Neil Young's Thought ft Day - July 31,2000

Subject: Neil Young's Thought ft Day - July 31,00
From: Peter T.
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 10:01 AM

"I just didn't like people telling me what to do. I didn't like people telling me if I made more records like Harvest I would be successful. That's when I came up with the concept of destrpying what I had created in order to move on. I wanted to do what I called audio verite.

"At a certain point trained, accomplished musicians -- hit the wall. They don't go there very often, they don't have the tools to go through the wall, because it's the end of notes. It's the other side, where there's only tone, sound, ambience, landscape, earthquakes, pictures, fireworks, the sky opening, buildings falling, subways collapsing ....When you go through the wall, the music takes on that kind of atmosphere, and it doesn't translate the way other music translates. When you get to the other side, you can't go back. I don't know too many musicians who try to go through the wall. I love to go through the wall."

(from the Sunday New York Times Magazine, July 30, 00, article on Neil Young).

Subject: RE: Neil Young's Thought ft Day - July 31,00
From: SINSULL
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 10:07 AM

Sounds a little "off the wall" to me. What am I missing here?

Subject: RE: Neil Young's Thought ft Day - July 31,00
From: Giac
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 10:27 AM

Reinforces the apt naming of the NYCFTTS.

Subject: RE: Neil Young's Thought ft Day - July 31,00
From: GUEST,Steve Latimer
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 10:51 AM

'Spaw?

Subject: RE: Neil Young's Thought ft Day - July 31,00
From: JenEllen
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 11:24 AM

Sounds just like my favorite street person in Seattle. He doesn't talk, his sock-puppet is the panhandler, the man is just the vehicle.

Poor, poor Neil! When is he gonna learn it's not a hole in the wall, it's just a fake train tunnel painted there by some wiley coyote????

~Elle (who understands the ends of notes)

Subject: RE: Neil Young's Thought ft Day - July 31,00
From: Patrish(inactive)
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 11:44 AM

The wall in marathon running is about 18 miles. Its go through or collapse. Artistic walls are not so clearly defined - perhaps its easier to stay within acceptable limits - keep the punters happy? Is something I dont think I will ever have to worry about. Harvest is one of my favourite albums. I would not complain if he did another one similar. It may be his version of "to thy oneself be true" Who knows?
Patrish

Subject: RE: Neil Young's Thought ft Day - July 31,00
From: Willie-O
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 12:28 PM

Spaw is right--he's one crazed focker! But Mr Young is also dead on in a loonybin sort of way. I think that sums up why he's still an interesting character.

He does say you can't go back again...and when he did the album with "Harvest Moon" on it a couple of years ago, it seemed that was what he was doing. I thought it came up really lame, while all the radio types were gushing about how he'd returned to his "Harvest" roots.

Guess you can't fault him for being contradictory. A guy who supported Ronald Reagan and then Jesse Jackson for US president -- because they were both "interesting" -- is pretty much above such considerations.

W-O

Subject: RE: Neil Young's Thought ft Day - July 31,00
From: catspaw49
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 12:57 PM

uh....yeah.........

Neil will be reporting back in at the Center for another round of treatment soon.

Truthfully, I kinda' have an understanding of what he's talking about a lot of the time, and the things he has done on a family level are admirable. In different ways, he and I have some things in common. Both of us tend to live out where the buses don't run.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Neil Young's Thought ft Day - July 31,00
From: bob jr
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 01:07 PM

the fact that neil young followed harvest with an expensive and awful double album (journey through the past) shows more of a keen eye towards commercialism than he probably would like to admit hence he redefines his own history....as in "oh journey through the past was me getting way out there blah blah blah" but it is one of the more unfortuante things he has done foisting that turkey on his fans right after one of his biggest selling albums,it was a crass crass move and hard (i would say impossible) for neil to defend,i think of this move everytime i hear this notes for you and think to myself"yeah neil some sing for pepsi and some sing for coke and some dont even care about suckering in their own fans and that makes them better?" oh well i still like him

Subject: RE: Neil Young's Thought ft Day - July 31,00
From: Jim the Bart
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 01:24 PM

It seems that love and genius means you never have to say you're sorry. And being a complete a**hole means the same thing. So who's which? You figure it out. And if you get it wrong, the line to apologize is on the right. And Neil isn't in it.

And, kids, if you're gonna bust through any walls remember to wear a helmet. And clean underwear.

Subject: RE: Neil Young's Thought ft Day - July 31,00
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 01:49 PM

Some well trained and gifted jazz musicians, like Coltrane, seemed to have dedicated their careers to pushing against the wall...searching for a crack to

Subject: RE: Neil Young's Thought ft Day - July 31,00
From: Jeri
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 02:09 PM

There are those who find success with one particular thing, and keep doing it the same way for the rest of their lives. They're afraid any change they make won't be accepted by their fans, and they'll lose popularity. Others go to the other extreme, and rebel against expectations simply to rebel. They don't really have a plan, but if all those people like them, they must be doing some sort of selling out. They're as contolled by popularity as those stuck in a rut. The wisest people I know discover what they really want to do, not what others are pushing them toward or away from.

Subject: RE: Neil Young's Thought ft Day - July 31,00
From: SINSULL
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 02:11 PM

Yeah, Guest. Miles searched for the crack, too. And pushed against the wall. Sometimes I think he made it through. Always reaching one step beyond...

Subject: RE: Neil Young's Thought ft Day - July 31,00
From: wysiwyg
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 05:39 PM

But what does he think about Nature??

Bait and switch here or what? *G*

~S~

Subject: RE: Neil Young's Thought ft Day - July 31,00
From: M
Date: 01 Aug 00 - 04:40 PM

I think Neil is right on the money! It certainly describes what he does musically alot of the time. And its true--how many musicians stick with the same old thing? How many actually progress past whatever that form is? Art is the same way. Imagine if Picasso kept cranking out the same ol' "blue period" stuff? I would personally hate to have what I produced 10 years ago be expected of me now. Go Neil.