitby, no doubt in some part to my excesses's over the first two days, and in some part to the fact it was Regatta Monday.

Today started off quietly but built up into a very pleasant day. Time for food and some sleep however.

Tomorrow is a new day !!


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: keberoxu
Date: 22 Aug 17 - 12:30 PM

The good news is that you folks are still here.

The other news is that I can't say a thing about photography.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Will Fly
Date: 22 Aug 17 - 06:03 AM

Indeed, Raggytash - many of my photographs have had hard copies printed on archival paper - which is another way of preserving them.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: DMcG
Date: 22 Aug 17 - 05:11 AM

On excessive precautions for photos. I went on a trip of a lifetime a few years back and decided I needed every bit of security i could come uo with, so ended up taking a 64Gb memory card for every morning and evening, eight spare batteries, a second camera and a portable hard disk sdcard backp gadget. Then when I got home I backed everything up to an ftp area and the cloud and a secondary 2Tb drive. At that is all in addition to my normal nightly backup to the cloud.

It is not as if the photos are that specual, but they are mine!


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Raggytash
Date: 22 Aug 17 - 05:11 AM

Will, A word of caution. A few years ago I was tasked with collating and storing all company records which, because of the nature of the business, had to be kept for a minimum of 80 years.

During this work I had a long meeting with a Kodak rep. The upshot of which was that he couldn't guarantee that digital photographs of the files could be kept for such a period.

However microfiche could be kept, or so it was calculated for 500 years.

Hopefully your record of the village will at some point be made available publically. So my advice would be stick to film and an SLR

Cheers


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Will Fly
Date: 22 Aug 17 - 04:58 AM

Good luck with RAW, Dave. Adobe Lightroom - like most modern Adobe graphics products - is now only available with a monthly subscription, and it's impossible to buy the up-to-date version of Lightroom. (I use a Mac laptop with 10.6.8 OS).

However, I managed to find and buy a CD of Lightroom 4 for a Mac with my old operating system - on eBay - and it works fine. There are alternatives to Lightroom, by the way.

I don't know how your Fuji operates - I've got a couple of Finepix compacts - but the Canon produces RAW files in a format called CR2. This is a Canon version of RAW which has to be converted into DNG (digital negative) format for use within Lightroom. So be aware of that,

The other point to note is that RAW files are fairly massive - around 50Mb each - and computer hard drive storage can get eaten into pretty quickly! The resulting JPGs produced from Lightroom are also between 10Mb-15Mb each, so you could just keep those and trash the original RAW files. I keep both, however, and store them on two separate 8Tb external hard drives - backed up immediately.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Aug 17 - 04:45 AM

I have a Fuji 'bridge' camera that does raw - Must have a play! Thanks Will.

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Will Fly
Date: 22 Aug 17 - 04:36 AM

For those who want to see one or two pictures in high resolution (the website with my photos compresses uploaded images), I have some full-size photographs. There's a page of thumbnails of them here, all taken over the last two years with the Canon:

High resolution images of Henfield

This page contains links to a few selected, high-resolution photographs taken from my archive of many hundreds of Henfield images. The images are held on a separate server, allowing me to display photos of a greater file size. Click on a thumbnail below to display the photo in a separate browser window - then click on any area of the the displayed photo to see it in extra detail. Clicking on the photo caption will take you to the relevant page of information about the subject.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Will Fly
Date: 22 Aug 17 - 04:28 AM

Places change constantly. New roads, new houses, changes of business, repairs and repaints, etc., are all part of it. The seasons bring their own changes as common lands and agricultural fields are filled with grasses and crops, and trees blossom and then close up for the winter.

Recording all this can seem a little obsessive at times, but - looking back over the years - it's like seeing a film of a village in slow motion. I've always been an amateur photographer, and still have my old Pentax S1a 35mm SLR and various lenses. When cassette cameras, digital cameras and the like came in, I also had several of those over the years. However, I realised after retirement some years ago that it was all too easy to relax in a chair with a guitar or the laptop - and get no exercise. So out came the camera really as an excuse to walk regularly - and to walk with a purpose. Then, about two years ago, I got fed up with the compact digital and had a yen to return to an SLR where I could have complete control over focus, aperture, shutter speed, etc. - just like the old days.

I now use a moderately expensive Canon DSLR with a "kit" zoom lens (18mm-135mm), which does me fine. And, more to the point, I shoot in RAW - which allows me complete control over the post-production with Adobe Lightroom software. For those non-camera buffs, RAW is the unprocessed file taken by the camera, containing all the information needed to create a JPG. Compact camera software creates a JPG according to the software in its chip, and you have very little overall control of it once the picture's been taken. Lightroom and RAW, together, are the equivalent of taking, developing, fixing and printing in the old darkroom process.

But that's a huge digression from the original point - which is the people I've met, the conversations I've had, the hidden places I've been to while doing all this - just from casual conversations and being interested in other people!


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: JHW
Date: 21 Aug 17 - 02:19 PM

Ref Will Fly post and Mr Red. As a junior electricity board engineer I laid on removal of supply to properties that were coming down so having this advance warning I would take photos of them, polaroids back then. Alas as I moved on the project faded and I've just been reminded of it.
It is important that areas are photographed in every era or there will be nothing to look back on.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Aug 17 - 10:45 AM

They were very good indeed. Let's have more! Anyone with such a hobby should share it here and let the 'cat enjoy the fruits of our labours :-)

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Pete from seven stars link
Date: 21 Aug 17 - 08:33 AM

I remember you posting your pics awhile back will fly and enjoying touring your village on the cat !


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Aug 17 - 07:16 AM

See you on Wednesday! :-)


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