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Subject: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: Rick Fielding Date: 20 Jul 01 - 02:09 PM Nope, still FAR too much of interest around here. Aww, I could complain if I wanted to (hell, occasionally I DO), 'cause in my perfect cyber-world, HUNDREDS (instead of a handful) would love discussing: Simmie Dooley, Alton Delmore, Lonnie Johnson, Geechie Wiley, Doyle Lawson, Estil Ball, and the exalted Alfred G. Karnes. But there are still quite a few folks who drop by for the technically discombobulationg "Chords, finger and Flapicking, Capos, strings, neck-shaving, instrument collecting, stc. discussions. The political threads may be infuriating to some, but you have to admit that after fifty or so posts (ranging from insightful to idiotic) you get a pretty good idea of what the "Vox Populii" have on their mind. When the fur flies over "leadership aspirations", prayers (Hell, most of the participants are usually arguing over the AMOUNT, not whether to ban it) anon. guests, greedy record moguls, and general cheap shots, it can get a bit tedious, but it perfectly reflects "real life", in all it's silliness. When folks I've come to know and like, act "out of character" (or even downright bizarre) it's much easier to just accept that we are ALL very inconsistent, and sometimes it shows. Much better than the division that "taking sides" inevitably results in. When some go on and on, in pointless (to me) chat, I just figure they haven't discovered "The Sopranos" yet! Nope, still the best hobby on the "net" for me. Cheers Rick
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: Wolfgang Date: 20 Jul 01 - 02:24 PM Rick,
you really took me in this time (my fault, I should have read the bit in parentheses as well). You first posted this thread directly behind another new one and I read: Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: Margo Date: 20 Jul 01 - 02:31 PM I've not left, either. I just lurk (so watch your cyber behind) Margo :o) |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: SINSULL Date: 20 Jul 01 - 02:35 PM Thanks, Rick. I have been trying to compose some similar thoughts. You said it all. Now if we could just get everyone to IGNORE the flamers... |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: jeffp Date: 20 Jul 01 - 02:39 PM Thank you Rick for a sensible post. The nonsense seems to get dismaying around here this time of year. I'll be away for a week myself. Maybe things will have settled back to normal when I return. Keep going with the technique, equipment, obscure artist, etc. threads, please. They're fascinating reading and I for one am learning a lot from them. jeffp |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: Midchuck Date: 20 Jul 01 - 02:40 PM I'll talk about Alton Delmore and Doyle Lawson with you. Don't know much history on either one but like what I've heard. Who them other dudes? P. |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: Wesley S Date: 20 Jul 01 - 02:42 PM Rick - I'd be interested in hearing more about all of those people. How about a weekly post where you give us some history about one of these performers and why you love their music ? Maybe a few song lyrics, why they were important, ect. I know you've done a lot of that in the past and I've read all of them with interest. More please. I'm staying away from the political threads anyway. It would give a lot of us something interesting to read. It wouldn't suprise me if we went out and bought some of their music because of it. Thanks. |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: M.Ted Date: 20 Jul 01 - 02:47 PM I am leaving Mudcat, Rick--at least for the rest of the afternoon. I may even stay away most of tomorrow and Sunday, though I will drop in once, a little later on, and certainly not more than twice, with an outside possiblity of third or a fourth time, but a fifth would be the upper limit, and a sixth, while not out of the question, would probably not be superceded by an seventh, or at the very maximum, an eighth,,,nine is nearly out of the question, and the likelyhood of a tenth is, well, remote, but morely likely than an eleventh, and as to the twelveth, well, I think you could come pretty close to forgetting it........ |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: Jeri Date: 20 Jul 01 - 02:52 PM How many trolls can you fall victim to All of them, a several, or none And how many trolls can point down a road That you'll blindly follow at a run How mad will you get before you recall You once came here for the fun
The ants are my friends ...where were we? Oh yeah - I'm leaving. I have to go to a session. See ya later. I'll expect Rick to explain who the Geechie guy and the Ball guy and the rest of them are by the time I return. Or I'll write another verse, perhaps about certain members' pre-occupation with F chords. |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: Steve Latimer Date: 20 Jul 01 - 02:52 PM I've cut down greatly on my 'Catter Chatter, but I still lurk. Unfortunately, I'm a music junkie and there I've found no better place to get a fix than right here. I think I'll go start another Dylan thread.
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: Jeri Date: 20 Jul 01 - 02:54 PM Ooh - coincidence? I THINK NOT! |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: Steve Latimer Date: 20 Jul 01 - 02:56 PM Nice grammar, eh? Sorry about that. |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: Jeri Date: 20 Jul 01 - 03:01 PM (Aside to Steve - sorry Rick: I just thought it was funny I would kill a Dylan lyric and you mentioned starting a thread on him.) |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 20 Jul 01 - 03:02 PM Well I am Left, and I'm staying.
A lot of the best songs start in arguments and tragedies and heartbreak. So it's hardly surprising we have a fair amount of all those things around here.
No bloodshed, but that's just because noone has invented the way to get that on the net. Not yet anyway - they are probably working on it. |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: Steve Latimer Date: 20 Jul 01 - 03:03 PM Jeri, I enjoyed your spoof, I hadn't read it when I posted mine. Scary stuff. |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: Jeri Date: 20 Jul 01 - 03:09 PM The pills must be wearing off. Rick, I'm sorry I'm creeping in your thread. In all seriousness, the discussions about Mudcat are what seem weird, and whenever we have flame wars, they crop up. "Why I love Mudcat," "Mudcat is the Greatest." There's an almost desparate tone. This place is best when we just get on with the music and sometimes even the non-music discussions. Of course all of this is just my opinion. |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: Lonesome EJ Date: 20 Jul 01 - 03:10 PM Rick, you'd have to be nuts to leave. This is the central core of your fan base!!! |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: Linda Kelly Date: 20 Jul 01 - 03:35 PM Nah -I'm hanging in there -there's been far worse thrown about in my local pub -and it's still my local.Blimey ,if I didn't have friends who the hell would i have to fal out with!! |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 20 Jul 01 - 03:39 PM I agree. |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: Rick Fielding Date: 20 Jul 01 - 03:50 PM Hilarious Ted! Jeri, hijack away. That "Geechie guy" is a gal! Stupendous blues singer and pianist from the twenties. Stewie (from OZ) and our own Peter T. turned me on to her. I think that the main point I wanted to make (and it kinda got buried in my blah, blah, was that I KNOW it's irritating to folks (folklorists, and serious hobbyists alike) when there's a lot of piffle, and it's bloody easy to get SERIOULY ticked (believe me I do...but privately) but we are not automatons, we have our charming days AND our completely irritating ones... It's best (for me) to just butt out when someone "switches personna"....I figure "they'll be back to normal in a couple of days"...and then so will I. Cheers Rick |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: GUEST,JohnB Date: 20 Jul 01 - 04:14 PM I'm leaving, work that is for a two week vacation followed by a two week temporary shut down. So for the next month I may not be around too much. I normally post from work at lunch time, the BOSS at home is not as receptive to that sort of thing. When it gets dark though, I may be allowed some time off for good behaviour, if I still have the strength to move the keys. "I will MacArthur" Have a good summer, I will see anyone going to the Goderich Celtic College, I guess the BOSS isn't ALL bad. JohnB |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: Maryrrf Date: 20 Jul 01 - 04:14 PM I haven't been on Mudcat that long but I plan on sticking around. It's very easy to ignore threads that get on my nerves and just concentrate on the interesting ones! I don't even have time to read all the threads, so if I'm not interested in something or it's some private spat that's going on I just exit that thread! That's the great thing about on-line relationships - if I don't like it I just don't read or respond to it. It's not like some disagreeable person is pounding on my door or calling me on the phone at inconvenient times. I'm mostly interested in the music threads but I enjoy some of the humerous threads and the general BS threads as well. Since I can pick and choose, what I don't like doesn't bother me, (or hasn't so far). |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: dwditty Date: 20 Jul 01 - 04:41 PM Hey Rick, Maybe you can help me. I've been looking for a Doyle Lawson performance video for the last couple of years. A couple of times I have found it advertised on the web, but when I've gone to buy it, it is no longer available. Likewise, have you ever seen any sheet music for any of his acappella stuff. Some friends and I sing some close gospel harmony occasionally and would love to add some of his arrangements. Thanks. Now I'm off to investigate this Alfred G. Karnes guy. Thanks for the post. dw |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: wysiwyg Date: 20 Jul 01 - 04:55 PM Doyle Lawson. Start a thread. Someone is sending me some to hear. You start. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: Big Mick Date: 20 Jul 01 - 04:58 PM I'm leaving.................for New England for a couple of weeks, so I won't be posting much..........that should make a couple of folks happy, anyway. But then I will be back, refreshed and full of Southie attitude, hopefully with all my teeth, not too many new scars, and delighted to have 3D'ed with a bunch of my old NE Mudcat friends. And Fielding...............what the feck was that crack about switching with Donna.......or some such shite as that..............is that a Canadian thing. Being a thoroughly modern and sensitive guy of the New Millenium, I need to know. Big Mick Lane Senior Layabout Fielding,Patterson, Swan & Lane, Layabouts at Large & for Hire Remember, "At Lane, Fielding, Patterson & Swan when you're too busy to take a day off, we do it for you". ("too busy..." and the LFPS logo are registered service marks of LFPS and are protected by international copyright conventions. Unauthorized use of these marks will lead to old couches, layabouts and one eyed dogs being delivered to your home and/or place of business for a period of not less than ten days) |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: bbc Date: 20 Jul 01 - 05:44 PM I've thought I was leaving at more than one point, but I found that, in spite of not loving everything on the site, I love the site itself too much to want to go. Next week, forever, I *am* leaving--yup, Monday through Saturday, I'll be largely computer-less in Maine. It will probably kill me. As Mick says, though, there is considerable consolation in the thought of seeing some good friends (previously met or not) in person! You'll have the benefit or detriment of my company again before long! Rick, thanks for being here! best to all, bbc |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: SDShad Date: 20 Jul 01 - 05:51 PM Alright, dammit, Rick, this thread title is sending Thread Name Game into overdrive, as Wolfgang attests far above here. I just saw this title below one stating "Ahm Still Here", which followed with "....but I'm not" gives rather the wrong impression. Between you and Little John, I'm all confuzzled. Chris |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 20 Jul 01 - 06:50 PM Leave the cat for a week, and when you open her up again, all the threads that had benen irritating you tend to have vanished away. And if you are cautious in opening them up, you'll likely avoid every seeing the new ones that would irritate you if you knew they were there.
Of course you might miss a few of the ones you love to read but that's how it goes. I generally feel it's worth risking getting irritated. |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: Rick Fielding Date: 20 Jul 01 - 06:51 PM Ummmm, uh, Mick, could you say that "switching...Donna" thing again....but this time in English? I'm slow on the uptake today. Sorry for the confuzzlement Chris, it just happened that when I was first perusing Mudcat this morning, both "I'm quitting" things were at the top. generally I stay out of that kind of thing, simply to give me more time to browse before actually having to do any work around here. Just thought I'd throw in something POSITIVE about the Cat and Catters........but you know me (well the veterans do) when it comes to thread titles....Ahh jes' caint hep maself! Cheers Rick |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: Gareth Date: 20 Jul 01 - 08:05 PM A paradox, As a fervent reader of "Private Eye" # and "Wales Watch" **, and as one who has loaded the gun occasionally I am used to letters cancellimg thier subscriptions. As there seems to be a suggestion that M'Catters should concentrate on Music only - well each to thier taste, though any comment, even the miost "rock sucking Troll" ( visit DiscWorld) I will attempt to comment in musical terms. Question - If you leave a gathering, publically anouncing your departure, do you still purchase, or visit to see the result ? did the "Pirates of Penzance" get this dichotomy correct :- viz
" A Parradox, a parradox, Quiz " Who and what date" Gareth |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 20 Jul 01 - 08:23 PM Rick, that's great. And any time you want to wander off message to ruminate about Kenneth Williams, Alec Guinness etc, be my guest. Best advice yet on coping with whatever gets up your nose, Kev (McGrath). Just butt out for a few days, and it's whole different set of threads when you come back. |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: Rick Fielding Date: 20 Jul 01 - 11:41 PM Fionn, you just put a bizarre thought into my head. Being a compulsive diarist, a superb musician (the ramblin' Sid stuff) and offtimes a Royal pain in the ass, our boy Ken Williams would have fit right into Mudcat! Hmmmm, any of our more "spiritual" folks want to contact him from the grave, and ask if he'd like to join? Rick |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: Big Mick Date: 20 Jul 01 - 11:58 PM Switching personna's.............switching Donna.........play on words.........damn, it was lame......... Mick |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: catspaw49 Date: 21 Jul 01 - 12:26 AM No Mick.....Lame is badly limping whereas that one of yours NEVER had a leg to stand on to begin with. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: BlueJay Date: 21 Jul 01 - 02:07 AM Maryrrf- Thank You. My sentiments exactly. Yours is one of the most sensible postings I've ever read regarding controversial threads, (and I've read a lot). Just common sense. I think your posting should be required reading for all who enter the Mudcat domain. Thanks again, and welcome to the Mudcat Cafe! For those of you who missed it, PLEASE scroll up to Maryrrf's original posting. How refreshing. BlueJay |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: fat B****rd Date: 21 Jul 01 - 04:25 AM it's NOT only folk and blues but I like it like it yes I DO |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: GUEST,Seamus Kennedy in Alaska Date: 21 Jul 01 - 06:33 AM Rick, in the Kenneth Williams threads a while back, I mentioned that I'd heard that he played guitar accompaniment to the Rambling Syd songs (which was brilliant!) and you weren't sure that he did. Any more information? If he did, that would elevate him to effing genius in my estimation. Seamus |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: Rick Fielding Date: 21 Jul 01 - 12:13 PM Hi Seamus. You DO get around don't you? Nope, a couple of studio guitarists filled that role. BUT...Ken could sight read and his interpretations certainly proved that he understood the genre. You know, I've read the "Diaries" several times now, and the man was SO complex. It's almost painful to see how hard he was on himself, and how rude he could be to others. Rick Good move BlueJay. It IS a great post. |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: Richard Bridge Date: 21 Jul 01 - 03:00 PM Even when some people are infuriating, most of teh stuff here is still interesting and so often informative. |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: Rich(bodhránai gan ciall) Date: 21 Jul 01 - 03:09 PM Glad to hear it, Rick. The 'Cat's been a bit weird lately, but not for the first or last time. I've been finding myself staring at the screen and saying "Man, if I wasn't refraining from posting on this thread, I'd sure....." It's the good moments that make it worth coming back. Go back and look at some of the "Mudcat Memorable Threads", or better yet let's make some new memorable threads to look back on later. Rich |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: GUEST,SharonA at the library Date: 21 Jul 01 - 04:58 PM I'm leaving 'cause the library's closing. Some day next week I should be back on line with my own cookie! I hope. SharonA |
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Subject: RE: ......but I'm not. (leaving, that is) From: katlaughing Date: 21 Jul 01 - 05:18 PM Where else but at the Mudcat? Good thread, Rick, thanksdarlin', kat |
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