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Origins: Paw Paw Patch

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The Paw-Paw Patch (from Lomax: The Folk Songs of North America)


GUEST,Anastasia Luettecke 16 Aug 01 - 05:05 AM
GUEST,Roger the skiffler 16 Aug 01 - 06:09 AM
GUEST,Roger the skiffler 16 Aug 01 - 06:30 AM
masato sakurai 16 Aug 01 - 06:30 AM
SharonA 16 Aug 01 - 10:23 AM
MMario 16 Aug 01 - 10:25 AM
GUEST,Roger the skiffler 16 Aug 01 - 10:56 AM
MMario 16 Aug 01 - 11:04 AM
SharonA 16 Aug 01 - 03:42 PM
Joe Offer 21 Jun 03 - 12:51 PM
masato sakurai 21 Jun 03 - 01:07 PM
Joe Offer 21 Jun 03 - 01:15 PM
GUEST,Q 21 Jun 03 - 06:22 PM
GUEST,Q 21 Jun 03 - 06:52 PM
Stewie 21 Jun 03 - 08:22 PM
GUEST,Q 21 Jun 03 - 08:35 PM
Sorcha 21 Jun 03 - 09:17 PM
masato sakurai 21 Jun 03 - 09:49 PM
Billy the Bus 22 Jun 03 - 12:00 AM
DonMeixner 22 Jun 03 - 12:16 AM
Walking Eagle 22 Jun 03 - 09:03 PM
GUEST,Jim Dixon 23 Jun 03 - 01:32 PM
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MMario 23 Jun 03 - 01:56 PM
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Subject: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: GUEST,Anastasia Luettecke
Date: 16 Aug 01 - 05:05 AM

Does anyone remember a folk song that was rather widely sung by youngsters in the mid 70s or so that involved a young girl picking paw paws and being visited by a suitor? All I can remember is "Way down yonder in the paw paw patch." If anyone can hook me up with the lyrics and/or tune for this, I'd be very grateful!

luets@fidnet.com


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 16 Aug 01 - 06:09 AM

Lost in the mists of CRS, I'm afraid.I'm sure we sang it round campfires when I was a boy scout in the Jurassic period but I don't recall much of a story, just repeated chorus getting louder and faster! (something ,something ??possibly here sits Susan/Polly??? picking up paw paws, way down yonder in the paw paw patch?
RtS (one for (S)paw?)


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Subject: Lyr Add: PAW-PAW PATCH
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 16 Aug 01 - 06:30 AM

Well Google search counteracts CRS:
Paw-Paw Patch

Where, oh where, oh where is Susie?
Where, oh where, oh where is Susie?
Where, oh where, of where is Susie?
Way down yonder in the paw-paw patch.

Chorus: Picking up paw-paws; put 'em in a basket.
Picking up paw-paws; put 'em in a basket.
Picking up paw-paws;put 'em in a basket.
Way down yonder in the paw-paw patch.

Come along, boys, and let's go find her.
Come along, boys, and let's go find her.
Come along, boys, and let's go find her.
Way down yonder in the paw-paw patch

Repeat Chorus:

She's a queen of old Hawaii.
She's a queen of old Hawaii.
She's a queen of old Hawaii.
Way down yonder in the paw-paw patch.

Repeat Chorus:

She can teach you how to hulu.
She can teach you how to hulu.
She can teach you how to hulu.
Way down yonder in the paw-paw patch.

Repeat Chorus:

From:http://www.scoutsongs.com/lyrics/
RtS


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: masato sakurai
Date: 16 Aug 01 - 06:30 AM

Click here and here. You can also see children sing and dance here.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: SharonA
Date: 16 Aug 01 - 10:23 AM

Now, when you pick a paw paw
Or a prickly pear
And you prick a raw paw,
Well, next time, beware!
Don't pick the prickly pear by the paw.
When you pick a pear, try to use the claw!
But you don't need to use the claw
When you pick the pear of the big paw paw.
Have I given you a clue?
The bare necessities of life will come to you!
They'll come to you!

(Wrong song, I know, but it started going through my head when I read the words "paw paw")


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: MMario
Date: 16 Aug 01 - 10:25 AM

Dang! now she's doing song challenges on threads that aren't even song challenges! (You GO! SharonA RULZ!)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 16 Aug 01 - 10:56 AM

MMario, I haven't seen Disney's travesty of the Jungle Book but I believe that is where Sharon's song came form!
RtS


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: MMario
Date: 16 Aug 01 - 11:04 AM

?? I don't remember any paw-paws in that! or prickly pears for that matter... But you may well be right.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: SharonA
Date: 16 Aug 01 - 03:42 PM

Yep, MMario, they are there, in the song "Bare Necessities" from Walt Disney's "The Jungle Book", the animated version from the '60s. Baloo sang it to Mowgli. 'Tain't my song! (But I did write a parody of it – surprise! – for SONG CHALLENGE! part 1, which I will post tomorrow.)

Now back to our regularly scheduled thread...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 12:51 PM

In the Michael Finnegan thread, Jim Dixon said "Finnegan" and "Paw-Paw" had the same tune. They're similar, but not the same. I'll post a Paw-Paw tune soon. In the meantime, here's the Traditional Ballad Index entry.
-Joe Offer-

Paw-Paw Patch, The

DESCRIPTION: Playparty, with lyrics such as "Where oh where is pretty little (Susie/Liza/Nellie) (x3)? Way down yonder in the paw-paw patch." "Pickin' up paw-paws, puttin' 'em in her pockets." "Come along, boys, and let's go see her...."
AUTHOR: unknown
EARLIEST DATE: 1916 (Wolford)
KEYWORDS: playparty nonballad courting
FOUND IN: US(Ap,MW,So)
REFERENCES (3 citations):
Randolph 553, "Paw-Paw Peeling" (1 text plus a fragment, 1 tune)
Lomax-FSNA 46, "The Paw-Paw Patch" (1 text, 1 tune)
Silber-FSWB, p. 391, "Paw-Paw Patch" (1 text)

Roud #5038
RECORDINGS:
Group of children, "The Paw Paw Patch" (on JThomas01)
Pete Seeger, "Paw Paw Patch" (on PeteSeeger22)

CROSS-REFERENCES:
cf. "Where Is Old Elijah? (The Hebrew Children)" (tune & meter)
cf. "Going to Boston" (lyrics)
File: R553

Go to the Ballad Search form
Go to the Ballad Index Instructions

The Ballad Index Copyright 2006 by Robert B. Waltz and David G. Engle.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: masato sakurai
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 01:07 PM

In the same tune family. Other members are "The Monkey's Wedding" (The Monkey Married the Baboon's Sister), "John Brown Had a Little Indian", and "Ten Little Indians." James J. Fuld says in The Book of World-Famous Music, 5th ed. (p. 205) that "The music and words of The Monkey's Wedding appear in an American music manuscript about 1800." Song sheet (without music) is at American Memory:

The monkey's wedding. H. De Marsan, Publisher, 54 Chatham Street, N. Y. [n. d.]

~Masato


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Subject: DTADD: Paw-Paw Patch^^
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 01:15 PM

Here's the version from The Folk Songs of North America (Alan Lomax, 1960)

THE PAW-PAW PATCH

Where O where is pret-ty lit-tle Su-sie?
Where O where is pret-ty lit-tle Su-sie?
Where O where is pret-ty lit-tle Su-sie?
Way down yon-der in the paw-paw patch

    CHORUS
    Where O where is pretty little Susie?
    Where O where is pretty little Susie?
    Where O where is pretty little Susie?
    Way down yonder in the pawpaw patch

Pickin' up paw-paws, puttin' um in her pockets, etc.
(CHORUS)

Come on, boys, let's go find her, etc.
(CHORUS)


Click to play


    Dance Instructions (from Handy Play Party Book)

    FORMATION: Same as for Virginia Reel, boys in one line facing partners in opposite line. (Girls on the right as partners face the head of the Set.)
    1. Sing the first verse to the name of the girl at the head of the line, during which she turns to the right and skips down behind the line of girls, and continues on around behind the line of boys to place.
    2. During the second verse the same girl turns to the right and skips down behind her line, followed by the first boy and the whole line of boys one behind the other, until all are back in position.
    3. Without any break in the line, all sing the third verse. The first boy in the line joins hands with the first girl, each boy in line takes his partner and all follow the head couple around the same course and back into original positions.
    The head couple then retires to the foot of the set down the outside, and the first verse is sung again to the new girl at the head. Repeat for each girl in turn.
    Then play through again for the boys, “Where, O where is poor little Willie,” etc.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 06:22 PM

Just noted the occurrence of pawpaws (papaw in Webster's) in Disney's Jungle Book movie (Sharon A posting). This can mean either the North American pawpaw ot the South American papaya- neither of which occured in Mowgli's jungle.
Sure glad I didn't see that picture. Did he mix up the animals as well? Any polar bears?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 06:52 PM

PAWPAW PEELING was noted in "Syllabus Kentucky Folk-Songs," 1911, p. 38, Shearin and Combs (reference in Randolph).

The verses in Randolph:

Lyr. Add: PAWPAW PEELING

Here oh here comes pretty little Nellie (3x)
From way down on the Paw-Paw Bend.

She got choked on a Paw-Paw peeling (3x)
Way down on the Paw-Paw Bend.

Bye an' bye we'll go an' see her (3x)
Way down on the Paw-Paw Bend.

Come along boys an' let's go meet her (3x)
Way down yonder in the Par-Paw patch.

From Mrs Gaylord Hancock, Tulsa, Oklahoma, 1933, from Mr. T. W. Painter of Jonesboro, Arkansas, "who played the game in the '80's."
The tune is from the old hymn "Where Now Is Good Old Elijah?" Vance Randolph, "Ozark Folksongs," vol. 3, # 553, pp. 364-365.

Way down yonder in Pasquotank??


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: Stewie
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 08:22 PM

Not mentioned above in the ballad index entry, there was also a fine recording by Ed McCurdy on his set for Elektra: 'A Treasure Chest of American Folk Song'. It was the first track on the side devoted to 'The South'.

--Stewie.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 08:35 PM

PawPaw song and dance videos at: Pawpaw song and dance


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: Sorcha
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 09:17 PM

Wish I could grow paw paws here......too cold in winter. Only hardy to zone 6 and we are either 5 or 4...........


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Subject: Lyr & Tune Add: PAWPAW LAND
From: masato sakurai
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 09:49 PM

From B.A. Botkin, The American Play-Party Song (Frederick Ungar, 1937, 1963, pp. 289-290):
                      PAWPAW LAND

    Cf. "Bouquet Patch (Pawpaw Patch)," Shearin and Combs (Kentucky), p. 38 (excerpt); "Way Down in the Paw Paw Patch," Wolford (Indiana), p. 101.
    Played linke BOSTON, to a similar tune.

                                 A
            (Sung by Levi Wilcox, Noble, Cleveland County [, Oklahoma])

X:1
T:Pawpaw Land
M:2/4
L:1/8
K:F
B:B.A. Botkin, The American Play-Party Song, p. 290
C/ C/ D F> F|A c/ c/ A F|E/ E/ G G> G|E E/ E/ D C|
w:Come a-long, boys, an' le's go an' see her, Come a-long, boys, an' le's go an' see her,
C/ C/ D F> F|A c/ c/ A F|G G D E|F4|]
w:Come a-long, boys, an' le's go an' see her Down in Paw-paw land.

                                 B
             (Fanny W. Kelly, Jefferson, Grant County; Madeline Tarpley, Shamrock, Texas.)
       1. Come along boys, and we'll all go see her, (Three times.)
                Way down in Pawpaw land.

       2. Here, oh, here comes--[name of girl], etc.
       (Repeat, using names of other girls and boys.)
~Masato


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: Billy the Bus
Date: 22 Jun 03 - 12:00 AM

Joe, we 'danced(?)' to 'Paw Paw Patch' here in NZ. back in the '40's. Same routine as you published above, as I recall, but - one had to bend over and pick up an imaginary paw paw (while still skip-dancing) at the appropriate line. Wheww.. I couldn't do it now, a slipped disc would be the minimum injury .. ;)

BTW, haven't sampled a paw paw in a half century.

Cheers - Sam


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: DonMeixner
Date: 22 Jun 03 - 12:16 AM

Roger,

How can you know that Disney's movie of the Jungle Book is a travesty if you haven't seen it? Thats like saying I don't like tomoatos cuz I never tried them.

Don


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: Walking Eagle
Date: 22 Jun 03 - 09:03 PM

we once had a PawPaw tree in my umpa's back yard. They don't grow very tall. Maybe because it got full sun and didn't like it. The leaves were like those on a rhododendron, but much larger. They turned yellow in the fall and had a very pungent sour kind of smell. They fruit tasted kind of like a banana. Squirrels usually got most of ours.

There is a PawPaw WV, btw.

As for Disney? The Disney versions of Wind in the Willows are pretty bland.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: GUEST,Jim Dixon
Date: 23 Jun 03 - 01:32 PM

Here's an advertising poster for Dr. Munyon's Paw Paw Tonic, which was mainly "fermented papaya juice."

Even if you don't have Adobe Acrobat installed, you can see a smaller version, plus some information about Dr. James Munyon, in this page about Munyon Island, Florida.

Dr. Munyon was famous enough to be mentioned in the song Some Little Bug Is Going To Find You.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: GUEST,Jim Dixon
Date: 23 Jun 03 - 01:47 PM

Apparently the paw-paw and the papaya are the same species, Carica papaya.

Here's an article from Cornell University's website. Click on the links on that page to see pictures.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: MMario
Date: 23 Jun 03 - 01:56 PM

the North American native pawpaw (Asimina triloba) is a temperate tree fruit in the mostly tropical custard apple family,
Annonaceae. Pawpaw is also a common name for papaya (Carica papaya), a tropical fruit in the family Caricaceae. The two fruits are very different from each other, but some pawpaws do have a papaya-like flavor.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 23 Jun 03 - 02:22 PM

A long time ago, someone wondered what a pawpaw patch was. The tree sends out shoots underground that produce additional plants, ending up in a thicket of clones.

MMario is correct- the North American pawpaw and the South American papaya are not the same species, not even the same family in modern classifications. Another case where common names cause confusion since "pawpaw" has been applied to the larger, unrelated but somewhat similar, papaya as well as to the temperate plant.
The pawpaw is hardy, thus is grown in English as well as North American gardens. The papaya requires greenhouse treatment outside of tropical areas.

Grocery stores here in Canada always have imported papayas, both the ordinary and the very large "strawberry" varieties, in the produce section, but apparently no one has commercially raised the North American plant.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: GUEST,Jim Dixon
Date: 23 Jun 03 - 06:50 PM

I stand corrected. I was misled by the fact that the Cornell site says the papaya is also called a pawpaw.

Here's a page from Virginia Tech that has some good pictures of Asimina triloba.

I think I recall my mother (now age 90) saying that she was familiar with pawpaws where she grew up in Arkansas (We don't have them where I live in Minnesota) and that her mother liked to eat them, but nobody else in the family liked them. Mind you, poor people in that region, at that time, ate a lot of things we wouldn't eat today, because they needed the nourishment—possums, for instance.

This North Carolina State University site on poisonous plants says that pawpaws are "edible but some people suffer severe stomach and intestinal pain." It also says "The fruits generally fall to the ground before they are ripe and therefore must be ripened at home. Ripen outdoors -- the smell is overpowering."

This gives more meaning to the line "Pickin' up pawpaws; put 'em in your basket [or pocket]" – you pick them up; you don't pick them off the tree – and you put them in your basket or pocket; you don't eat them directly. The song contains advice on what to do with pawpaws!


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Subject: RE: Origins: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jan 07 - 11:33 AM

Funny, I went on line looking because I couldn't remember the last line of the song. What I remember is:

Pickin up paw paws puttin em in the basket
Pickin up paw paws puttin em in the basket
Pickin up paw paws puttin em in the basket
Way down yonder in the paw paw patch


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Subject: RE: Origins: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: Bill D
Date: 30 Jan 07 - 11:18 AM

you mean like in the 3rd post in this thread.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: Joybell
Date: 30 Jan 07 - 04:10 PM

I learned it - as a play-party dance - in school here in Australia in the 1950s. I now call it sometimes during dances. It's good for giving the band a break and involving little kids while the adults rest up.
Cheers, Joy


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Subject: RE: Origins: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: GUEST,Marlene
Date: 03 Mar 08 - 06:10 AM

We played this song and dance as a game in the playground of Young Wallsend public school, Australia in 1947 when I was 5. I remember it well as I have sung it ever since. It was one of my favourite games.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 08:18 PM

Leadbelly, the famous bluesman, recorded this song on one of his prison albums. I am sure it is an old folk song, but Leadbelly claimed to have wrote it.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: Janie
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 09:37 PM

We used to go out in the woods in the fall with my Pawpaw and gather paw paws.

I have a song fragment running through my head that I can't match with anything in which the first 2 lines of a verse are

Way down yonder in the paw paw patch
Met a little girl named sassafras....

Does anyone recall hearing that phrase in a dance song?

I'm associating it with a tune awfully close to "My Dixie Darling", so it may have been a made-up verse used by a dance band and caller somewhere.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 31 Jan 09 - 07:36 AM

I learned this in the Scouts in the uk in the 60s:

This is where I met my Suzie (3x)
Way down yonder in the Paw Paw patch

chorus
Picking up Paw Paws putting in the basket (3x)
Way down yonder in the Paw Paw patch

The chorus had people bending down picking up and putting Paw Paws over the shoulder in a basket.

This is where I courted Suzie

This is where I married Susie

This is where we raised our family

This is where I buried my Suzie

This is where her ghost goes wandering

I seem to remember that each verse had actions.

Other verses may exist

The oral tradition hey?

Cheers

Les


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Subject: RE: Origins: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: Azizi
Date: 31 Jan 09 - 08:51 AM

Les, I wonder if your version of Paw Paw Patch could be a source of the contemporary children handclap rhyme "When Susie Was A Baby". That rhyme lists stages in the life of Susie {or some other female}.

Here's one example of this rhyme from http://www.inthe80s.com/rhymes.shtml

when miss suzie was a baby a baby a baby when miss suzie was a baby she went like this weh weh

when miss suzie was a toddler a toddler a toddler when miss suzie was a toddler she went like this weh weh gimme a sucker

when miss suzie was a child a child a child when miss suzie was a child she went like this weh weh gimme a sucker mommy mommy tie my shoe

when miss suzie was a teenager a teenager a teenager when miss suzie was a teenager she went like this weh weh gimme a sucker, mommy tie my shoe, ooh aah I lost my bra I think I left it in my boyfriend's car

when miss suzie was a parent a parent a parent when miss suzie a parent she went like this weh weh gimme a sucker, mommy mommy tie my shoe, ooh aah i lost my bra I think I left it in my boyfriend's car, shut up kids im on the phone im tryin to get your father home

when miss suzie was grandma a grandma a grandma when miss suzie was a grandma she went like this weh weh gimme a sucker, mommy mommy tie my shoe, ooh aah i lost my bra i think i left it in my boyfriend's car, shut up i'm on the on the phone tryin to get your father home, cane cane where's my cane i need my cane where's my cane

when miss suzie was in heaven in heaven in heaven when miss suzie was in heaven she went like this weh weh gimme a sucker, mommy mommy tie my shoe, ooh aah i lost my bra i think i left it in my boyfriend's, car shut up kids im on the phone tryin to get your father home, cane cane where's my cane i need my cane where's my cane, look at my beautiful halo and shiny dress.

-snip-

[format changed for clarity]

Additional examples of this rhyme can be found on this Mudcat thread:

When Susie Was A Baby


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Subject: RE: Origins: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 31 Jan 09 - 02:13 PM

As sung by Burl Ives:

Where, oh where is dear little Susie?
Where, oh where is dear little Susie?
Where, oh where is dear little Susie?
Way down yonder in the paw-paw patch.

Chorus:
Pickin' up paw-paws, put 'em your pocket ("pawket")
Pickin' up paw-paws, put 'em your pocket
Pickin' up paw-paws, put 'em your pocket
Way down yonder in the paw-paw patch.

Come along, boys, and let's go find her.
Come along, boys, and let's go find her.
Come along, boys, and let's go find her.
Way down yonder in the paw-paw patch

Repeat Chorus:

And there might have been another verse or so, but not the Hawaii set mentioned above.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Origins: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 01 Feb 09 - 03:41 AM

Azizi,

they may be related - I feel sure your version is known in English playgrounds - it just sounds so familiar. The website is amazing. I am surprised that so many sound familiar. Do you know the work of the Opie Family?

The Language and Lore of School Children

Dave,the Burl Ives song is clearly related. Do you know where he got it from?

Cheers

Les


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Subject: RE: Origins: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 01 Feb 09 - 10:16 AM

Les:

I have no idea where he got it. It was on the first Burl Ives record I ever heard (as well as the first folksong record I ever heard) back in about 1945. After sixty-four years, I don't think I'd remember its provenance even if I'd known then, which I don't think I did.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Origins: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 01 Feb 09 - 01:45 PM

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Subject: RE: Origins: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Mar 09 - 09:34 PM

Well, the Burl Ives rendition is the one I remember, and yes, we did have them in Arkansas, south Arkansas anyway. The song I remember was the one with "pocket", not basket. Like most old folk songs, we all just sang it and loved it, and it really didn't need to mean a lot, for it was just plain fun.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Mar 09 - 01:49 PM

I was just thinking of this song today. I remember.


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Subject: Lyr Add: WAY DOWN IN THE PAW PAW PATCH (Indiana)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 12 May 09 - 06:13 PM

From The Play-Party in Indiana by Leah Jackson Wolford (Indianapolis: Indiana Historical Commission, 1916), page 101:

WAY DOWN IN THE PAW PAW PATCH.
Mrs. Leslie Beal, Versailles, Ind.*

Where oh where is pretty little ——?
Pretty little ——, pretty little ——?
Where oh where is pretty little ——?
Way down in the paw paw patch.

By and by we'll go and meet her,
Go and meet her, go and meet her,
By and by we'll go and meet her,
Way down in the paw paw patch.

Won't that be a happy meeting,
Happy meeting, happy meeting?
Won't that be a happy meeting,
Way down in the paw paw patch?

[*I assume this is the informant from whom the song was collected, not the songwriter.]


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Subject: RE: Origins: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: GUEST,happykt
Date: 02 Jun 10 - 11:47 PM

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Subject: RE: Origins: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jun 10 - 04:10 PM

KY 1970's. I grew up with:

Where oh where is sweet little ___
Way down yonder in the paw paw patch.

She's pickin' up pawpaws puttin' em in her pocket
Way down yonder in the paw paw patch.

Come on ___, let's go find her
Way down yonder in the paw paw patch.

My son and neice taught the song to a Bluegrass group abou four years ago. It was the first time I'd heard it with instruments. It was fun to hear it sung with the fiddle, guitar, banjo, and mandalin.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Paw Paw Patch, anyone?
From: GUEST,Elaina A
Date: 20 Jun 11 - 02:40 PM

My Grandmother used to sing a song that went

" I lost my old grey mare, and where do you reckin I found her"
" I found her in the paw paw patch with buzzards all around her"

thats all i remember of the song, it had a catchy tune to it and my Grandma was born in 1914, i have no date to put to the song and have not been able to find anything even close to it. I truely wish I had asked her about it before she passed away in 2007. Good luck finding your song.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Paw Paw Patch
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jan 13 - 07:53 PM

I love that movie. One of my favorites to watch with my grandkids.

Tarra


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