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Lyr Req: Past Three O'Clock (and a Cold Frosty...)
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Subject: Past 12 o'clock and a fine frosty mornin From: GUEST,winterbright Date: 31 Jul 00 - 07:28 PM Help! Has anyone ever heard a song that starts out, "Past twelve o'clock and a fine frosty morning..." That's all I retain; heard it on an albumn back in the early 60's and can only remember that it was by a choral group. Lovely song... wish I could find it! Does it ring a bell with ANYBODY??? |
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Subject: RE: Past 12 o'clock and a fine frosty mornin From: GUEST,Bruce O. Date: 31 Jul 00 - 08:05 PM I don't know what the original song is unless its that by Colley Cibber in his ballad opera 'Flora', 1729, but the simplified tune there had already been printed under Scots and Irish Gaelic titles. Cibber's song commences" 'Twas past twelve o'clock on a fine summer morning". Robert Burns had a hand in fitting verses to the tune in 'The Scots Musical Museum', #227 (1790), and his song starts: 'Twas past ane o clock in a cauld frosty morning". Just how much of the song is by Burns seems to be unknown. For many copies of the tune under English and Gaelic titles see "I am asleep and don't waken me" in the Irish tune index on my website. [A late song by Hector MacNeill, "Jeannie's Black E'ne" uses the Gaelic title as the burden of his verses. It's in the Scarce Songs 1 file on my website, listed in Mudcat's Links.] |
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Subject: RE: Past 12 o'clock and a fine frosty mornin From: Helen Date: 31 Jul 00 - 08:21 PM Hi winterbright, We used to sing this one in school choir, about 30 years ago. I have it in the book we used for choir. It's called The Waits or Past Three O'clock to the tune of London Waits from the time of Charles II. The words are by J. Oxenford.
Past three o'clock! Our teacher told us that the Waits were the people who walked around the streets at night calling out the time, or the practice of doing this, before everyone had clocks in their houses. There are 2 other verses which I can type in if you want them. Helen |
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Subject: RE: Past 12 o'clock and a fine frosty mornin From: GUEST,Bruce O. Date: 31 Jul 00 - 08:24 PM Jame Dick (Songs of Robert Burns) said the verses in 'Flora', 1729, were by Cibber (Colley or Theophilus?), but the ballad opera is by John Hippisley. The rudimentary version of the tune is also in Charles Coffey's 'The Beggars Wedding', 1729, under the English title. |
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Subject: RE: Past 12 o'clock and a fine frosty mornin From: Musicman Date: 31 Jul 00 - 10:10 PM nice version of the song on the chieftans "Bells of dublin album.... |
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Subject: RE: Past 12 o'clock and a fine frosty mornin From: Giac Date: 31 Jul 00 - 10:34 PM Thanks for this info. Had wondered about the "Past three o'clock ..." version since hearing it in a Steve Martin movie, "Simple Twist of Fate." It is a lovely tune. And, yes, Helen, I for one would like to have the other two verses. |
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Subject: RE: Past 12 o'clock and a fine frosty mornin From: Helen Date: 01 Aug 00 - 08:58 PM Hi again, Here is the midi file of the tune, using Alan Foster's Midi to Text programme.
MIDI file: waits.mid Timebase: 192 Name: The Waits (Past Three O'Clock) This program is worth the effort of learning it. To download the March 10 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here ABC format: X:1
Here are verses 2 & 3 from a book called Sing Care Away, Book 1, published by Novello & Co, in about 1964.
2. Past three o'clock!
Past three o'clock!
3. Past three o'clock!
Past three o'clock! Helen |
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Subject: RE: Past 12 o'clock and a fine frosty mornin From: Wolfgang Date: 02 Aug 00 - 06:55 AM link to an old thread with lyrics and midi to Past Three A Clock. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: Past 12 o'clock and a fine frosty mornin From: Helen Date: 10 Aug 00 - 08:53 PM refresh, also see this thread http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=24224&messages=6 for an example of a tune which is called "London Waits" and the song written for the tune is called "The Waits" or "Past three o'clock" Helen |
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Subject: RE: Past 12 o'clock and a fine frosty mornin From: Helen Date: 10 Aug 00 - 08:55 PM Sorry about that - posted the last message in the wrong thread. The blicky is right though. It refers to another thread discussing the Waits Helen |
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Subject: RE: Past 12 o'clock and a fine frosty mornin From: Bill D Date: 10 Aug 00 - 11:20 PM there is complex 4-part round that concludes: "past 12 o'clock, and a starlight morning" |
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Subject: Lyr Add: PAST THREE O'CLOCK From: Jim Dixon Date: 25 Nov 09 - 12:11 AM From The Progressive Music Series: For Basal Use in Primary, Intermediate and Grammar Grades, Book 3, by Horatio William Parker et al. (Sacramento: California State Printing Department, 1922), page 6: [With musical notation for one voice.] PAST THREE O'CLOCK James Fortescue – English Folk Song 1. Past three o'clock, and a cold, frosty morning: Past three o'clock, good morrow masters all. While in your beds you're peacefully sleeping, Under the stars our watch we are keeping. Past three o'clock, and a cold, frosty morning: Past three o'clock, good morrow masters all. 2. Past three o'clock, and a cold, frosty morning: Past three o'clock, good morrow masters all. We go the round, you rest at your leisure; Safe is your house and safe is your treasure. Past three o'clock, and a cold, frosty morning: Past three o'clock, good morrow masters all. 3. Past three o'clock, and a cold, frosty morning: Past three o'clock, good morrow masters all. When morning breaks, and slumber is ended, Give us your thanks, your homes who've defended. Past three o'clock, and a cold, frosty morning: Past three o'clock, good morrow masters all. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Past Three O'Clock (and a Cold Frosty...) From: giles earle Date: 25 Nov 09 - 02:42 AM This is the version I know, from that old war-horse, Carols for Choirs vol I. According to the footnote, the refrain is traditional and the verses below by G R Woodward; tune in London Waits, from Chappell's Popular Music of the Olden Time. The harmonisation in Carols for Choirs is by Charles Wood: Past three a clock, And a cold frosty morning, Past three a clock; Good morrow, masters all! Born is a Baby, Gentle as may be, Son of the eternal Father supernal. Seraph quire singeth, Angel bell ringeth; Hark how they rime it, Time it and chime it. Mid earth rejoices Hearing such voices e'ertofore so well Carolling Nowell. Hinds o'er the pearly Dewy lawn early Seek the high Stranger Laid in the manger. Cheese from the dairy Bring they for Mary And, not for money, Butter and honey. Light out of star-land Leadeth from far land Princes, to meet him, Worship and greet him. Myrrh from full coffer, Incense they offer; Nor is the golden Nugget withholden. Thus they: I pray you, Up, sirs, nor stay you Till ye confess him Likewise and bless him. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Past Three O'Clock (and a Cold Frosty...) From: GUEST,jonboy Date: 11 Dec 10 - 12:25 AM The Normon Luboff Choir performed the album "Folk Songs of the British Isles". Columbia released the album in 1960. The song about which you asked is a watchman's call. "Past 12 o'clock, on a fine frosty morning. Past 12 o'clock, good morning, masters all. Clear is the air, the north wind's a blowing. Soon the city will awake; the cockrel is crowing." The album appears no longer available. |
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Subject: ADD: Past Three O'Clock From: Joe Offer Date: 22 Jun 11 - 12:11 AM I found two versions of this song on the Internet, but don't know any background information - yet. PAST THREE O'CLOCK (as recorded by Linda Ronstadt) Past three o'clock And a cold frosty morning Past three o'clock Good morrow masters all Church bells are chiming Ding dong, ding dong One two three four five six sev'n eight nine ten 'leven Till the midnight sun shines Church bells are chiming Heav'n with earth rhyming In child so tender Sun's radiant splendor Church bells are ringing People are singing Midnight's dark shadow Breaks with the sun's morrow Past three o'clock And a cold frosty morning Past three o'clock Good morrow masters all Source: http://www.lyricsmania.com/past_three_oclock_lyrics_linda_ronstadt.html |
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Subject: RE: Lyr req: Past three o'clock... / also 'Eleanor' From: Joe Offer Date: 22 Jun 11 - 12:13 AM PAST THREE O'CLOCK (as recorded by the London Boys Singers) Past three o'clock And a co-old frosty morning Past three o'clock Good morrow masters all Past three o'clock (past three o'clock) And a co-old frosty morning (and a co-old frosty morning) Past three o'clock (past three o'clock) Good morrow masters all (good morrow masters all) Good morrow masters all (good morrow masters all) Good morrow masters all (good morrow masters all) Good morrow masters all Born is a baby, gentle as may be Son of the eternal, Father supernal Seraph quire singeth, angel bell ringeth Hark how-ow they rhyme it, time it and chime it Past three o'clock And a co-old frosty morning Past three a clock Good morrow, masters all Peace o'er the pearly dewy lawn early Seek the hi-i-igh Stranger laid in a manger Cheese from the dairy, bring them for Mary And no-ot for money, butter and honey Past three o'clock And a co-old frosty morning Past three a clock Good morrow, masters all Myrrh from full coffer, incense they offer Nor is the-e golden nugget withholden Thus they I pray you, up sirs nor stay you 'Till ye-ee confess him, likewise and bless him Past three o'clock And a co-old frosty morning Past three a clock Good morrow, masters all Past three o'clock (past three o'clock) And a co-old frosty morning (and a co-old frosty mornïng) Past three o'clock (past three o'clock) Good morrow masters all (good morrow masters all) Good morrow masters all (good morrow masters all) Good morrow masters all (good morrow masters all) Good morrow masters all Good morrow masters all... Source: http://www.lyricsforsong.net/lyrics/london-boys-singers-past-three-o-clock-lyrics_knmirm.html |
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Subject: ADD: Past Three A Clock From: Joe Offer Date: 22 Jun 11 - 12:19 AM
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Past Three O'Clock (and a Cold Frosty...) From: GUEST,Winterborn Date: 09 Nov 12 - 09:31 PM This is a response to a post I think you made in 2000 in connection with a song 'Past 3 o'clock, young maidens are sleeping' I sang that in a school in Australia around 1968. I have been looking for the words ever since. The Christmas Carol version also posted on this thread is to the same tune, so far as I can recall. Thank you and thank you very much! |
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