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childrens song - wind the bobbin

GUEST,grannyjan 30 Apr 01 - 12:14 PM
mousethief 30 Apr 01 - 12:24 PM
Sorcha 30 Apr 01 - 12:25 PM
IanC 30 Apr 01 - 12:26 PM
AllisonA(Animaterra) 30 Apr 01 - 12:28 PM
grannyjan 30 Apr 01 - 12:33 PM
black walnut 30 Apr 01 - 12:58 PM
Noreen 30 Apr 01 - 01:13 PM
black walnut 30 Apr 01 - 01:27 PM
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Subject: childrens song - wind the bobbin
From: GUEST,grannyjan
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 12:14 PM

My grand daughter, Leah, is 2 and has learnt a new song at playgroup.

Unfortunately, all she remembers is 'wind the bobbin, pull,pull,pull,' with accompanying actions.

She is driving us mad, asking us to sing this song. I vaguely recognise it, but only the chorus.

Has anybody any ideas?

Unfortunately, I am not well enough to go to the library or I would be into the Opie's Lore and Language of Schoolchildren.


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Subject: RE: childrens song - wind the bobbin
From: mousethief
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 12:24 PM

If nobody gets it before then, and you can wait until tonight, I can look for it in my copy of Songs and Games of American Children.

Alex


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Subject: Lyr Add: Wind the Bobbin ^^
From: Sorcha
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 12:25 PM

Is this it?

Wind the Bobbin up
Wind the bobbin up, wind the bobbin up.
Pull, pull, clap, clap, clap.
Wind the bobbin up, wind the bobbin up.
Pull, pull, clap, clap, clap.

Point to the ceiling, point to the floor.
Point the the window and point to the door.
Clap your hands together,
1 2 3
Put your hands upon your knees.

Wind it back again, wind it back again.
Pull, pull, clap, clap, clap.
Wind it back again, wind it back again.
Pull, pull, clap, clap, clap.
Point to the ceiling, point to the floor.
Point the the window and point to the door.
Clap your hands together,
1 2 3
Put your hands upon your knees.
^^


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Subject: RE: childrens song - wind the bobbin ^^
From: IanC
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 12:26 PM

This is about all of it. My wife used to sing it as "Wind the threads".

WIND THE BOBBIN

Wind, wind, wind the bobbin (2x)
Pull, pull, tap, tap, tap.
Wind, wind, wind the bobbin (2x)
Pull, pull, tap, tap, tap.

Heel & toe & tap, tap, tap (4x)

Cheers!
Ian ^^


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Subject: RE: childrens song - wind the bobbin
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 12:28 PM

Tune???


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Subject: RE: childrens song - wind the bobbin
From: grannyjan
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 12:33 PM

Thank you for the answers.

I'll try them on Leah tomorrow.

No chance of a tune between a two year old and a tone deaf granny!


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Subject: RE: childrens song - wind the bobbin
From: black walnut
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 12:58 PM

Kathy Reid-Naiman has recorded this and lots of other wonderful children's songs and rhymes. Excellent tapes/CD's produced by Ken Whitley.

Tickles and Tunes, More Tickles and Tunes, Say Hello to the Morning

~black walnut


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Subject: RE: childrens song - wind the bobbin
From: Noreen
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 01:13 PM

It's a very simple tune, obviously, and the same as a French children's song , but can't think of the name of that, not that it would necessarily help.

I could scan it in from The Singing Game by Iona and Peter Opie, but it's such a little scrap... I'll try something:

so, la, so-me-doh- (repeat)
fa--, me--, ra, ra, doh.

Is that any good, Allison?

Noreen


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Subject: RE: childrens song - wind the bobbin
From: black walnut
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 01:27 PM

s..lsmd.
s..lsmd.
f...m...r.r.d...
s..lsmd.
s..lsmd.
f...m...r.r.d...
d.dms.s.l.lls...
d.dms.s.f.fmr...
d.dms.s.l.lls...
f.f.m.m.r.r.d...

An attempt at simplifying the solfa-thing. Does it work, Noreen? Every syllable or dot is an eighth note in this case.

~black walnut


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Subject: RE: childrens song - wind the bobbin
From: Noreen
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 02:03 PM

Works for me, bw, thank you. I'm sure we'll be accused of re-inventing the wheel here!


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Subject: RE: childrens song - wind the bobbin
From: black walnut
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 02:42 PM

I am aware of my shortcut's shortcomings. But it works for some things, as long as the code is understood...

I'm happy to reinvent insofar as I'm not spinning my wheels!

~b.w.


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Subject: RE: childrens song - wind the bobbin
From: MMario
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 02:50 PM

THANKS! (I don't care how you post 'em if they get here!)

BW ? one question

first line is 6 syllables five notes?

okay - two questions....which set of lyrics above fits the tune you posted ?


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Subject: ADD Tune: Wind the Bobbin ^^
From: Joe Offer
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 03:17 PM

The words in The Singing Game are just a bit different, and don't seem to scan the same as some of the lyrics posted above.

WIND THE BOBBIN

Wind the bob-bin up,
Wind the bob-bin up,
Pull, pull
Tug, tug, tug

Players wind their fists round each other, first one way, then the other. At "Pull, pull," they thrust their fists away from each other, and at "Tug, tug, tug," they pull their elbows back. Although now a playground game it seems now to have been a nursery game, in fact one informant said she had known it so long she oculd not remember where she had learnt it: "I think me auntie and me Mum taught me." (Opie: "The Singing Game")
I sent the tune to Mudcat MIDIs
-Joe Offer-

MIDI file: WINDBOB.MID

Timebase: 192

Name: Wind the Bobbin
Text: By Traditional
Copyright: From "The Singing Game" (Opie)
TimeSig: 2/4 24 8
Start
0000 1 67 110 0142 0 67 000 0002 1 69 110 0046 0 69 000 0002 1 67 110 0070 0 67 000 0002 1 64 110 0022 0 64 000 0002 1 62 110 0094 0 62 000 0002 1 67 110 0142 0 67 000 0002 1 69 110 0046 0 69 000 0002 1 67 110 0070 0 67 000 0002 1 64 110 0022 0 64 000 0002 1 62 110 0094 0 62 000 0002 1 62 110 0160 0 62 000 0032 1 62 110 0160 0 62 000 0032 1 62 110 0094 0 62 000 0002 1 62 110 0094 0 62 000 0002 1 62 110 0160 0 62 000
End

This program is worth the effort of learning it.

To download the March 10 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here

ABC format:

X:1
T:Wind the Bobbin
M:2/4
Q:1/4=120
K:C
G3AG3/2E/2D2|G3AG3/2E/2D2|D4D4|D2D2D7/2||

^^


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Subject: RE: childrens song - wind the bobbin
From: MMario
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 03:19 PM

phhhhhfffffffffffftttttttttt!!!!


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Subject: RE: childrens song - wind the bobbin
From: Joe Offer
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 03:28 PM

"phhhhhfffffffffffftttttttttt!!!!"

Can you do a MIDI of that tune, MMario?
[grin]
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: childrens song - wind the bobbin
From: Noreen
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 03:41 PM

Joe, that's basically the same as Sorcha's.


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Subject: RE: childrens song - wind the bobbin
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 05:25 PM

I do Sorcha's version which fits to black walnut's notation. Did it twice today!


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Subject: RE: childrens song - wind the bobbin
From: black walnut
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 06:22 PM

MMario:

I was using the words, "Wind the bobbin up, wind the bobbin up, pull, pull, tap, tap, tap".

Wind . . the bobbin up .

is 4 quarter note beats of music. Each syllable and each dot equals an eighth note.

Truth be told, you hold the word "Wind" through the dots; it's not a great shorthand, just a fast and easy one to help jog the memory. It won't indicate holds, dotted rhythms, or tunes that span greater than one octave.

But, it was worth a try for this simple tune...

~b.w.


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Subject: RE: childrens song - wind the bobbin
From: black walnut
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 06:24 PM

P.S.

That's cool, Mrs. Duck!

~b.w.


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Subject: RE: childrens song - wind the bobbin
From: Snuffy
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 07:30 PM

We did this at primary school in the late 50s. It was a one-room school with about a dozen pupils aged 5-11. And we had one old 78 to play on a wind-up gramophone with just the tune, no words. We did the same actions as above for lines 1,2, & 4, but I can't remember what we did for line 3. I think the other side was called "I've Lost My Stocking In The Brook", which involved nodding at the end of each line. Here's the Bobbin tune as I remember it from 40+ years ago.

MIDI file: WINDBOBB.MID

Timebase: 480

Tempo: 120 (500000 microsec/crotchet)
Key: G
TimeSig: 2/4 24 8
Name: Wind the Bobbin
Start
0000 1 74 127 0359 0 74 000 0001 1 76 090 0119 0 76 000 0001 1 74 090 0119 0 74 000 0001 1 71 090 0119 0 71 000 0001 1 67 090 0119 0 67 000 0001 1 71 090 0119 0 71 000 0001 1 74 127 0359 0 74 000 0001 1 76 090 0119 0 76 000 0001 1 74 090 0119 0 74 000 0001 1 71 090 0119 0 71 000 0001 1 67 090 0119 0 67 000 0001 1 71 090 0119 0 71 000 0001 1 72 127 0359 0 72 000 0001 1 72 090 0119 0 72 000 0001 1 71 090 0359 0 71 000 0001 1 71 090 0119 0 71 000 0001 1 69 127 0239 0 69 000 0001 1 69 090 0239 0 69 000 0001 1 67 090 0479 0 67 000 0001 1 74 127 0359 0 74 000 0001 1 76 090 0119 0 76 000 0001 1 74 090 0119 0 74 000 0001 1 71 090 0119 0 71 000 0001 1 67 090 0119 0 67 000 0001 1 71 090 0119 0 71 000 0001 1 74 127 0359 0 74 000 0001 1 76 090 0119 0 76 000 0001 1 74 090 0119 0 74 000 0001 1 71 090 0119 0 71 000 0001 1 67 090 0119 0 67 000 0001 1 71 090 0119 0 71 000 0001 1 72 127 0359 0 72 000 0001 1 72 090 0119 0 72 000 0001 1 71 090 0359 0 71 000 0001 1 71 090 0119 0 71 000 0001 1 69 127 0239 0 69 000 0001 1 69 090 0239 0 69 000 0001 1 67 090 0479 0 67 000 0001 1 69 127 0239 0 69 000 0001 1 69 090 0239 0 69 000 0001 1 62 090 0239 0 62 000 0001 1 62 090 0239 0 62 000 0001 1 67 127 0239 0 67 000 0001 1 71 090 0239 0 71 000 0001 1 74 090 0479 0 74 000 0001 1 69 127 0239 0 69 000 0001 1 69 090 0239 0 69 000 0001 1 62 090 0239 0 62 000 0001 1 62 090 0239 0 62 000 0001 1 67 127 0239 0 67 000 0001 1 71 090 0239 0 71 000 0001 1 74 090 0479 0 74 000 0001 1 74 127 0359 0 74 000 0001 1 76 090 0119 0 76 000 0001 1 74 090 0119 0 74 000 0001 1 71 090 0119 0 71 000 0001 1 67 090 0119 0 67 000 0001 1 71 090 0119 0 71 000 0001 1 74 127 0359 0 74 000 0001 1 76 090 0119 0 76 000 0001 1 74 090 0119 0 74 000 0001 1 71 090 0119 0 71 000 0001 1 67 090 0119 0 67 000 0001 1 71 090 0119 0 71 000 0001 1 72 127 0359 0 72 000 0001 1 72 090 0119 0 72 000 0001 1 71 090 0359 0 71 000 0001 1 71 090 0119 0 71 000 0001 1 69 127 0239 0 69 000 0001 1 69 090 0239 0 69 000 0001 1 67 090 0479 0 67 000
End

This program is worth the effort of learning it.

To download the March 10 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here

ABC format:

X:1
T:Wind the Bobbin
M:2/4
Q:1/4=120
K:G
d3e dBGB|d3e dBGB|c3c B3B|A2A2 G4|
d3e dBGB|d3e dBGB|c3c B3B|A2A2 G4|
A2A2 D2D2|G2B2 d4|A2A2 D2D2|G2B2 d4|
d3e dBGB|d3e dBGB|c3c B3B|A2A2 G4||



Wassail! V


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Subject: RE: childrens song - wind the bobbin
From: Joe Offer
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 07:32 PM

I think we have the same tune - but I don't know how to make it fit Ian's version. Walnut, are there words that have more than one note? I interpreted it as one word, one note.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: childrens song - wind the bobbin
From: sophocleese
Date: 01 May 01 - 08:13 AM

My kids learned it as:

Wind the bobbin and
Unwind the bobbin and
Break, break
Hammer, hammer, hammer.

My sound card still is working and I'm too sleepy yet to read the notation but its likely that you've got the same tune.


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Subject: RE: childrens song - wind the bobbin
From: ermintrudeclaire
Date: 07 May 01 - 04:31 PM

i am a playgroup leader and we sing this each time to signify the end of our song time as wind the bobbin up, wind the bobbin up, pull, pull, clap clap clap point to the ceiling, point to the floor point to the window, point to the door put your hands together 1,2,3 put your hands upon your knee.

sometimes we also sing the second verse wind it back again, wind it back again pull, pull etc.


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Subject: RE: childrens song - wind the bobbin
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 07 May 01 - 05:23 PM

snap


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Subject: RE: childrens song - wind the bobbin
From: grannyjan
Date: 08 May 01 - 05:38 AM

Wow! What a magnificent response.

Thank you all, Leah is now dancing around the garden singing and doing the actions , and her mum and I are free for a while.


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