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Lyr Req: Wheels of the World

Scabby Douglas 25 Jul 01 - 08:28 AM
GUEST,Dita (at work) 25 Jul 01 - 09:22 AM
GUEST,Martin Ryan 25 Jul 01 - 10:18 AM
Scabby Douglas 25 Jul 01 - 11:21 AM
Scabby Douglas 25 Jul 01 - 11:50 AM
Brían 25 Jul 01 - 12:30 PM
Scabby Douglas 26 Jul 01 - 04:07 AM
Brían 26 Jul 01 - 05:01 AM
GUEST,Martin Ryan 29 Jul 01 - 07:28 PM
Jim Dixon 23 Jun 04 - 09:17 AM
mikesamwild 30 Apr 10 - 09:06 AM
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Liberty Boy 01 May 10 - 02:10 AM
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Subject: Wheels of the WOrld
From: Scabby Douglas
Date: 25 Jul 01 - 08:28 AM

Anyone have any words or a source for this song?

It's of Irish origin ( I think), and the theme is saying great historical personages were "great spinners".

Castlereagh and Napoleon are both mentioned.

The last verse goes something like: "So if you're compelled to go spinning,
Then let all your spinnings be steel
_- - ---- ------ ---- - -
And ----- will turn your big wheel"

If anyone can suggest where I can find these lyrics, I'd be mightily obleeeged..

Cheers

SD


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wheels of the WOrld
From: GUEST,Dita (at work)
Date: 25 Jul 01 - 09:22 AM

I think Len Graham recorded it on an album called "Do Me Justice". I'll post more details when I get my hands on it, unless somebody beats me to it.
love, john


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wheels of the WOrld
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 25 Jul 01 - 10:18 AM

HERE it is.

Regards


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wheels of the WOrld
From: Scabby Douglas
Date: 25 Jul 01 - 11:21 AM

Thanks, Martin but that thread has a link to the song "Do Me Justice", not to the one I'm looking for.

That fits, though, because the guy I know who sings it also sings THAT one..

Hi John, nice to meet you at last at Bute. How'd the rest of the weekend go? We went for a fish tea at the West End Chippy, and I had a kip on the boat back so that I was fit to drive.

Oh, by the way, John, I keep meaning to give you my work mail address...

sclark@indigolighthouse.com

Cheers

Steven


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wheels of the WOrld
From: Scabby Douglas
Date: 25 Jul 01 - 11:50 AM

And, the reason I can't get these lyrics from the guy who sings the song is that he's aff to Switzerland for 3 weeks...

Cheers

SD


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Subject: Lyr Add: WHEELS OF THE WORLD (traditional Irish)
From: Brían
Date: 25 Jul 01 - 12:30 PM

Here is is:

THE WHEELS OF THE WORLD

Come all ye true sons of Erin, attend to these few nimble lines
I'll sing you a song about spinning, it was a good trade in its time.
Some they spun worsted and yarn, others they spun flax and tow
By experience, my friends, you can learn how the wheels of the world how they go.

William Pitt he was a great spinner, and so was Lord Castlereagh.
They spun the Union for Ireland to England they shipped it away.
Poor Pitt spun out his existence, then took a long trip on a boat.
Then Lord Castlereagh saved the distance,by cutting the rim of his throat.

Napolean he was a great spinner, he freedom did always advance.
Over deserts and high lofty mountains, he marched the brave sons of France.
Old Wellington he went a-spinning, his wheels they were at Waterloo;
But if Grouchy had never been bribed, thr French would have split him in two.

John Mitchell the true son of Erin, declared that a spinner he'd be.
He set all the wheels in motion, his dear native land to set free.
But John Bull that crafty old tyrant, at spinning he was fully bent.
And to Van Dieman's Land the sons of old Ireland were sent.

The factory owners are spinning, ther wheels are turning away.
And now they are wanting their hands to work thirteen hours a day.
They don't give a fig for the poor, they heed not the sighs or the moans,
Don't give a pin if you work 'til you spin all the flesh off your bones.

The rich they are all famous spinners, of that we are all very sure.
They are always contriving a sceme to crush down the rights of the poor.
So if you're compelled to go spinning, let each of your spindles be steel.
Let liberty then be your motto, and glory will turn your big wheel.

Who makes the rich? The answer is sure.
It must be the industrious poor.

-James Campbel(1758-18180

Boy, Castlereagh, Napolean and others.one could devote a history class titled The Wheels of the World devoted to this song alone. There is more on the liner notes, but I may dig up some more to post later if anyone is interested.

Beidh mé ag caint libh arís,

Brían.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wheels of the WOrld
From: Scabby Douglas
Date: 26 Jul 01 - 04:07 AM

Many thanks, Brían ..

This is exactly what I was looking for - it's a cracker of a song.

Cheers

SD


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wheels of the WOrld
From: Brían
Date: 26 Jul 01 - 05:01 AM

Your welcome, Doug.

Brían.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wheels of the WOrld
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 29 Jul 01 - 07:28 PM

Sorry about that, Doug!

Regards


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE WHEELS OF THE WORLD (from Bodleian)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 23 Jun 04 - 09:17 AM

From Bodleian Library Broadside Ballads. I have consolidated 3 broadsides: Harding B 20(190), Firth c.14(127), and Harding B 11(4120), which differ only in minor issues of phrasing. My editing consists mainly of selecting the phrases that fit the rhythm best; e.g. "old times" rather than "olden times." Note that there is a chorus and two more verses than the version given above.

THE WHEELS OF THE WORLD

Come all you true sons of Erin; attend to these few simple lines:
I'll sing you a song about spinning. It was a good trade in old times.
Some they spun worsted and yarn, and others they spun flax and tow.
By experience, my friends, you may learn how the wheels of the world they do go.

CHORUS: So these are the wheels of the world, my friends, you must all understand.
For three hundred years, they've been spinning destruction all over the land.

Luther spun out his existence, and so did King Henry the Eighth.
John Calvin by Satan's temptation, their maxims he did imitate.
Tom Cranmer he joined the new system, and swore he'd make spindles of steel.
Pluto himself did assist them, perdition that turned their wheel.

John Mitchell the brave son of Erin, declared that a spinner he'd be.
He got all his wheels in full motion, his dear native land to set free.
But Lord C—n—n the lieutenant, at spinning he was fully bent,
And unto the Isle of Bermuda the sons of Hibernia were sent.

Lord Nelson he was a good spinner on board of the ship Victory.
He was counted the greatest of spinners that ever set sail on the sea.
His shipmen were all famous spinners. For Nelson they spun very well,
But the French spun a ball in Trafalgar, and on the ship deck Nelson fell.

Billy Pitt too was a good spinner, and so was Lord Castlereagh.
Sure they spun out the Union from Ireland. To England they shipped it away.
Poor Billy spun out his existence, and banished in Charon's old boat.
Then Lord C—— saved his distance, by cutting the rim of his throat.

Napoleon he was a good spinner, for freedom did always advance.
Over deserts and great lofty mountains, he led on the brave sons of France.
Old Wellington he went a-spinning. His wheels they were at Waterloo;
But if Grouchy had never been bribed, the French would have split him in two.

Prince Albert came spinning to England. His wheel by a compass did steer.
He spun out a queen for his consort, and some little thousands a year.
John Bull must now go a-spinning. A few thousands more he must fork,
For the Queen has another young son that was spun in the city of Cork.

The factory masters are spinning. Their wheels they are turning away,
And now they are wanting their hands for to work thirteen hours a day.
They don't care a fig for the poor. They heed not their sighs nor their moans.
They don't care a pin if you work till you spin all the flesh off your bones.

The rich they are all famous spinners, and you are very well sure
They are always contriving a scheme to crush down the rights of the poor.
So if you're compelled to go spinning, let each of your spindles be steel.
Let "Liberty" then be your motto, and glory will turn your wheel.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wheels of the World
From: mikesamwild
Date: 30 Apr 10 - 09:06 AM

I've been looking for the words. John Doyle and Len Graham sing it. the tune I have is a Slip Jig 9/8 in G major. Also called Red Haired Molly and lots more names( see The Sesiion site) there's also a Reel of the same name, not the same tune!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wheels of the World
From: mikesamwild
Date: 30 Apr 10 - 09:08 AM

One name is TheNight Before larry was Stretched , sounds like another song title?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wheels of the World
From: Liberty Boy
Date: 01 May 10 - 02:10 AM

The tune is a slip jig called Moll Roe or if you like Máire Rua.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wheels of the World
From: mikesamwild
Date: 01 May 10 - 07:55 AM

was 'spinning' used commonly to describe wheeling and dealing? Today it's media spin like whipping a top a partuclar way or spin doctoring?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wheels of the World
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Dec 12 - 05:32 AM

He means spinning, as in spinning thread.

There are plenty of references "Some they spun worsted and yarn, and others they spun flax and tow."

Worsted, yarn, flax and tow are all types of fabric.

"So if you're compelled to go spinning, let each of your spindles be steel."

Spindles. Those things you use to turn raw wool into thread.


"Let "Liberty" then be your motto, and glory will turn your wheel."

Turning wheel - to a spinning wheel...those giant wheels you use to, again, turn raw wool into thread.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wheels of the World
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Aug 14 - 01:10 PM

THE WHEELS OF THE WORLD

Come all ye true sons of Erin, attend to these few nimble lines
I'll sing you a song about spinning, it was a good trade in its time.
Some they spun worsted and yarn, others they spun flax and tow
By experience, my friends, you can learn how the wheels of the world how they go.

William Pitt he was a great spinner, and so was Lord Castlereagh.
They spun the Union for Ireland to England they shipped it away.
Poor Pitt spun out his existence, then took a long trip on a boat.
Then Lord Castlereagh saved the distance,by cutting the rim of his throat.

Napolean he was a great spinner, he freedom did always advance.
Over deserts and high lofty mountains, he marched the brave sons of France.
Old Wellington he went a-spinning, his wheels they were at Waterloo;
But if Grouchy had never been bribed, thr French would have split him in two.

John Mitchell the true son of Erin, declared that a spinner he'd be.
He set all the wheels in motion, his dear native land to set free.
But John Bull that crafty old tyrant, at spinning he was fully bent.
And to Van Dieman's Land the sons of old Ireland were sent.

The factory owners are spinning, ther wheels are turning away.
And now they are wanting their hands to work thirteen hours a day.
They don't give a fig for the poor, they heed not the sighs or the moans,
Don't give a pin if you work 'til you spin all the flesh off your bones.

The rich they are all famous spinners, of that we are all very sure.
They are always contriving a sceme to crush down the rights of the poor.
So if you're compelled to go spinning, let each of your spindles be steel.
Let liberty then be your motto, and glory will turn your big wheel.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wheels of the World
From: GUEST,Anne Neilson
Date: 12 Aug 14 - 01:45 PM

Kevin Mitchell -- originally from Derry but a Glaswegian for the past 40 years or so -- sings a fine version of this, full of passion!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wheels of the World
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 13 Aug 14 - 01:36 PM

Nitchell adds a chorus:
"These are the wheels of the world,
My friend, you must undestand,
For three hundred years they've been spinning
DEstruction all over the land."


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