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Lyr Req: songs about the Kennedy assassination

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BEST YEARS OF HER LIFE
DEATH OF JOHN KENNEDY
I SAW MY COUNTRY'S FLAG GO DOWN
I'M CALLED LITTLE CAROLINE
LEE HARVEY WAS A FRIEND OF MINE
LORD OF THE LAND
THAT WAS THE PRESIDENT AND THAT WAS THE MAN
THAT WAS THE PRESIDENT, THAT WAS THE MAN 2
THE BALLAD OF J. F. K.
THE BOY SALUTES


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Subject: Kennedy Assassination
From: Whippoorwill
Date: 16 Jul 97 - 12:16 PM

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For some reason, I've been thinking about the JFK assassination this morning, and remembering a song I heard on the radio only once on or about the day of his funeral.

The chorus went something like:

Oh, the world was cold and silent on that dark November day, when a mad assassin's bullet took (blew?) that gallant heart away.

I have never heard it since, and can find no reference in DT under Kennedy, assassin, or Kennedy Assassination. Has anyone else heard this, or did I imagine it?


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE BALLAD OF J. F. K. (Hayes & Wammack)
From: Gene
Date: 16 Jul 97 - 05:22 PM

Autry Inman recorded this one several years ago...

THE BALLAD OF J. F. K./ Recorded by Autry Inman/ Words and music by Hayes & Wammack

Now let me tell you, people about a mighty man
Whose destiny, it was to be the leader of our land
He fought for life, he fought for right, he fought for liberty
He proved himself a hero on the land and on the sea.

Then one day he flew away across the nation wide
Out to Dallas, Texas - along the great divide
To talk about the land he loved, of peace and liberty
And how to make a better home for such as you and me.

John F. Kennedy, he was a mighty man
John F. Kennedy, the leader of our land
He fought for life, he fought for right, he fought for liberty
He proved himself a hero on the land and on the sea.

While riding in a great parade, his sweet wife by his side
Among the many thousands who came from far and wide
To hear him talk about our land that he loved so dear
A sniper's bullet cut him down while the thousands cheered.

Long he'll live in history and great will be his name
And on the Heroes' grave today there burns a tiny flame
To show he died for the land he loved, for peace and liberty
A hero brave, he won his fame on land and on the sea.

John F. Kennedy, he was mighty man
John F. Kennedy, the leader of our land
She held him closely in her arms and heaven claimed his soul
She kissed his lips and in his hand she placed a band of gold.


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: rich r
Date: 16 Jul 97 - 08:48 PM

Several songs from come to mind about President Kennedy' death. These include:

"Abraham Martin & John" pop song popularized by Dion definitely doesn't have the lyrics you are looking for

"That Was The President" by Phil Ochs also does not have your line

Two others that I don't have printed versions and haven't listened to for a long time:

"Special Friend" by John Stewart recorded by Kingston Trio (Time To Think, and Capitol Years)

"Summer of His Years" recorded by Chad Mitchell Trio (Reflecting)

rich r


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Gene
Date: 17 Jul 97 - 12:41 PM

The POST of "rich r" reminded me of another tribute song by Tommy Cash with the line: "Goodbye Martin, Goodbye Bobby, Goodbye John/Six White Horses came to take you home."


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Whippoorwill
Date: 17 Jul 97 - 03:45 PM

Gene: Thanks, but that's not it.

rich l: Had the Kingstons or Chad Mitchell done it, I'm sure I would have heard it again. It may have been a one-time thing done by a local musician - I just can't remember. The tune was so haunting, a plaintive minor, that it stayed with me.


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Gene
Date: 17 Jul 97 - 08:57 PM

Well, if you find the one you're looking for Whippoorwill..please post the lyrics.....at least I learned the titles of some more tribute songs about JFK.


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Subject: Lyr Add: IN THE SUMMER OF HIS YEARS
From: rich r
Date: 19 Jul 97 - 07:41 PM

IN THE SUMMER OF HIS YEARS by Herbert Kretzmer & David Lee

The young man rode with his head held high
Under the Texas sun
And no one guessed that a man so blessed
Would perish by a gun
A shot rang out like a sudden shout
And heaven held its breath
And the dreams of a multitude of men
Went with him to his death
The heart of the world weighs heavy
With the helplessnes of tears
For a man shot down in the Texas sun
In the summer of his years

ABout the song- In 1963 the Saturday night TV schedule included an irreverent, satirical current events program called "That Was The Week That Was". The show had its orign on the BBC. President Kennedy was killed on a Thursday. TWTWTW was much more somber two days later that week. One of the pieces on the show was this song. I recall watching the program and like many others was stirred by the simple musical tribute. There was enough public response was such that TWTWTW replayed the song the following week. The Chad MItchell Trio recorded it on the Mercury label. The trio version combines this with slow dirge like renditon of the chorus of "Rally Round The Flag" a song widely sung after the Lincoln assassination (The later of course was also used as a popular rouser by the Union in the Civil War).

rich r


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: rich r
Date: 12 Feb 98 - 01:52 PM

refresh to go with Art Thieme's thread about Kennedy years

rich r


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 15 Feb 98 - 11:55 PM

Hoowdy folks, Just got back from Memphis. Had a grand time seein' old and new friends. Thanks for these songs for sure! The posted songs are all among the one's I've found . But the search goes on. Any new Kennedy songs'd be appreciated. (I'm tempted to post a song called "Teddy's Song"--it's funny as hell. But even yours truly exhibits some taste in these matters once in a while.) Thanks again, Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Joe Offer
Date: 16 Feb 98 - 03:03 AM

Welcome back, Art. In at least one of the Kennedy threads, people have been requesting that you post some of the Kennedy songs you have. Many of us would be interested.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE LORD OF THE LAND (Fred Geis)
From: Art Thieme
Date: 16 Feb 98 - 05:31 PM

For starters: Here's the very first assassination song I found: It's by Fred Geis---Fred, if you're out there it'd be great to hear from you! TITLE" _THE LORD OF THE LAND_
The song was finished before Oswald was killed and the verse about Ruby shooting Oswald ("the slayer lies dead at his feet") was added a day or two later.

Where is the master of the house,
Where is the lord of the land,
He's gone to rest with his youngest son,
Gone to a far distant land.

Where is the wife of the lord of the land?
What of his kindred and keep?
His mourning wife sails on a bonny great ship,
Over the ocean and deep.

Where is the brother of the lord of the land?
What sins does he repent?
He lies and he cries in the arms of his love,
His sorrows his sins do all rent.

What of the people who live in the land?
What of the crofters and fens?
There's crying in the villages and weeping in the towns,
Lamenting can be heard in the glens.

Where is the slayer whose arrow did quick
To kill the lord of the land?
He lies in a cell and he ponders his fate,
He knows not what sprang from his hand.

The leaves on the trees are dying and dead,
The flowers are dead on the heath,
The lord of the land lies dead in his grave,
The slayer lies dead at his feet.

(Repeat first verse)

(This is a non-specific song of the killing of JFK. I taped Fred singing it in my coach house in Chicago's Old Town area a day or two after Lee Oswald was killed. It was the beginning of a search that has gone on for almost 40 years.----Art Thieme)


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 16 Feb 98 - 05:40 PM

By the way, Tommy Cash is Johnny's brother. I do have that song in the big collection. There were several country songs as well as pop tunes, calypso songs, folk revival songs, Mexican songs, european songs: truly amazes me how the collection grew over the years!Art


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE DEATH OF JOHN KENNEDY
From: Art Thieme
Date: 16 Feb 98 - 11:42 PM

When I get the time I'll put a song or two up here. This is "THE DEATH OF JOHN KENNEDY" AS DONE BY BOB COLTMAN (A FINE WRITER AND SINGER) AND THE WEST MARYLAND HIGHBALLERS. Joe Bussard was in this group too as I recall. (This is an Old Timey band.)

Six white horses come a-drivin',
One black horse walked behind,
Takin' John Kennedy to Arlington,
Down to the buryin' ground.
He's gone; long time gone.

November 22nd,
Down in Dallas town,
Was there that fatal rifle shot,
Struck John Kennedy down.

His darling wife beside him,
She heard that bullet come,
She nevermore will see his face,
While her earthly life shall run.

The doctor come a-runnin',
This is what he said,
"There's nothing more that I can do,
John Kennedy is dead."

Goin' back to Washington,
Goin on a run,
Carryin' that coffin,
For to bring John Kennedy home.

The people on the eastbound train,
Goin' to Washington,
Thinking 'bout that dreadful crime,
That evil hand has done.

Lord, lord, Mr. Oswald,
What did you mean to do?
How could you pick that rifle up
and shoot John Kennedy through?

Put that flag upon him,
Put your mourning on,
Watch his coffin pass you by,
John Kennedy is gone
He's gone; long time gone.


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Feb 98 - 03:13 AM

This is great stuff, Art. Please keep it coming. Thanks.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: Lyr Add: TEDDY'S SONG
From:
Date: 17 Feb 98 - 10:13 AM

TEDDY'S SONG (composer unknown) tune:The Irish Washerwoman

Oh, your mother is old,

And your father is dead,

And your brother is dead,

And your brother is dead,

And your brother is dead,

And your kid has one leg,

And your wife is a drunk,

And your car doesn't float!!!


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Whippoorwill
Date: 17 Feb 98 - 03:47 PM

That was politically incorrect, insulting, in extremely poor taste, and undoubtedly written by a member of the great right-wing conspiracy. I love it!


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 17 Feb 98 - 04:25 PM

Ted was asked if he was gonna run for president. He answered, "I'll drive off that bridge when I come to it!


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Subject: Lyr Add: LEE HARVEY WAS A FRIEND OF MINE
From: Art Thieme
Date: 17 Feb 98 - 10:41 PM

LEE HARVEY WAS A FRIEND OF MINE
as sung by T.Texas Edwards and the Sickoids

I was born in Dallas in 1952,
Lee Harvey moved across the street on Bentley Avenue,
He used to throw the ball to me when I was just a kid,
They say he shot the president---I don't think he did.

(chorus) And Lee Harvey was a friend of mine,
He used to take me fishing all the time,
He used to throw the ball to me when I was just a kid,
They say he shot the president but I don't think he did.

I've seen them pictures of him with the family and a gun,
Shadows were pointin' every-which-a-way; 'Twas only just for fun,
Someone faked those photos; that's not the way it is,
They say he shot the president; I don't think he did.

I seen it on the TV when Lee Harvey got gunned down,
Murdered by Jack Ruby---the biggest sleaze in town,
He stuck that gun into his ribs; Says, "Here's lookin' at you, kid,
Ruby killed Lee Harvey---TV proved he did!!

(Found this song on a red vinyl, 7-inch, 331/3 rpm record. Written by "Bennison/Cotton"--Bennisongs/Ben-Jay Music(BMI). As released on SFTRI 55---Sympathy For The Record Industry record company---4901 Virginia Ave.---Long Beach, CA. 90805


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Wolfgang Hell
Date: 18 Feb 98 - 11:03 AM

Dylan's "He was a friend of mine" is also about the JFK assassination.
Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 18 Feb 98 - 11:47 AM

Dylan & Dave VanRonk did "He Was A Friend Of Mine" before the assassination. The Byrds version was obviously for J.F.K. & contained spoken asides about him and Dallas's Love Field (airport). McGuinn thought it ironic that he was taken to LOVE Field after being killed.Art


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Paul Stamler
Date: 18 Feb 98 - 02:39 PM

Hi Art:

A small correction on "Lee Harvey"; where your transcription says:

I've seen them pictures of him with the family and a gun, Shadows were pointin' every-which-a-way; 'Twas only just for fun,

my ears hear the last line as "There's only just one sun" (relating to the curious multiple shadow directions in a famous photo of Lee Oswald).

Peace. Paul


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 18 Feb 98 - 05:08 PM

Paul, You're probably right! (Bet nobody ever accused you of being "right" before; am I correct? Missed ya in Memphis. Art


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Subject: Lyr Add: I SAW MY COUNTRY'S FLAG GO DOWN (Phillips
From: Art Thieme
Date: 11 Mar 98 - 01:03 AM

I SAW MY COUNTRY'FLAG GO DOWN by Bruce Utah Phillips
chorus)
I saw my country's flag go down,
(repeat)
So many people standing silent all around,
I saw my country's flag go down.

Red for the blood of a young man true and brave,
White for the cross out on his grave,
Blue for the sky he nevermore will see,
And the stars for a crown of victory.

Red for blind hatred that shatters all our dreams,
White for the love that still redeems,
Blue for the patriots that mourn him everywhere,
And the stars are a cross we now must bear.

Red for the deserts where it seldom rains,
White for the snow out on the plains,
Blue for the mountains bright waters tumbling down,
And the stars for each state in the union bound.


I'm sure Buce would just as soon forget that he wrote this song. As a matter of fact I'm pretty sure he has forgotten it. I got it (taped it) from Rosalie Sorrels many years ago. She remembers all the songs Bruce forgot! Rosalie sang it into my recorder one night in the basement of SOMEBODY ELSE'S TROUBLES----a grand club in Chicago. (That club was owned jointly by Fred Holstein, Earl Pionke (the Earl of Old Town), Steve Goodman, Bill Redhed and possibly more.) Many other bars had tried that location but none lasted long. I remember being in a car with Steve Goodman, Earl, Fred Holstein etc. one night and Steve asked me where he thought he ought to put a new folk club called Somebody Else's Troubles---named for a song Steve had written with that title? I recall saying right off the bat, "Put it where those other clubs failed!" I'd hit it on the head; that's where they planned to set up the new club.

(My intention here is to add a song to this every time it gets near the end of the thread list so it'll be revived and back near the top again. Am still hoping to find Kennedy songs I don't have in this collection!

One more thing: November 22, 1963 Bruce was having his lunch on the lawn of the Utah State Archive (where he was working) when he saw the flag being lowered because the president had just been killed. At least that's how I recall hearing the story of this song's birth.)
Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: MarcB
Date: 11 Mar 98 - 01:33 AM

What an interesting thread. Thanks all. It reminds me how powerful the singing tradition can be, both the serious and the silly, even in this New World:)

Another song that I believe may have been about the Kennedy assassination is Phil Och's "Crucifixion". It was very popular among young Episcopalians in the late 60's and I still sing it as an example of a song that makes you THINK about the Crucifixion instead of just being pious. So it works on that level.

BUT in an old Phil Och's Songbook the lyrics are juxtaposed with a photograph of the cavalry horse with the backwards boots from the Kennedy funeral procession. And the song also REALLY WORKS on that level, too, whether Phil intended it that way or not.

Cross-reference to Paul Clayton thread. Another fine singer/songwriter who took his own life(I think, but may have died of natural causes at a young age, somebody set me straight please). And also in the shadow of Dylan(don't mean to imply anything, just find it interesting).

Marc B


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 11 Mar 98 - 10:38 AM

Marc, "Crucifixion" is definitely about J.F.K.'s assassination. I've had it in my collection for many years. (The collection is now at the Archive Of Folk Culture at the Libr. of Congress. I started the collection---- SONGS OF THE LIFE, TIMES AND ASSASSINATION OF JOHN FITZGERALD KENNEDY-----way over 30 years ago.

The best version of "Crucifixion" was done by JIM & JEAN (Glover). Jim was a roomy of Phil Ochs's at Ohio State U. Ochs wrote several songs featuring JFK----not all on the assassination itself. One that was is "That Was The President and That Was The Man". Several were printed in BROADSIDE. Dylan's, Paxton's, many others had their early songs printed there.

And all the info that could be found via Mudcat on PAUL CLAYTON (WORTHINGTON) can be found at THAT THREAD! Have fun! (Info. his connections to Dylan's songs is talked about there too.) Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Jerry Friedman
Date: 11 Mar 98 - 07:33 PM

I thought the Ted Kennedy song was by the great Tom Lehrer.


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 12 Mar 98 - 12:12 AM

No, I truly don't think that's correct. Art


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: MarcB
Date: 12 Mar 98 - 07:58 PM

Art,

Much thanks for the info re: Crucifixion

I realize I wasn't clear in my closing paragraph. What I meant was that like Paul Clayton, Phil Ochs was another singer who died early, also in the shadow of Bob Dylan. And I couldn't remember whether Phil Ochs had taken his own life or died of other causes. And I couldn't recall how much of Phil's frustrations(if had some) were related to likewise being in the shadow of Dylan.

This thread has reinforced for me the power of folk music(however you choose to define it) in weaving the thread of who we are.

Marc


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 13 Mar 98 - 04:45 PM

Howdy folks---I sent a song here along with a note to Marc. Was wondering if it got there or where it might be !!??! Art


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Subject: Lyr Add: BEST YEARS OF HER LIFE (Gordon Lightfoot)
From: Art Thieme
Date: 18 Mar 98 - 06:43 PM

I was working at the Old Town Folklore Center in Chicago---1965 or 66---connected to the Old Town School Of Folk Music. A NEW singer named Gordon Lightfoot was in town to play at a folk club called Mother Blues. Chicago audiences had turned on to G.L.'s music because Bob Gibson was singing his songs around town. A friend named Guy Guilbert, brought the audition recording Gordon had sent to the club, into the shop for me to hear. (That floppy LP only had 4 songs on it.) This was one of them!

THE BEST YEARS OF HER LIFE
by Gordon Lightfoot

chorus)
Oh, the prettiest time in her life,
The most wonderful years in her life,
No one must see her poor heart grieve,
In the prettiest time in her life,
The most wonderful years in her life.

Young man, don't go to Dallas today,
Young man, take heed what I say,
Take heed lest the hopes and the dreams be torn,
In the prettiest time in her life.

In Dallas town there waits another man,
With different views and different plans,
Beware of him thy young life to spare,
In the prettiest time in her life.

Wait not for the sun to rise again,
Wait not for warning from your men,
Beloved is the one who waits by her side,
In the prettiest time of her life.


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Subject: Lyr Add: THAT WAS THE PRESIDENT, THAT WAS THE MAN
From: Art Thieme
Date: 21 Mar 98 - 03:15 PM

THAT WAS THE PRESIDENT, THAT WAS THE MAN by Phil Ochs
(revised version)

The bullets of the false revenge have struck us once again,
As the angry seas have struck upon the sand,
And it seems as though a friendless world has lost itself a friend,
That was the president, and that was the man.

I still can see him smiling there and waving to the crowd,
As he drove through the music of the band,
And never even knowing no more time would be allowed,
Not for the president, and not for the man.

Here's a memory to share, here's a memory to save,
Of the sudden early ending of command,
Yet a part of you, a part of me is burried in his grave,
That was the president, and that was the man.

Everything he might've done and all he could've been,
Was proven by the troubled traitor's hand,
For what other death could wound the hearts of so many men,
That was the president, and that was the man.

The glory that was Lincoln's never died when he was slain,
It's been carried over time and time again,
And to the list of honor you may list another name,
That was the president, and that was the man.


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Subject: Lyr Add: THAT WAS THE PRESIDENT AND THAT WAS THE M
From: Art Thieme
Date: 21 Mar 98 - 03:47 PM

THAT WAS THE PRESIDENT AND THAT WAS THE MAN by Phil Ochs
(original version)

On a South Pacific ocean, on a South Pacific shore,
A legend was written on the sand,
For a man of peace was born in the middle of a war,
That was the president, and that was the man.

With the wisdom of the old and the vision of the young,
A challenge was given to the land,
And our dreams of peace were spoken with a gifted, golden tongue,
That was the president, and that was the man.

When the freedom revolution gave a rumble and a roar,
The world was shown on which side he would stand,
For the first time in a hundred years he opened up the door,
That was the president, and that was the man.

When a hungry world was searching for a way to feed it's own,
The Peace Corps was offered as his plan,
And now these seeds of knowledge go wherever winds have blown,
That was the president, and that was the man.

Everything he might've done and all he could've been,
Was proven by the tainted traitor's hand,
For what other death could wound the hearts of so many men,
That was the president, and that was the man.

No end to all the sorrow and the hours we shall grieve,
So deep was the fire of his brand,
And still I can remember, and still I can't believe,
That was the president, and that was the man.

Yes, the glory that was Lincoln's never died when he was slain,
That glory shown with Roosevelt again,
And to this list of honor you may list another name,
For these were the presidents, and these were the men.


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE BOY SALUTES (Malvina Reynolds)^^
From: Art Thieme
Date: 21 Mar 98 - 04:15 PM

MALVENA REYNOLDS was a grand person, songwriter, singer, grandmother----I could go oh a long while. Of course, she wrote "LITTLE BOXES"---but she also wrote a song a day for many years. Here's a lesser-known song!

THE BOY SALUTES (by Malvina Reynolds)
a true tale--John Kennedy Jr. saluted as his father's casket went by. Those of us alive then remember all too well...

The little boy salutes the casket,
The caisson passing through,
He salutes the nation's flag,
As his daddy taught him to.

CHORUS) There's so much anger in the air,
So many bullets fly,
It's time for love to take a hand,
And love is passing by,
Daddy, goodbye.

The little boy stands on the curb stone,
Where the black horse goes his way,
There is no one in the saddle,
Where a man rode yesterday.

CHORUS) There's so much sorrow in the air,
So many tears to dry,
It's time for love to take a hand,
And love is passing by,
Daddy, goodbye.

There's so much grieving in the world,
Where the kings and princes go,
And they walk like men in mourning,
And their step is sad and slow.

CHORUS) The little boy stands on the sidewalk,
The children asking why,
It's time for love to take a hand,
And love is passing by,
Daddy, goodbye. ^^ (in DT Apr 98)


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 21 Mar 98 - 04:25 PM

Good folks,

Sure would be nice to find a song I haven't found yet posted here. I feel like one hand clapping... But maybe I found 'em all...

Art


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Subject: Lyr Add: I'M CALLED LITTLE CAROLINE (M Schwartz)
From: Art Thieme
Date: 21 Mar 98 - 05:15 PM

Here's one more for now! It's not an assassination song. BUT it is about the other sibling---Caroline Kennedy.

In 1963 this song showed up. It's by by Milton Schwartz.

I'M CALLED LITTLE CAROLINE (to the tune of "I'm Called Little Buttercup")

I'm called little Caroline, dear little Caroline,
Pampered from morning to dusk,
By Sorenson, Salinger, Stevenson, Schlesinger, Bundy and Dillon and Rusk.

Some others I've slighted but those I've recited,
Stand out like an elephant's tusk,
That's Sorenson, Salinger, Stevenson, Schlesinger, Bundy and Dillon and Rusk.

The names are so varied both maiden and married,
And weekly there's somebody new,
So when I can't keep up I quietly creep up,
And look in the Harvard, "Who's Who."

They say daddy's power just blooms like a flower,
But, still, when you strip off the husk,
There's Sorenson, Salinger, Stevenson, Schlesinger, Bundy and Dillon and Rusk.

So when they are handy I beg them for candy,
And find that they never are brusque,
Not Sorenson, Salinger, Stevenson, Schlesinger, Bundy and Dillon and Rusk!


O.K.----HERE's a CHALLENGE TO ALL MUDCATS!!

WHO ARE Sorenson, Salinger, Stevenson, Schlesinger, Bundy and Dillon and Rusk????

And, no, Bundy is NOT Ted Bundy! And Schlesinger is not Dr. Laura (but she could be related. I wonder?)

This is a great ploy to elicit participation!!

Art


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 23 Mar 98 - 05:22 PM

Art- Expertise is that small window in time between having been exposed to enough things to remember and not being able to remember them. I'll leave the challenge to those that find it challenging. THAT stuff, I remember.


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE STREETS OF DALLAS TOWN (B Griffith)
From: Art Thieme
Date: 04 Apr 98 - 01:12 PM

THE STREETS OF DALLAS TOWN
BY BENJAMIN GRIFFITH
TUNE: "The Wearin' Of The Green"

Americans, oh did ya hear the news that's going 'round,
They've gone and shot John Kennedy on the streets of Dallas town.
Chorus)
The streets of Dallas town,
Lord, the streets of Dallas town,
They've gone and shot our president,
On the streets of Dallas town.
He stood for human dignity and rights the world around,
That's why they cut him down on the streets of Dallas town.

Everywhere a chorus of hate had made an awful sound,
That's why they cut him down on the streets of Dallas town.

And you and I had listened and had not made reply,
And that is why, in Dallas town, a good man was to die.


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Subject: Lyr Add: ELEVEN MILES AN HOUR
From: Art Thieme
Date: 06 Apr 98 - 08:29 PM

"ELEVEN MILES AN HOUR"----(as done by the rock band WAS NOT WAS on their album _What Up Dog_
Title refers to the speed of the motorcade when JFK was shot. This was written with an awareness of the Abe Zapruder film of the assassination. The lyric also mentions Lee Harvey Oswalds possible role as a patsy for other interests: the mob, CIA etc.

Lee Harvey O. never had no chance,
He never caught a break, he never drove a Caddy,
He joined the Marines to learn a skill,
And that he did---he learned how to kill.

Chorus
Eleven miles an hour--such a deadly speed,
Eleven miles an hour--the town a place of greed,
They pulled their limousine down the street so they grieved,
Came down like a shower at eleven miles an hour.

JFK went down to Dallas,
To cool some heels...
To prove to the people that he was not afraid,
He would wave to the people from a passing motorcade.

Word came to Khruschev, "I'll leave Castro alone,
If you take away those missiles--they're too damn close to home."
The CIA, the Cubans and the underworld bosses,
Decided that was it---they had to cut their losses.

Lee Harvey O. was mode to order,
A writer from the left crossin' the border,
Earl Warren got a version out fast,
America was happy---the patsy had been cast.

Some of the words here I had a hard time makin' out. This was the best I could do.
Art


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Subject: Lyr Add: PRESIDENT KENNEDY (Son House)
From: Art Thieme
Date: 26 Apr 98 - 11:31 AM

Here's a strange song from the great Delta blues singer, Eddie Son House. After being "rediscovered" in the late 1960s, Son House recorded an album for Columbia. In the 1990s that album was issued on a CD. This song, which was not on the original, was on the CD.

Mr. Kennedy was born but now he is gone,
And he'll never return any more,
Made me feel sad--he was the best friend we had,
From the election...(can't understand)
What Mr. Kennedy did tell will last me for years,
His memory still rings in my head.

Now, this we agree--he had a great family,
They all seemed so happy and gay,
From adults to a child they all seemed to have a smile,
They must've been born that way,
What Mr. Kennedy said will last me for years,
His memory still rings in my head.

Now, God bless little John--let little Caroline respond,
And also their mother dear,
His father and mother--sister and brother,
They must've been born that way,
What Mr. Kennedy did tell will last me for years,
His memory still rings in my head!


Art Thieme


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Subject: Lyr Add: GOD'S GAME OF CHECKERS (Dave McEnery)
From: Art Thieme
Date: 10 May 98 - 12:32 AM

GOD'S GAME OF CHECKERS
by Red River Dave McEnery (who also wrote "Amelia Ehrhart") RECITED OVER MUSIC!

Once upon a time there was a little boy who stood beside his grieving mother and watched a saddened nation bear, with pomp and ceremony, its president, his daddy. Far across the country in a western state, a silver-haired cowboy watched the scene on television with tear-dimmed eyes. His heart was burdened with sorrow as he sat down and wrote the little boy this letter:

I feel I must call you son because today your daddy has gone to be with the hallowed heroes, and I never had a boy. I wanted to write you a letter and send you a present--a toy or a game. I'm enclosing a game called Checkers. I want to tell you, son, of a great American legend called GOD'S GAME OF CHECKERS.

According to history checkers is the world's oldest game dating back to the time of the ancient pharaohs. Thousands of years before Christ, our lord and savior. The checkerboard is a checkered square teaching us that we should all live on the square and always treat our fellow man fairly. There are twelve dark men and twelve light men--opponents on the board. In life we have men with souls the same way: some dark--evil, and some light--good. The dark checker makes the first aggressive move. The light must answer with skill not to be overcome. So it is in the world today. The aim of the men on the checkerboard is to reach the kingdom. So it is with us on earth. He who reaches the kingdom has won the ultimate game--the game of life and eternity. A man moves toward the king row and there are many traps and dangers of which he must be aware. Sometimes a man must be sacrificed so that others, in time, may win the final game. So it was with your daddy, boy. Old Glory is still waving, son, across our nation from the silver sands of Hawaii to the rocky coast of Massachusetts. And just like the great Americans--Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln--your daddy believed in God's game of checkers. In time a way will be found for all men to live as brothers. God grant we live to see that day. Some day the checkerboard of life will lead all men who believe to that great kingdom.

The old cowboy then saddled his horse, carried the letter and the package to a small United States post office where Old Glory rippled at half mast. That evening, as the stars filled the sky, he placed a kerosene lamp in a cabin window facing east. And somehow that light seemed to spread across the nation and join another small flame amid the heroes at Arlington.


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Joe Offer
Date: 10 May 98 - 01:25 AM

Art, there's not much the rest of us can add, but I think that many of us are reading these songs with interest as you post them. Keep 'em coming.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: Lyr Add: 11 MPH
From: Nora
Date: 10 May 98 - 01:23 PM

Art

I've got the lyrics for 11 mph. You're version isn't so far off. They lyric sheet in the CD isn't right either; the verses are in a different order. I love this tune.
Nora

11 MPH

Lee Harvey O didn't have no daddy
He never caught a break
He never drove a Caddy
Joined the marines to learn a skill
And that he did
He learned how to kill

chorus:
At 11 miles an hour
Such a deadly speed
11 miles an hour
at the time and place agreed
They pulled that limousine down
Elm Street slow and clean
Lead fell like a shower
At 11 miles an hour

JFK went down to Dallas
To cool some heels in the oil palace
Unfriendly country
but he was unafraid
He would wave to the people
from a passing motorcade

chorus

JFK told Kruschev
I'll leave Castro alone
If you take away those missles
They're too damn close to home
The CIA, the Cubans
And the underworld bosses
Decide that was it
They had to cut their losses

chorus

Lee Harvey O was made to order
A radical nut, a drifter and a boarder
Earl Warren got a version out fast
America was happy
The patsy had been cast.

chorus


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Allan C.
Date: 11 May 98 - 09:28 AM

Whippoorwill, You mention that you would have recognized it if it had been done by "the Kingstons". Is it possible that you may have missed one? There was a song written by John Stuart which sounded very "not Kingston Trio". It appeared on an album along with "Last Night I Had The Strangest Dream", and, "These Seven Men". But I'll be damned if I can think of what it was called. It starteded and ended with:

"When you sit and wonder 'bout things that have gone wrong, Then I think you'll understand where our friend has gone..."

These may not be the actual words, but I think they are close.


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 11 May 98 - 11:09 AM

THANKS FOLKS!!

Allan C., the song you're thinking about is called "Song For A Friend" by John Stuart.

I'll try to put it here later.

John Stuart did a few songs about his reaction to the death of JFK and was heavily involved in Bobby Kennedy's later run for the nomination. He was traveling with Bobby & I saw him with RFK in Newport, Oregon (a rally) a week before Bobby was killed in California. Bobby Kennedy lost the Oregon primary to Minnesota Senator Eugene McCarthy (NO RELATION to the infamous Joe McCarthy of House Un-American Activities infamy). I was wearing a McCarthy button at that Bobby K. rally & was challenged by a supporter of Bobby's (a mountain climber named Jack Whittaker as I recall who scaled Mount Kennedy with Bobby---that peak was named for John Kennedy) 'caus he felt Bobby was the only one who could actually win. I recall telling that fellow that I was for McCarthy because he challenged Lyndon Johnson when we needed him & that I wasn't about to abandon him now that Bobby had jumped into the race. In hindsight I see that he was probably correct.

So much for the ideals of youth...

Bobby Kennedy won the California primary a week later and it was at that victory clelebration that he was killed by Sirhan Bishara Sirhan who is still in prison for that.

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Allan C.
Date: 11 May 98 - 01:57 PM

As usual, Art, you are right on top of it. Yes, that was the John Stuart song I was trying to remember - Hey! Wasn't that the name of the album? No matter. Your remarks about his association with the Kennedys reminded me that somewhere on the cover of that album it was claimed that John wrote the song the day after Dallas. I believe that the album was released almost immediately afterwards.


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Subject: Lyr Add: SONG FOR A FRIEND
From: Art Thieme
Date: 11 May 98 - 07:54 PM

Hey, I think I've been spelling "Stewart" wrong. Sorry.

SONG FOR A FRIEND
by John Stewart

When you sit and wonder why things have gone so wrong,
You wish someone would tell us where our friend has gone,
Look then to the hills for there's courage in the wind,
And in the face of freedom and those who look to him,
Then I think we'll know where our friend has gone.

Summer takes the winter and the good years take the pain,
There'll be laughter in the world again but hearts won't be the same,
I know I'll remember when a chill wind shakes the sky,
Speak of years he gave us hope for they will never die,
As we gaze at brave young men when yesterdays roll on,
Then I think we'll know where our friend has gone.


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Chris U.
Date: 12 May 98 - 02:31 PM

My grandfather passed away several years ago, leaving behind a collection of newspapers he had saved over the years. Towards the bottom of one of the bundles was an old, yellowed Chicago Tribune from the day Kennedy was shot. You could have heard a pin drop when we came across that one.

As an aside, this thread keeps taking me back to another slain President and the words of Walt Whitman:

O CAPTAIN! my Captain! our fearful trip is done;
The ship has weather'd every rack, the prize we sought is won;
The port is near, the bells I hear, the people all exulting,
While follow eyes the steady keel, the vessel grim and daring:

But O heart! heart! heart!
O the bleeding drops of red,
Where on the deck my Captain lies,
Fallen cold and dead.

Chris


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Subject: Lyr Add: TRIBUTE TO JOHN F. KENNEDY
From: Art Thieme
Date: 13 May 98 - 01:41 AM

Chris, Thanks so much!!

Believe it or not "Captain My Captain" was recorded as a song by Anthony Newley on the flip side of a real JFK assassination song: "Tribute To John F. Kennedy". Now I guess I'd better post that song!

It makes you sad to think on it how men will never learn,
Just take a look through history no matter where you turn,
We never could appreciate a good man 'til he's gone,
And we have lost the greatest man our times will look upon.

Ch) The world was stunned and silent on that cold November day,
When a mad assassin's bullet took that gallant heart away.

He died November 22nd in 1963,
He left a brave young widow with two children at her knee,
No one knows how she told them of the black and tragic day,
But the little boy saluted as the caisson moved away.

He was more than just a leader; he was really a messiah,
He had a dream for all mankind that'd set their souls afire,
That all men should be equal was the dream he had in view,
We recognized the message and we crucified him too.

He looked so young we wondered but he soon dispelled our fears,
He had a kind of wisdom that was far beyond his years,
He worked so hard all through the day; the night brought no relief,
His lamp burned bright all through the night--he had to keep the peace.

He had the gift of laughter--a gentle comic sense,
He'd be the first to laugh at any joke at his expense,
For great men know their pomp and pride are empty shadows play,
For all men will be equal on that final judgment day.

His passing left a family to face the world alone,
A brave courageous widow with a courage all her own,
She slowly took her wedding ring and placed it on his hand,
And the story of it carries like a legend through the land.

It's hard to find a moral in this dread catastrophe,
But he will not have died in vain if we can guarantee,
The next time that the likes of him is set down in this land,
We'll all forget our differences and give a helping hand.


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 23 May 98 - 01:18 AM

The telephone rang and it would not stop,

It was President Kennedy callin' me up,

He said, "My friend Bob, What do we need to make the country grow?"

I said, "My friend Jack, Bridget Bardot, Anita Ekberg, Sophia Loren---

Country'll grow!!!"

(from a "rap" song by Bob Dylan)


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Rockaday Johnnie
Date: 24 May 98 - 04:55 PM

Hey Art - Here's an obscure recording..maybe someone can help you track it down. It MUST have some Kennedy comment --It's on a 45 (remember them?) from Chicago by Blind Arvella Grey (You knew him didn't you? he was a friend of Jim Brewers) The label number is Gray 100 -Side One is "Freedom Riders" and side Two is "Freedom Bus" --If anyone can find this please send it to Art (Or at least a tape). It was made in 1965(?) which actually seems a little late for the subject --Good Luck!

"Tell yer Ma - Tell Yer Pa --Our Love's gonna grow wa wa" From a rap by Bob Dylan


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 25 May 98 - 10:54 AM

Rockaday Johnnie,

Thanks!!! I don't have that song! Didn't know Arvella did that one. Sure would like to get it--even if only in manuscript form!

Yes, I knew Arvella Gray. I've some good color slides of him playing his old National Guitar on Grand Ave. in Chicago outside the Grand & State Subway entrance (his favorite place to hit rush hour crowds for their change).

Arvella only had a thumb & 1 or 2 fingers on his left hand so he always played with a bottleneck on his finger. He was at the first University Of Chicago Folk Festival back in 1961. WFMT taped the Fest & put his "Goin' To Heaven Blues" on the air. I've still got that song on tape.

Goin' to heaven, gonna sit down on a chair, I'm goin' to heaven, gonna sit down on a chair, Gonna ask ol' Moses to sing me the walkin' blues!

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Rockaday Johnnie
Date: 25 May 98 - 03:24 PM

Art - I saw Arvella once - in '65 or '66 in front of Keoster Blues Record Mart - He played John Henry several times --My first introduction to bottleneck guitar -He did have several obscure recordings - I've not seen any myself but he recorded 4 tracks on an English lp (Heritage 1004) including John Henry -- He and Brewer recorded 2 45's for Gray -"Deborah"/"You Are My Dear" -Gray 13 And "John Henry"/"Walkin' Blues" -Gray 14. Jim Brewerss' I'm so Glad Good Whiskey's Back" is also on the Heritage lp - Maybe someday I'll find this lp... Sorry Folks this probably shouldn't have been put in this thread.


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 26 May 98 - 12:22 AM

Johnnie,

The Jazz Record Mart was right there where I took those photos of Arvella---Grand & State St.--where the subway passengers climb to the street level. I did some research work for Bob Koester back in '64---looked up some Lemon Jefferson 78s on Broadway label for him in the card file (no computers then) at the Folksong Archive at the Library of Congress. First met Joe Hickerson that summer.

Jim Brewer and I worked at the No Exit for many years back then. Him on Wednesday nights and me on Thursdays.The No Exit was just sold last week!! I played there for 37 years...but it's still there!!!

Art


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Subject: Lyr Add: ON TOP OF GOLDWATER (Milton Schwartz)
From: Art Thieme
Date: 28 May 98 - 09:59 PM

Here's one by Milton M. Schwartz from his songbook __SING ALONG WITH JACK---HIT SONGS FROM THE NEW FRONTIER__

This is presented here for Barry Goldwater---who is quite ill right now.

"ON TOP OF GOLDWATER" (J.F.K.'s Lament)
(tune "On Top Of Old Smoky")

On top of Goldwater,
Who gets out of hand,
There's Tower of Texas,
How much can I stand?

There's Ev'rett and Charlie,
And Time Magazine,
And Democrat Lausche,
You know what I mean.

With critical letters,
My office is strewn,
And I've had to cancel,
The Herald Tribune.

They're just being friendly,
And anxious to please,
With friends like I've mentioned,
Who needs enemies?


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE STREETS OF DALLAS TOWN
From: Art Thieme
Date: 12 Jun 98 - 11:32 AM

Good Folks'

Here's another JFK song before I take off for a while.

THE STREETS OF DALLAS TOWN
by Benjamin Griffith
tune: The Wearin' O' The Green

Americans and did ya hear the news thats goin' 'round
They've gone and shot John Kennedy on the streets of Dallas town.

Chorus) On the streets of Dallas town
On the streets of Dallas town,
They've gone and shot our president,
On the streets of Dallas town

He stood for human dignity and rights the world around,
That's why they cut him down on the streets of Dallas town.

Everywhere a chorus of hate had made an awful sound,
That's why they cut him down on the streets of Dallas town.

And you and I had listened and had not made reply,
And that is why, in Dallas town, a good man had to die.

Art


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 12 Jun 98 - 11:36 AM

EVERYBODY---Joe & Max & all,

Thanks for your patience!!! I FINALLY figured out how to BREAK off a line so's to get stanzas to post correctly!!

And thanks for all the HTML info!

Art


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Bert C
Date: 12 Jun 98 - 12:36 PM

Hey Art, you found it!

I just cruised through this whole thread and noticed that the song you posted on May 13 appears to be the one Whipporwill was originally looking for. Congratulations!

Bert C


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 12 Jun 98 - 03:27 PM

Seems that it was actually posted on 7/19/97 by Rich R.

THE SUMMER OF HIS YEARS was the song from the TV show THAT WAS THE WEEK THAT WAS. Art

ALSO: Sorry, I posted the last song twice it seems---once quite a bit earlier! When your memory goes, forget it!

Art


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Bert C
Date: 12 Jun 98 - 04:48 PM

Art,

Sorry if I misled you. I wasn't referring to "IN THE SUMMER OF HIS YEARS." I meant "TRIBUTE TO JOHN F. KENNEDY" that you said was on the flip side of "CAPTAIN MY CAPTAIN". (see 13May98) The chorus matches what Whipporwill originally asked for.

Bert C


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 12 Jun 98 - 07:41 PM

Now I get it! Does take me a while sometimes. Anyhow, glad to have been of service!

Thanks,

Art


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Jun 98 - 03:58 AM

Gee, Art, if you've figured out how to do line breaks, does that mean I'm out of a job? < grin >
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 13 Jun 98 - 03:52 PM

Joe Hickerson sent this to me back in 1964. It was in an article in the NEW YORK TIMES -- Sunday, July 12th, '64.

Sarajevo, Yogoslavia--July 11th
The president is already a part of folklore!
In this Balkan land of folk heroes, John F. Kennedy has already become a part of the nation's lore.The President is a popular figure here. Now, after streets and squares have been named after him and best-selling books have been published about him, Mr. Kennedy has become the subject of a folk ballad. The song was composed recently by a young Bosnian, Ramo Ramovic, who works by day as a bookkeeper in Bosnafolklor company's home offices. In the evening he sings this song in the basement nightclub of the Europa Hotel, strumming his own accompaniment on a single-stringed usla, an ancient instrument that emits a haunting whine.
Mr. Ramovic's song is in the deseterac (ten syllable) style of Bosnian folksongs and he has cast his verse in rhymed couplets. Following is a translation of "THE ASSASSINATION OF JOHN KENNEDY" as far as Mr. Ramovic has carried it. He plans to add more verses later.
Here"s his song:

Not even the bird that makes it's nest coming
That the 20th century would herald sad news to all,
That on November 22nd,
Americans would be in great sorrow,
Echoes ring and phones buzz,
Tempests and storms appear,
Sad news spreads everywhere of America's severe misfortune
Grief has stirred the whole world,
Kennedy could not be rescued,
The powder was exploded,
The rifle fired from a high floor,
The steel bullet was swift,
That caused John's lethal wounds,
It struck his heroic head,
He met that bitter glory,
Grave pains overcame him,
Johnny fell in Jacqueline's arms,
That dear Jacqueline embraced him
With her white arms,
With a sick heart she embraced him,
To lighten his heavy pains,
With grave suffering darkening his face,
They went to Dallas (Parkland) Hospital,
Doctors offered help,
In vain, sad news is spreading,
That cursed steel bullet,
Has wounded Johnny mortally,
President Johnny has passed away,
He has left the earth forever,
The news is heard afar,
The world echoes sorrowing despair,
Kennedy is no more,
Despair,
John Kennedy is no more,
Dallas, Texas, what is happening in thee?
Why did you allow that hostile hand
That sniper to touch that firearm,
So that iron ignited the fire,
And struck John so cunningly,
Johnny has no more strength,
With a sick heart his breath slows,
Dead Johnny falls to earth,
And now Jacquiline suffers heavy grief,
A beautiful person, respected lady,
Stays alone without Johnny,
She never will forget him,
Johnny was like blooming flowers,
They tried to save him,
In unlucky Dallas Hospital,
The first aid given him,
Kept him not one hour,
The wound was mortal,
And the earth has seized him forever,
To rest for eternity,
For there was no cure for Johnny,
Now in sorrow many hearts were silent,
And they drove him to the White House,
To give him the last honors,
They know for certain John was gone
The caisson carries him,
With a white horse from the White House,
To the soldier's grave of heroes,
This is, Johnny, your eternal home.
The procession turns aside now,
Men of noble face,
All America grieves for him,
There are many foreign friends,
Many notables from abroad,
There are many from all sides,
The chieftains, czars and queens,
And many eminent guests,
To say farewell to the great hero,
Too many to enumerate,
The relatives go first,
With his wife Jacqueline,
In the line are two brothers now,
The grieving Robert next to brother Edward,
And his daughter Caroline,
Who is only 6 years old.

{Folks, please keep in mind that these are graphic depictions of the emotions of that sad era; that's what you are reading here! None of the revelations of recent years were known! There had been no other asssassinations yet. This, and the other assassination songs I've posted here, were SPONTANEOUS OPUTPOURINGS OF EMOTION TURNED TO POETRY by folks from all walks of life. They allow you to travel back in time!}

Art Thieme


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Subject: Lyr Add: BRAND NEW '64 DODGE (Greg Brown)
From: Anne
Date: 15 Jun 98 - 12:47 AM

Greg Brown has a haunting reminder of those last innocent days before JFK died. This song is found on Poet Game available from Red House Records. 1-800-695-4687.

BRAND NEW '64 DODGE

Money comes out of Dad's billfold.
Hankies come out of Mom's purse.
The engine hardly makes a sound
even when you put in reverse.
It's got a push-button transmission,
hardtop convertible 4-Door.
It's November of '63
and the brand new Dodge is a '64.

And we're rolling slow down Main Street--
the asphalt and the gravel crunch.
Church is finally over
and we're going to have our Sunday lunch.
And then I will play football
with my buddies down in the park.
Later I'll dream about my girlfriend
as I lie alone in the dark.

She's got short red hair and blue eyes
and her swimsuit is also blue
and her little brother is retarded,
but Jesus loves him, too.
And Jesus loves our president,
even though he is a Catholic.
There's alot for a boy to think about
as he walks along the railroad tracks.

And my sister won't get carsick
'cause we're only going half a mile
and the car still has that new car smell
and Dad looks like he might smile
and the world is big and full of Autumn
and I'm as hungry as can be
and we're in our brand new '64 Dodge
November of '63.

November...


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Whippoorwill
Date: 18 Jun 98 - 11:40 AM

Art:
I've been out of touch for a few weeks, and just saw your posting of May 13. That is exactly what I was looking for. My heartfelt thanks - that chorus had been boring into my tiny mind for the last 35 years. And thanks as well for the other good things you've posted.

Whip


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Subject: Lyr Add: ASKING SONG (Tony Townsend)
From: Art Thieme
Date: 12 Jul 98 - 05:51 PM

Whip,

Thanks--glad I helped but it was by accident; I'd forgotten your original song quest! Art (Here's another one.)

ASKING SONG (by Tony Townsend)
Tony Townsend played a club called the Fickle Pickel (Chicago) in the mid 60s---I bought his LP to get this song. Never saw him again...

Asking song we sing of him,
Who joined in battle tyrants grim,
Strong and brave, young and proud,
Shot to death in a friendly crowd,
Gone forever from this earth,
Soul of goodness, heart of worth,
What for us is left behind?
A touch of death for all mankind.

Who determines and who is to know,
Just who's to stay and who's to go?
Who is master, who is he,
Who determines when it's time to sleep?
Why should he who gave so much,
Bear the devil's fatal touch?
Why on earth does evil reign,
When promises become a little game?

How to honor him we knew
Whom one of us in anger slew,
Rize again and vengence fling,
Or struggle on the distant peace to bring,
Down the river now we flow,
Now reluctant but on we go,
We met a man somewhere upstream,
Who gave a hand and left a dream.

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 02 Aug 98 - 06:22 PM

My Kennedy collection is at a possible publisher---even as we speak. Sent off the only copy as I couldn't get it coppied because of copyright problems (nobody would do it here)!
Until later---END OF THREAD---at least for now.


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination & Funeral
From: Sandy E. Dickerson sdi063@airmail.net
Date: 09 Jan 99 - 01:38 AM

I need these tivia questions answered before Sunday p.m..... Please help!!

JFK's Code Name by CIA Jaquelyn's Code Name by CIA Name of Horse in funeral procession with one stirrup over back representing a "fallen leader".

If you can help me pleae send to e=mail address aobve.


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 09 Jan 99 - 11:41 AM

I seem to recall that Big Joe Williams may have written a song about the assassination. I will try and look for this next time I go to the storage room.
All the best,
Dan


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 09 Jan 99 - 02:54 PM

I seem to remember that the name of the horse was BLACKJACK (after Gen. Pershing's nickname).

JFK's codename was something like JAVELIN (or SPEAR or MISSILE)---something like that...

Dan,

BIG JOE, who first gave me the idea for a 9-string guitar, sang his JFK assassination song on the LP I mentioned earlier in this thread (now not a thread, but a ball of string) __CAN'T KEEP FROM CRYING--TOPICAL BLUES ON THE DEATH OF JOHN KENNEDY__ (a CD now). P.S.---I just ordered your CD from Sandy. Truly lookin' forward to hearing it.

Art


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 24 Jan 99 - 12:18 PM

Is the subject of this thread anything less than the facade we're forced to watch being played out in slow motion in the halls of Congress as we speak?

I think not!

I look at both houses of that institution and all I can think of to say is, "ET TU BRUTE"

Art


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: katlaughing
Date: 21 Jul 99 - 11:50 AM

Here ya go, Art. I found it in Forum search with your name as User. I was wondering if anyone was going to do a thread for JFK, Jr. I would love to see the song you mentioned.

love, kat


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE BOY SALUTES (Malvina Reynolds)
From: Art Thieme
Date: 21 Jul 99 - 07:35 PM

Kat & Joe, Thank you! Some day I'll figure out how to do these things. I actually did put my name in & was told the search found nothing... (A doctor once told me the same thing when he looked into my ears!)

Anyhow, this song, "THE BOY SALUTES", was written by Malvina Reynolds.
She wrote "Little Boxes" , "The Battle Of Maxton Field" and many other good songs. From what Pete Seeger has said, her ambition was to write a song a day. And she did that, apparently, until she passed away at a rather advanced age. To those of you too young to understand why this is traumatic to those of us alive when President John sr. was killed, just listen to the words of this song that was printed in __BROADSIDE__, a magazine of topical songs (songs about topics and events rather than "moon, June, croon & spoon"). These singer/songwriters were pretty much writing ballads and songs with the traditional styles as their models.

Issue #37---January 1st, 1964 -- @Schroder Music Co.

Art

The little boy salutes the casket,
On the caisson passing through,
He salutes the nation's flag,
As his daddy taught him to.

Chorus)
There's so much anger in the air,
So many bullets fly,
It's time for love to take a hand,
And love is passing by,
Daddy, goodbye.

The little boy stands on the curb stone,
Where the black horse goes his way,
There is no one in the saddle,
Where a man rode yesterday.

2nd chorus)
There's so much sorrow in the air,
So many tears to dry,
It's time for love to take a hand,
And love is passing by,
Daddy, goodbye.

There's so much grieving in the in the world,
Where the kings and princes go,
And they walk like men in mourning,
And their step is sad and slow.

3rd chorus)The little boy stands on the sidewalk,
The children asking why,
It's time for love to take a hand,
And love is passing by,
Daddy, goodbye.


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 21 Jul 99 - 08:22 PM

WHOOPS!! Seems I already posted "THE BOY SALUTES" a long while back. (sheepishly, "sorry".)

Here'a suggestion: Please look at "God's Game Of Checkers", posted earlier in this thread. It was recorded by Red River Dave McEnery, the composer of "Amelia Earhart's Last Flight" on Bluebonnet Records. It's a "letter of support" from R.R.Dave to the young John jr. following the death of his father.

Art


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Sourdough
Date: 21 Jul 99 - 08:46 PM

Red River Dave wrote a song about a kennedy. It is called "The Ballad of Dike Bridge", The Story of Mary Jo Kopeckne. A friend gave me the sheet musinc back when the song was new-minted. I had just returned from Chappaquidick and had seen, first hand, the roads and the bridge. I have no idea where the sheet music is today. I expect it will bubble to the surface in the ocean of "things" i have collected over the years. This time, I'll grab it!

RR Dave didn't get much coverage of thatsong. He did better with his Ballad of Appolo 11.

Sourdough


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Subject: Lyr Add: THERE'S A NEW MAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE
From: Art Thieme
Date: 21 Jul 99 - 09:26 PM

Here's a song that came out right after John Kennedy jr. was born.

THERE'S A NEW MAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE
by Tepper and Bennett (ABC Paramount 45 rpm record #45-10178)
Art

November 1960 will go down in history,
They danced the jig in Dublin and in Washington D.C.
For a little while there it was nip and tuck,
Now Democrats and Republicans are wishing him good luck.

chorus)
There's a new man in the White House,
And everyone's shouting hip-hooray-ay-ay-ay,
There's a new man in the White House,
And we've got a hunch he's gonna do O.K-E-N-N-E-D-Y

There's going to be some changes made the White House never saw,
That stately hall aint' never seen the likes of him at all,
He's got a way of charming honey from a bee,
He's the pride of the U.S.A. and all his family.

chorus)

He's sitting in the White House on the highest chair of all,
He's going to make us stand up; with our help he'll never fall,
He's the very youngest White House resident,
And begorrah his daddy is the youngest president.

chorus)

There's a new man in the White House,
And everybody's shouting hip-hooray-ay-ay-ay,
For the young man in the White House,
Three cheers for baby John F. Kennedy.


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: katlaughing
Date: 21 Jul 99 - 10:17 PM

Thanks, Art. I was wondering why nobody started a thread about JFK Jr. I didn't because I still held out hope. What a sad, sad thing to have happen. Those poor families. It just doesn't seem fair. His dad was the first president I really was old enough to take an interest in; the day he was killed I almost gave up trying to understand politics and violence, along with a whole lot of other things.

May they all rest in Peace Profound and may Caroline Kennedy stay safe within the bonds of love of her remaining family.

kat


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Subject: Lyr Add: MY DADDY IS PRESIDENT
From: Art Thieme
Date: 21 Jul 99 - 11:11 PM

One more old song from those Camelot years--this time about Caroline Kennedy.--------Art

MY DADDY IS PRESIDENT
as recorded by little Joann Morse

My daddy is president--what does your daddy do?
I live in a big white house on Pennsylvania Avenue,
I always hide behind a desk in daddy's den,
When I play hide-and-seek with Secret Service men.

My daddy is president--we had a busy day,
I'm learning the alphabet---A,B,C,D---J.F.K.
I don't play house--I play the game of government,
'Cause my daddy is the president.

At his first press conference I made news,
Wearing mom's high-heeled shoes,
And every time I'm able,
I'm under the conference table.

My daddy is president---we make a happy pair,
I get to go for my pony rides--he rides in his rocking chair,
No matter what I do it makes a news event,
'Cause my daddy is the president.


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Max
Date: 21 Jul 99 - 11:19 PM

Was Leadbelly's "He is the Man" about JFK?


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 22 Jul 99 - 10:23 AM

An amazing idea, Max! I don't know. Anyone else have an idea ?

Art


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 22 Jul 99 - 10:25 AM

Wait, Leadbelly died in 1948---right? Couldn't've been about JFK. Right?

Art


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 01 Nov 00 - 05:13 PM

refresh


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Subject: Lyr Add: BILLY SOL
From: Art Thieme
Date: 01 Nov 00 - 06:15 PM

Billy Sol
tune: Jay Gould's Daughter
by D. Brooks

From the town of Pecos in the heart of Texas,
Came a mighty operator named Billy Sol Estes,
In a land where manipulation is the thing,
Billy Sol's the undisputed king.

Chorus:
Billy Sol, Billy Sol,
Biggest wheeler dealer of them all.

When he was just a boy the people they did say,
He'll be the greatest future farmer in the U.S.A.
The Chamber of Commerce gave him a big hand,
Said he'd be the best businessman in the land.

Billy Sol studied hard and he soon could see,
Why this is called the land of opportunity,
There are so many things that a man can do,
If he don't mind who he's doin' 'em to.

Well, Billy sol learned; what do ya think of that?
Some men can be bought with a Stetson hat.
Just how many men, only Billy Sol knows,
Will sell themselves for a suit of clothes.

If you really want to be a great capitalist,
Get some fertilizer tanks that don't exist,
And the money comes down like a shower of rain,
If you get contracts to store that government grain.

Set youyrself up with those invisible tanks,
Soon ya got fifty million bucks in nine big banks,
The profits roll in 'cause, as Billy Sol knows,
Many a man can be bought for a suit of clothes.

Some folks failed as Billy wheeled and dealed,
Mr. Marshall is laying dead out in the cotton field,
The coroner said it was suicide,
Five bullets in the back before he died.

Billy farmed the farmers, they were his meat,
He farmed the big city bankers who are hard to beat,
Washington was his very next stop,
And here he planted his biggest crop.

Assistant Labor Secretary Holleman was full of fear,
Of atarving to death on $20,000.00 a year,
So Billy said, "Here, take this thousand dollar bill,
Buy yourself some victuals and eat your fill."

Out onto the floor stepped Senator Yarborough,
Said he always knew Billy as a solid churchgoer,
"When in paying my bills it was getting late,
He put $1,700.00 in my collection plate."

Congressman Anderson has a little coal mine,
Billy thought the mine wasn't much but the stock looks fine,
Gave him $5,000.00 and said to keep the change,
That he'd send him more from back on the range.

Now President Kennedy declared, "What impropriety,
Just when I'vew got so many troubles across the sea,
I've got to fence Billy Boy in without fail,
So I'll put 75 F.B.I. men on his tail.

Now Washington's excited and they're going to invesatigate,
Try to clean up the scandal before it's too late,
But where they'll go God only knows,
Next time they need a new suit of clothes.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

BILLY SOL
by Phil Ochs
tune: "JESSE JAMES"

It was in the year of 1953,
The chamber of commerce took a vote,
They picked ten rising young men and Bill was one of them,
But the government disagreed---and I quote:

Chorus)
Stand tall Billy Sol, we don't know you at all,
Take down those pictures from the wall,
We don't want to handle an agriculture scandal,
We've got to face elections in the Fall.

Billy started out with just one little lamb,
His fortune just grew and grew,
But irregularity in his share of parity,
Came to light and the charges really flew.

J.F.K. denied and Orville Freeman sighed,
He said that everyone around was fair and square,
But he was no more convincin' than Ezra Taft Benson,
As resignations cropped up everywhere.

And now I'd like to say that crime sure doesn't pay,
But if you want to make some money on the sly,
You can always rent -- the U.S. government,
It's the best one that money can buy.


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: GUEST,Gator gone Adirondack...
Date: 02 Nov 00 - 06:43 PM

I'm amazed..... Been into Gordon since '69... (Old Dan's), and Never heard this song.... And I thought I had them all... Goin' back to "Lightfoot" .

How did I miss it,,, And how may I find it???

Thanks!!!


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 02 Nov 00 - 10:10 PM

I don't think Gordon ever recorded it. It was on a 4-song demo 7-inch LP (33 & a third rpm) he sent around to clubs in the later 60s to hustle work. I taped it off that little record----one he had sent to a folk club bar called MOTHER BLUES that was owned by the late great lady, Lorraine Blue. Amazing music was heard in that club.

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Nov 00 - 10:47 PM

Who are (Theordore)Sorenson, (Pierre) Salinger, (Adlai)Stevenson, (Arthur) Schlesinger, (McGeorge) Bundy and (?) Dillon and (Dean)Rusk????

E'er late than ne'er, Art! (Who is Dillon?)

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: MarkS
Date: 02 Nov 00 - 11:58 PM

Probably C.Douglas Dillon, the Secretary of the Treasury.

The rest were cabinet members and advisors. Together with luninaries like MacNamara they made up the Best and the Brightest and gave us the Vietman war.

Guess I'm really showing my age. More trivia - what was the first name of McGeorge Bundys brother?
MarkS


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: GUEST,paddy
Date: 03 Nov 00 - 12:03 AM

God Almighty, let the poor man rest. He wasn't that great of a president (even less of a man) after all.


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 03 Nov 00 - 01:18 AM

YES, all members of the cabinet during the reign of J.F.K.

Folks, I am still looking for songs about the life, times and assassination of John Kennedy. The collection is now at the Library of Congress but my search goes on. The two songs I just posted here on Billy Sol Estes were asked for in another thread but digging those two out gave me a chance to revive this old thread. One never knows what might turn up.

Thanks again. If nothing else comes of this I'll revive this thread yet again..........in another year-------or so...

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: rube1
Date: 03 Nov 00 - 06:10 AM

Here's one for you, "Right on Houston" by White Self Existing Dog. Great song, great video at the Incredibly Small Concert Hallhttp://www.smallhall.com/WSEDog/dindex.html I'm not so good at links so you might have to search it out.

He turned right on Houston Should have just kept going But he turned left on Elm Cause he had no way of knowing ...


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: mkebenn
Date: 03 Nov 00 - 08:17 AM

MarcB, As I remember, Phil Ochs was attacked in South Africa during a robbery. His vocal chords were damaged so badly that he could no longer sing and that is why he took his own life. I've got to believe that given the great volume of work he created he must have gotten over the "Dylan" thing.

Clack, Clack, Clack John Stewart, from "Willard"

Clack, Clack, Clack, as the train goes rollin' down the track to carry me home, back where I belong.{repete}

That was Bobby's song that I wrote without thinking,every word, every word. Now that Bobby's gone, this is my world crying when I heard, when I heard.

Newbie member, Mike Bennett


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 03 Nov 00 - 03:34 PM

Mike,

John Stewart was traveling with Bobby Kennedy and singing songs to push his candidacy. I saw him at a rally for Bobby in Newport, Oregon--on the coast. Bobby lost that primary to m' man Eugene McCarthy. One week later, Bobby was murdered in Los Angeles.

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 28 Jul 02 - 11:59 AM

REFRESH for Greg Stevens


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 29 Jul 02 - 09:33 AM

Despite the "Refresh" above, this thread has moved on!
please post new messages to This Thread.







New messages to This Thread


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 17 Dec 03 - 01:21 AM

refrsh

For the folks interested in this topic who only know the other short thread.

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: GUEST,whitelf2000
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 06:34 PM

I'm looking for a song about the death of JFK and it goes like this:

On Nov 22 1963, a sunny day in TX in a town they call big D
a man was killed and changed the entire course of history, his
name was John Fitzgerald Kennedy......

can someone help me with this song

tks


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Subject: Lyr Add: NOVEMBER 22ND 1963 (Tom T Hall)
From: Art Thieme
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 12:59 PM

The song you are looking for was written by TOM T. HALL. Here are the words as sung and recorded by Jimmy Newman.

November 22nd, 1963

When you sing this song be brave and sing it loud and strong and clear,
John F. Kennedy was not a man to ever speak in fear,
Pick up the flag, march on in peace and pray that there will be
More men like John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

On November 22nd, nineteen-hundred-sixty-three,
A sunny day in Texas in a town they call Big D,
A man was killed who changed the course of history,
His name was John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

He was riding in a motorcade that sad and fateful day,
Mrs. Connelley turned to him with a voice so proud and gay,
She pointed out that people here had treated him real nice,
Minutes later bullets took his precious life.

Mrs. Kennedy cried, "O, no." and she caught him as he fell,
What the world lost at that moment only history can tell,
They rushed him to the hospital---took five minutes on the way,
As the word flashed 'round the world to stop and pray.

It was over in just minutes; John F. Kennedy was dead,
Disbelief, shock and sorrow; the people bowed their heads,
Mrs. Kennedy stood by him as the tears came to her eyes,
Put her ring upon his hand and then kissed him goodbye.

The pens of man will scribble on in sad futility,
Perhaps a paragraph or two will touch reality,
John Kennedy was proud and brave and his story has been told,
May his home be blessed and may God rest his soul.

Sing the first verse once more.

Art Thieme--I hope this helps you out.


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Subject: Need help with a Kennedy song
From: GUEST,cmh
Date: 31 May 04 - 12:41 AM

My father part-recorded a song from the tv coverage of Bobby Kennedy's funeral that was shown in Australia. I've never been able to track down either the songwriter or the title and I don't know whether it was originally written for JFK or RFK or was a folk song adapted for the occasion. My Dad reckons it is by Tom Paxton. I don't think so, although I understand that Paxton played "Outward Bound" for a CBS memorial for Robert Kennedy. Anyway, here's the fragment I recall:

Where then lay you down
On a hillside by the town
Some may say goodbye, they will
But I know your heart is beating still

Can someone help me out here? I've been trying to track this down for over 20 years.


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 31 May 04 - 05:18 PM

Anniversary of Bobby's death on Friday - June 4TH.

I hope that song turns up. And I'm also curious about any songs written about Bobby Kennedy's assassination.


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Subject: Lyr Add: WELL THEN, LAY YOU DOWN
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 31 May 04 - 10:03 PM

Dear CMH,

It seems rather fitting that this is Memorial Day here in the USA. Many of us then alive hated to see Robert Kennedy pick up the torch where his brother had put it down. It seemed to be tempting fate.

There is a photo I took of Robert Kennedy and his wife Ethel campaigning in the town of Newport, Oregon in the primary -- 1968--on the site with all my other mostly folk scene photos I've taken over the last four decades. Go to:

http://rudegnu.com/art_thieme.html

The song you are looking for actually was written by Tom Paxton. It is called

WELL THEN, LAY YOU DOWN

Ah, you knew it had to come,
One more day of muffled drums,
You knew it, ah, you had to know,
And still your courage told you, "Go."

(chorus)
Well then, lay you down,
On your hillside by the town,
Some will say farewell, they will,
I think that heart is beating still.

Ah, you knew how this would end,
You made the friendless man your friend,
We knew the danger and told you so,
And still your courage told you, "Go."

Now they've wrapped the train in black,
Gathered along the railroad track,
You knew it, ah, you had to know,
And still your courage told you, "Go."

When the truly brave man dies,
Thousands more will surely rise,
You knew it, ah, you had to know,
Their courage too will tell them, "Go."


(Art Thieme


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Subject: Lyr Add: SECONDS and GLAD I'M NOT A KENNEDY
From: GUEST,CMH
Date: 01 Jun 04 - 10:49 PM

Art,
You're a godsend. Do you happen to know whether Paxton ever recorded Lay You Down? In thanks, let me add to this thread's impressive collection of lyrics.

The first song is called "Seconds" by a UK 1980s group, Human League:

All day
Hiding from the sun
Waiting for the golden one
Waiting for your fame
After the parade has gone

Outside was a happy place
Every face had a smile like the golden face
For a second
Your knuckles white as your fingers curl
The shot that was heard around the world
For a second

Refrain :

It took seconds of your time to take his life
It took seconds

(Refrain)

It took seconds of your time to take his life
It took seconds of your time to take his life
Seconds
Seconds

(Refrain twice)

For a second

(Refrain twice)

For a second

It took seconds of your time to take his life
Seconds of your time to take his life
For a second
For a second
For a second


The second song was a big hit in Australia and New Zealand in the 1985. It interweaved lyrics with extracts of JFK speeches quite well. The music video featuring JFK footage was also popular.

It was called "Glad I'm Not a Kennedy" by Shona Laing, a New Zealander:

Living on through politics
Body-guarded, heart in bits
A blue-eyed honesty
Indigo injury
The family tree is felled
Bereavement worn so well
Giving up on certainty
Wilderness society

Wearing the fame like a loaded gun
Tied up with a rosary
I'm glad I'm not a Kennedy

Imagine being a Kennedy
Rule without remedy
To watch your family die
The world loves a sacrifice
Prophets longing for the three
Honouring the tragedy
They hunger for the crime
The privilege to take a life

Wearing the fame like a loaded gun
Tied up with a rosary
Ooh, I'm glad I'm not a Kennedy

...and is not peace basically
A matter of human rights?
The right to live out our lives
Without fear of devastation?
The right to breathe air
As nature provided it?
The right of future generations
To a healthy existence?
Let us if we can step back from
The shadows of war and seek out
The way of peace...

I love the look in your eyes
I can see your soul sometimes and we laugh
When we try too hard we stop and start
Oh imagine being a Kennedy
I'm glad I'm not a Kennedy

Wearing the fame like a loaded gun
Tied up with a rosary
I'm glad I'm not a Kennedy

Imagine being a Kennedy
Ooh I'm glad I'm not a Kennedy

...the cost of freedom is always high,
Yet one path we shall never choose
- that is the path of surrender or submission.
When a man's way please the lord,
The scriptures tell us,
'He maketh even his enemies
To be at peace with him'.
We will not prematurely or unnecessarily
Risk the course of worldwide nuclear war
In which even the fruits of victory
Would be ashes in our mouths
Ashes in our mouths...
Ashes in our mouths...
Ashes in our mouths...

Regards
CMH


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 02 Jun 04 - 05:41 PM

UMH,

Thanks so much for those songs. I'd never seen them before. The collection just keeps on growing. ----------- And a big thank you to those who have found other songs on JFK that I'd not heard. Now that I cannot drive or travel much I don't get around to look for these real documents. But the www has made it possible for me to keep on keepin' on with it. I wish I could figure out a way to selectively print out songs and portions of these threads. Whenever I try to do that my printer seems to think I want it to print EVERYTHING-- and it's almost impossible to get it to quit without a hot shutdown. Once I was told to highlight the thing I want to print first---but that doesn't seem to work for me.---- Oh, well, that's life.

By the way, the whole basic main collection is now at the LIBRARY OF CONGRESS ARCHIVE OF FOLK CULTURE. It looks like I'll definitely have to update that.

Again, thanks !!!

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Jun 04 - 05:54 PM

When I want to print anything from the threads, I highlight it, copy it, and then paste it in Word, or something, and print from that.
...................

But I find it strange in a way that there seem to be so few songs about Bobby's assassination than John's. There was a sort of dramatic inevitability about the event that gave it the feeling of a borde ballad.


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 09:12 PM

McGrath, Hello--

Yes, there really is that much difference between the man in the office of president of the USA and one who just wants that post. It's like the Queen Bee as opposed to just a very good worker bee. And it is also very difficult to imagine the very real affection Americans felt for JFK----especially now---after Nixon and Watergate, and Johnson and Viet Nam, and Reaganomics, and Bush's assault on the things that made others look up to American ideals -- if not Americans. And the monumentally huge and insane mob action onslaught of people who crucified Bill Clinton just for sayin', "No, dad, I never had sex with her." But there really was a huge spontaneous outpouring of emotion that people needed to "get out"---and so all these songs. Bobby was promise---but JFK was like having Cary Grant in the White House. (That's interesting---another Kerry !!! History DOES repeat I guess. It just costs twice as much every time around.) ;-) Bobby did have promise---but he was no John Kennedy.

Art


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 01:10 PM

Two myths in play here - one is the King who is killed after victory. The other is the Hero who is defeated on the eve of victory.

Agammemnon or Achilles.


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: GUEST,Mark Anthony
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 03:33 PM

Just read through the thread from 1997. Very,very interesting.
Art Thieme has done a great job!
My favorite JFK song (so far anyway) is the "Children of the New Frontier" by John Stewart.
Aside from "Can't Keep from Crying" are there any other JFK related song compilations?

Thanks,

Mark


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: GUEST,Eric
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 02:52 PM

John Stewart's Last Campaign album is themed around Bobby Kennedy - it is a putting together a lot of John's songs which were influenced by his time on the road with RFK in the 1968 campaign as well as the one he wrote just after the assassination [Clack, Clack]. There are some great songs there. For more info on John look at http://www.bitemyfoot.co.uk.

Eric


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 08 Aug 04 - 01:14 AM

Thanks to you all for the insights.


Art


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 22 Nov 04 - 09:05 PM

Nov. 22, 1963

REFRESH


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Peace
Date: 22 Nov 04 - 09:43 PM

Good one, Art. Thank you.


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Jan 05 - 12:17 AM

Hello

I seach any information where I could find the song "November 22nd, 1963" by Jimmy Newman (Art Thieme posted the lyrics above). I searched the web and several record shops. I know it was on a compilation album. But I have no more informations. Can somebody please help ?

Thanx in advance


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 25 Jan 05 - 07:44 PM

We are about to move and my Kennedy songs collection and allied materials are all packed up. I'm not sure when I'll be getting to 'em again. A copy of the whole thing is available at the U.S. Library Of Congress--Washington D.C.---in the Archive Of Folk Culture (formerly The Archive Of Folk Song). Sorry--for now.

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 09:41 PM

Folks,

I'm looking for lyrics to a JFK assassination song I remember, but which I don't see here.

It was on a 45 RPM record we had when I was a kid, so I'm thinking it had to be from the 60's or maybe early 70's.

it pronounced out "On November twenty-second, Ninteen-hundred sixty-three..."

I remember the words, "...slayer's bullet took his precious life."

I'm trying to remember more to nail it down, but I just have these bits and pieces.

Anyone know an artist and title?

Thanks!


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 10:51 PM

It sounds very familiar, but we are still packed up. I'll get to the collection eventually.

Art


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 12:46 AM

refresh


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: KenBrock
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 10:48 AM

"The Warmth of the Sun" was written by Brian Wilson because of the JFK assassination, though it is not mentioned, and recorded by The Beach Boys. It is about the loss of a friend.

The Kingston Trio changed the setting of "Big Ball in Town" from Nashville to Boston (adding a pretty good JFK impersonation), in celebration of the JFK inaugural.


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 11:02 AM

I have a signed autograph of JFK an original..Is it worth much ..


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 11:05 AM

sorry it should have read..a letter from his secretary..also signed by JFK..plus a colour photograph also signed by jfk


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Louie Roy
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 09:41 PM

It has been a long time since November the 22nd 1963.At that time Iwas the Elected State Chaplain of the Veterans Of foreign Wars and I got a letter from President Johnson for all Chaplains of the Veterans of foreign wars to have a special tribute or program honoring this PresidentI did put together some inspiring words and I had the State Department Commander to call a special meeting of the Department Council members and we did honor John Fitzgerald Kennnedy witht the proper ceremony.I also sent this memorial to a Natiomal Orginiziation and was awarded $600.00 for the best memorial or essay that was submitted.I will not bore the members of something I wrote 43 years ago.I also have the book honoring him called the Passing Of The Torch Plus and 2 different Newspapers with all the gory details.Louie Roy


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 11:50 PM

Louie Roy,

A very nice remembrance. Like the individual songs, you have shown us another glimpse into those times.

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Louie Roy
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 01:23 PM

Than you Art for the kind words.I remember where I was at and what I was doing when I first heard the news about JFK.I'm sure at least 95% of every man woman or child who was alive that day also remember where they were and what they were doing.It was hard for us to believe that such a tragity could occurr in this great country,but that just shows even today we all live under an allusion


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 10:01 PM

refresh


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Little Robyn
Date: 23 Nov 06 - 02:19 PM

Most people remember where they were and what they were doing when they heard the news.
I heard a song about this a few years back (I think Debbie Gillanders sang it but I can't find it on tape).
It covered things that were happening at the time, when she was just a kid, but her memories were different from other people's memories.
She couldn't figure out how that was, until she realised that the Kennedy she'd heard about was actually Bobby, while everyone else was talking about John.
I don't know where Debbie is these days, to ask her about it.
Robyn


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Nov 06 - 02:26 PM

I remember both of them. Like it was yesterday.


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Janie
Date: 23 Nov 06 - 09:19 PM

We were talking about this at work yesterday. One person compared the national shock and horror as matched only by that of 9/11. I think I agree.

The assassination of a national leader today would not cause nearly as strong a reaction....an understandable but sad comment on how our perception of ourselves and our society have changed. We probably have a more realistic view of ourselves as a nation. It has made us cynical.

Janie


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 09 May 07 - 11:37 PM

Here are some murder ballads.

Art


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: GUEST,Mike B.
Date: 10 May 07 - 01:30 AM

I think Steve Gillette wrote a song focusing on the conspiracy theories surrounding the assassination - can't recall the title, however.


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: GUEST,Waco Jacko
Date: 10 May 07 - 03:29 AM

British heavy rock band Saxon, recorded "Dallas 1pm" which was a stand out track (and great riff) at their live shows.


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Subject: Lyr Add: IN THE SUMMER OF HIS YEARS
From: GUEST,edthefolkie
Date: 10 May 07 - 07:08 AM

Don't know if Art is still looking at this thread....

One of the early postings is the Herbert Kretzmer/Dave Lee song "In The Summer Of His Years" which Millicent Martin performed on the BBC's TW3 the weekend of JFK's assassination. The song stuck in my mind and I was sure there was another verse. A trawl of the Web revealed a fuller version:

A young man rode with his head held high,
Under the Texas sun,
And no one guessed,
That a man so blessed,
Would perish by the gun,
Lord, would perish by the gun.

A shot rang out like a Southern shout,
And Heaven held its breath,
For the dream of a multitude of men
Rode with him to his death
Lord, rode with him to his death

Yes, the heart of the world weighed heavy
With the helplessness of tears
For the man cut down in a Texas town
In the summer of his years
In the summer of his years

And we who stay mustn't ever lose,
The victories that he's won,
For wherever "man" looks to Freedom's past,
His soul goes riding on,
Lord, his soul goes riding on!

Apparently Connie Francis and Mahalia Jackson and others recorded versions of this song and it's on a BBC album somewhere too. ALL the versions I can find are different - folk process again.

Ed


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 10 May 07 - 10:24 AM

Guest Edith Folk,
I do remember that verse. Actually I taped the song off USA TV when the "That Was The Week That Was" program was shown on American TV. I remember David Frost being the host.

Art


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: GUEST,edthefolkie
Date: 10 May 07 - 11:18 AM

I was 16 when JFK was shot so was at an impressionable age.

Lots of us at our rather staid school used to watch TW3 every week - it was like a breath of fresh air, along with Dylan, the Beatles etc, and was required viewing. So when the programme started that Saturday night (it was live by the way)we all expected them to speak for us - and they did.

Kretzmer and Lee must have written that lyric and tune extremely quickly - it still stands up today, which is remarkable. I know Millicent Martin was nearly overcome with tears when she had to sing it.

I don't care about all the dirt which has (supposedly) been unearthed about JFK since his death - the world was a much worse place after he went; a lot of hopes died with him.

Ed


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 10 May 07 - 07:52 PM

Aye, you are correct. I lost a bunch of my youth that day.
And now I see that it wasn't Edith Fowke---it was Ed The Folk. I see the pun of things even when it's not there. My cross to bare.

Just a thought: What is worse, Kennedy acting out sexually, as we all did in the '60s because that's the way things went down then. Why? Because we could, and it was fun.

And there was no HIV. It was a whole other ethic. To judge it from here and now seems a bit insane. Things are what they are at any given point in history. Endure it all, be glad it didn't kill you, and move on.

So there!

Art


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Jack Campin
Date: 10 May 07 - 09:18 PM

Somebody remind me what the anti-Polaris song was that Folkways wouldn't include on their LP because it attacked Kennedy?

Some of us were not particularly grieved to see the comeuppance of a overprivileged trigger-happy nutter who had presided over the invasion of Vietnam and came within a hairsbreadth of turning the earth into a radioactive hell.


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: GUEST,Ken Brock
Date: 11 May 07 - 10:25 AM

I think the Beatles "I Am the Walrus" should be considered, because of the dialogue from Act IV, Scene 6 of King Lear that is heard during the fadeout:

OSWALD

    Slave, thou hast slain me: villain, take my purse:
    If ever thou wilt thrive, bury my body;
    And give the letters which thou find'st about me
    To Edmund earl of Gloucester; seek him out
    Upon the British party: O, untimely death!

    Dies

EDGAR

    I know thee well: a serviceable villain;
    As duteous to the vices of thy mistress
    As badness would desire.

GLOUCESTER

    What, is he dead?

EDGAR

    Sit you down, father; rest you


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Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Art Thieme
Date: 23 Nov 07 - 09:52 PM

refish for anniversary of the deed


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs about the Kennedy assassination
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Nov 10 - 08:29 PM

there was a song about Bobby in the 60's, i dont know the title but
some of the verses was, sock it to me Bobby; sock it to me Bobby if you have any info. on this song would you please shear it with me   

                                     thanks a lot
                                           Don
                                  my email address bigd44@windstream.net


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Subject: "In The Summer Of His Years" - Mahalia Jackson
From: Genie
Date: 22 Nov 10 - 09:02 PM

Here's "The Summer Of His Years" sung by Mahalia Jackson.

I really liked the Chad Mitchell Trio recording, but this one is much, much more haunting.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs about the Kennedy assassination
From: Effsee
Date: 22 Nov 10 - 10:15 PM

Subject: RE: Kennedy Assassination
From: Jack Campin - PM
Date: 10 May 07 - 09:18 PM

Some of us were not particularly grieved to see the comeuppance of a overprivileged trigger-happy nutter who had presided over the invasion of Vietnam and came within a hairsbreadth of turning the earth into a radioactive hell.


Jack, you're assessment of Kennedy's policy does not stand up to historical evidence. It would seem more likely that his assasination was because of his policy of withdrawal from Vietnam.
I know it's 3 years since your last comment...but times move on eh?


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Subject: Lyr Add: HOMENAJE A JOHN F. KENNEDY (Jose Morante)
From: TonyA
Date: 22 Nov 10 - 10:38 PM

HOMENAJE A JOHN F. KENNEDY
by Jose Morante, of the conjunto band Los Conquistadores, of San Antonio.

(JFK was serenaded in San Antonio the day before he died, and this song was written immediately after his death. Morante was born in 1918, recorded on Bluebird in the mid-30's, later on Decca, Columbia, Ideal, and his own Norteņo label. The recording of this song was re-issued as part of the 1976 12-LP album "Folk Music in America" issued by the Library of Congress.)

Como homenaje sincero, canto su vida y su muerte,
del hombre que el mundo llora, porque fue un gran Presidente.
Kennedy tuvo la dicha de demonstrar su valor
en la guerra que pasara el aņo cuarenta y dos.
Fue commandante de un barco en las islas del Oriente.
nunca soņaba que un dia podria a ser el Presidente.
Anduvo por todo el mundo. No hubo enemigo capaz
de atentar contra su vida de este gigante de paz.
En la Alemania cautiva, sobre el cercado se vio,
brindarle un gran homenaje por la esperanza que dio.
Mexico le abrio sus brazos como a ninguno jamas.
Kennedy hizo justicia, regresando el Chamizal.
Kennedy se vino a Texas, y a San Antonio llego;
entre homenajes y fiestas el pueblo lo cautivo.
Iba por Austin y Houston a saludar su nacion,
porque era grande de todo, sobrado de corazon.
El ventidos de noviembre no se me podra olvidar,
porque sin causa o razones su destino fue fatal.
En Dallas se le esperaba, lo grand de la ocasion
nunca hubo presentimiento de una horrorosa traicion.
En su carro iba su esposa y el seņor Gobernador;        
los dos iban saludando cuando un balazo, se oyo.
Alzo los brazos al cielo, sin saber que le pego;
se oyo otra bala certera, y el Presidente cayo.
Su fiel esposa al momento con su cuerpo lo cubrio,
y al senor Gobernador la otra bala le pego.
Esta es la historia mas negra que al mundo entero enluto,
cuando la vida de un grande un aesino trunco.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs about the Kennedy assassination
From: GUEST,November 22nd, 1963
Date: 20 May 13 - 10:53 PM

Please someone tell me who recorded this song?

When you sing this song be brave and sing it loud and strong and clear,
John F. Kennedy was not a man to ever speak in fear,
Pick up the flag, march on in peace and pray that there will be
More men like John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

On November 22nd, nineteen-hundred-sixty-three,
A sunny day in Texas in a town they call Big D,
A man was killed who changed the course of history,
His name was John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

He was riding in a motorcade that sad and fateful day,
Mrs. Connally turned to him with a voice so proud and gay,
She pointed out that people here had treated him real nice,
Minutes later bullets took his precious life.

Mrs. Kennedy cried, "O, no." and she caught him as he fell,
What the world lost at that moment only history can tell,
They rushed him to the hospital---took five minutes on the way,
As the word flashed 'round the world to stop and pray.

It was over in just minutes; John F. Kennedy was dead,
Disbelief, shock and sorrow; the people bowed their heads,
Mrs. Kennedy stood by him as the tears came to her eyes,
Put her ring upon his hand and then kissed him goodbye.

The pens of man will scribble on in sad futility,
Perhaps a paragraph or two will touch reality,
John Kennedy was proud and brave and his story has been told,
May his home be blessed and may God rest his soul.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs about the Kennedy assassination
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 21 May 13 - 12:14 AM

G'day

Art Thieme posted it (Date: 18 Mar 04 - 12:59 PM) well up above The song you are looking for. It was written by TOM T. HALL. Here are the words as sung and recorded by Jimmy Newman.

November 22nd, 1963

When you sing this song be brave and sing it loud and strong and clear,
John F. Kennedy was not a man to ever speak in fear,
Pick up the flag, march on in peace and pray that there will be
More men like John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

On November 22nd, nineteen-hundred-sixty-three,
A sunny day in Texas in a town they call Big D,
A man was killed who changed the course of history,
His name was John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

He was riding in a motorcade that sad and fateful day,
Mrs. Connelley turned to him with a voice so proud and gay,
She pointed out that people here had treated him real nice,
Minutes later bullets took his precious life.

Mrs. Kennedy cried, "O, no." and she caught him as he fell,
What the world lost at that moment only history can tell,
They rushed him to the hospital---took five minutes on the way,
As the word flashed 'round the world to stop and pray.

It was over in just minutes; John F. Kennedy was dead,
Disbelief, shock and sorrow; the people bowed their heads,
Mrs. Kennedy stood by him as the tears came to her eyes,
Put her ring upon his hand and then kissed him goodbye.

The pens of man will scribble on in sad futility,
Perhaps a paragraph or two will touch reality,
John Kennedy was proud and brave and his story has been told,
May his home be blessed and may God rest his soul.

Sing the first verse once more.

Art Thieme--I hope this helps you out

Regards,

BobB


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