Lyr Req: Home, Dearie, Home & The Wild Lass

Subject: Home, Dearie, Home & The Wild Lass
From: Sylvia Herold
Date: 02 Mar 01 - 02:26 PM

I've got a nice version of Home Dearie, Home from an Ed Trickett album. I know there are a lot of versions of this song and I was wondering if anyone could point me to some other good recorded or printed versions. On another subject, Jean Redpath recorded a song on her "Leaving the Land" CD called The Wild Lass. It sounds traditional but the liner notes say it was composed by Marion Angus and Dave Whyte. Jean sings it in broad Scot and there are a couple of words I can't figure oot. (I dinna ken what they are.) Does anyone know of any printed versions of this song? Thanks!

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Home, Dearie, Home & The Wild Lass
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 02 Mar 01 - 03:06 PM

Well, you could have a look at this thread from a few days ago, where I gave a list of links to a number of versions available in the DT Database:  The Oak, the Ash and the Holly tree

Malcolm

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Home, Dearie, Home & The Wild Lass
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Mar 01 - 04:52 PM

You could always email Jean, about The Wild Lass words, from her website at www.jeanredpath.com. I had to do that when I stumped everyone here on a poem, Retirement, she had on one of her CD's. (I'd only herad it once in the car on NPR and thought it was a song.) It took a while, but I finally received an email from her telling me the title and what CD it was on, A Woman of Her Time.

kat

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Home, Dearie, Home & The Wild Lass
From: Snuffy
Date: 02 Mar 01 - 05:13 PM

Jean Redpath's website

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Home, Dearie, Home & The Wild Lass
From: Sorcha
Date: 02 Mar 01 - 07:15 PM

Would the Wild Lass be written by Mario/an Angus? Scottish poet......found a reference to it, but not the words.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Home, Dearie, Home & The Wild Lass
From: Sylvia Herold
Date: 03 Mar 01 - 01:21 PM

Thanks everyone for the tips. I will send an e-mail to Jean.

Subject: Lyr Add: THE WILD LASS
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 03 Mar 01 - 05:50 PM

Turtle Dove, here are the words. Would you do me a favour and let me have the full liner notes referring to the song? I don't have the CD, just taped the song from the radio. Thanks!

Hameward you're traivelling in the saft hill rain
The day lang by that you wearied o' the glen
Nae ring upon your hand, nae kiss upon your moo'
Quiet noo
Nae ring upon your hand, nae kiss upon your moo'
Quiet, quiet noo

There's fiddlers an' dancin' and steps gaun by the doors
Nane o' them sall fret ye in the lang nicht hoors
Peace come on the wind and peace fa' wi' the dew
Quiet noo
Peace come on the wind and peace fa' wi' the dew
Quiet, quiet noo

Cauld was the lift aboon ye, the road baith roch an' steep
Nae farther sall ye wander nor greet yersel' tae sleep
My ain wild lass, my bonnie-hearted do'e
Quiet noo
My ain wild lass, my bonnie-hearted do'e
Quiet, quiet noo

Now, which words do you need to know more about? Isn't there an online glossary of Scottish words somewhere? Unfortunately, I've lost the address.

[1970:] Another of the 'regional' singers, Marion Angus [1866-1946] is the best of one or two women poets of her time, just before the MacDiarmid period, though in [some of her work] she is of national rank. (Penguin Book of Scottish Verse 19)

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Home, Dearie, Home & The Wild Lass
From: Sylvia Herold
Date: 03 Mar 01 - 09:12 PM

Dear Susanne, Thanks so much. You really had the goods. It's the third verse that I'm having the most trouble with: "Cauld was the lift aboon ye, the road baith roch an' steep" = "Cold was the . .huh?" And do you think "roch" means "rough"? I also wonder what "do'e" means. On the cd she pronounces it "doo." The only other problem is the line "an' steps gaun by the doors" which I take to be "going" or "gone" which is fine except it doesn't seem to make much sense in the context of the song. About the liner notes, I'd be most happy to pass them along to you. They are not extensive. If you send me your mailing address I'll send you a copy of the cd booklet.

T. Dove

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Home, Dearie, Home & The Wild Lass
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 04 Mar 01 - 08:32 AM

John of Brisbane compiled a glossary of Scottish words, which is in this thread:  Glossary of Scottish Words

"roch" or "rouch" would just mean "rough" in this context; "lift" is "sky".  A "doo" is a "dove"; a common term of endearment.  "an' steps gaun by the doors" just means, I'd say, that there are people walking past outside.

Thanks for bringing this one up, and to Susanne for posting the words; it's a lovely piece.  Could you possibly come up with the melody, too?

Malcolm

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Home, Dearie, Home & The Wild Lass
From: Sylvia Herold
Date: 04 Mar 01 - 03:42 PM

Thank you Malcolm for clearing up those words. I'm afraid I don't have any way to enter the tune on my computer. The song is on Jean Redpath's cd "Leaving the Land" which is described as "A collection of songs, Scottish and Western." There are two songs on this album (including the Wild Lass) which I like enough to want to learn. That's a pretty high recommendation from me.

Thanks again for all the great info. I'm new to the Mudcat forum. I can see already what a great resource it can be.

Cheers, Turtle

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Home, Dearie, Home & The Wild Lass
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 04 Mar 01 - 06:04 PM

Turtle do'e - thanks for offering to send the liner notes to me. Couldn't you just type them in and post them to this thread? Or are they to long for that?
As to the tune, I still haven't learnt to post music but I'm thinking of doing another tape before long and sending it to Kat or Joe. Must remember to include this lovely song!

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Home, Dearie, Home & The Wild Lass
From: Sylvia Herold
Date: 06 Mar 01 - 02:28 PM

Susanne, There isn't any thing specifically about that song in the liner notes. The Wild Lass is the last song on a 12 cut cd. Here's what it says: "The songs on this record seemed to fall together in groups: the first three of exile from the land or the homeland, the next three referring more specifically to the self--imposed problems of the itinerant musician past and present. On the second side "Sonny" and "Maggie are both concerned with goals and destinations unattained, "Lerwick Harbour" with leaving home and the other three increasingly with our ultimate common destination and a consideration of what may be, after all, the point of the journey: "From quiet homes and first beginning, out to ther undiscovered ends. There's nothing worth the wear of winning but laughter and the love of friends." Hellaire Belloc So--there's nothing too specific about that song. Thanks again for your help with the lyrics. T.D.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Home, Dearie, Home & The Wild Lass
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 06 Mar 01 - 06:23 PM

Thanks for sending the notes all the same! I'd love to know a little more of the background, but I've checked poetry books and come up with nothing, so this isn't surprising.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Home, Dearie, Home & The Wild Lass
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Aug 08 - 05:09 AM

i think it may be an angus traivellers song.   from the area of angus - who would up and away in the summer [think adam macnaughton's yella on the broom] or perhaps pertaining not to the traivelling fowk as such but to itinerant fairm workers - the feein'.   who moved season to season from fairm to fairm with the work around the north east of scotland into perthshire - songs like drumelvie, bogie's bonnie bell, etc reflect this lifestyle.   the longer ones are called bothy ballads and can run to 26 verses.

however it could be one of the Angus Women Poet's songs (Violet Jacobs, Helen Cruickshank or Marion Angus - though she seemed to write less in Scots ); I say this because of the Jim Reid - Jean Redpath connection; Hallowe'en on this album is a Violet Jacobs' song set to music by Jim Reid

For music you can post wavs to photobucket and link.

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