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GUEST,lah1957 16 Oct 01 - 06:35 PM
Tiger 16 Oct 01 - 07:03 PM
katlaughing 16 Oct 01 - 07:18 PM
SINSULL 16 Oct 01 - 07:21 PM
GUEST,Fortunato 16 Oct 01 - 07:24 PM
Jim Dixon 16 Oct 01 - 08:01 PM
Art Thieme 16 Oct 01 - 08:04 PM
Jim Dixon 16 Oct 01 - 08:09 PM
RoyH (Burl) 17 Oct 01 - 09:56 AM
DougR 17 Oct 01 - 02:49 PM
Art Thieme 17 Oct 01 - 04:45 PM
Kaleea 17 Oct 01 - 10:27 PM
GUEST,LeeAnne 14 Nov 01 - 01:15 PM
DougR 14 Nov 01 - 01:27 PM
GUEST,LeeAnne 01 Jan 02 - 10:42 PM
Rolfyboy6 01 Jan 02 - 11:10 PM
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Subject: Old Folk album
From: GUEST,lah1957
Date: 16 Oct 01 - 06:35 PM

I'm trying to find information re: an old LP I listened to as a child. It was a single male guitarist/vocalist, probably recorded in the early - mid sixties, as far as I know. I cannot remember the artist's name, but I seem to remember something in the liner notes about his being new, with fresh interpretatons of these old songs. The titles I remember from the album were:

The Erie Canal
Goodnight, Irene
Blue Tail Fly
Swallowed A Fly
Big Rock Candy Mountain
I Ride An Old Paint
Go Tell Aunt Rhody

I think there were more songs, but cannot recall them. I still had the album when MY son was small (18 years ago) and used to play for him, but now can't find it. I know this is pitifully little information to go on, but if anyone might know anything about this, it would sure be appreciated.

Thanks! LeeAnne


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Subject: RE: Help: Old Folk album
From: Tiger
Date: 16 Oct 01 - 07:03 PM

It sounds like a Burl Ives album, but he was hardly NEW in the 60s.


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Subject: RE: Help: Old Folk album
From: katlaughing
Date: 16 Oct 01 - 07:18 PM

I agree, Tiger, that's who came to mind, but not new, as you say.


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Subject: RE: Help: Old Folk album
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 Oct 01 - 07:21 PM

LeeAnne - I am certain it is Burl Ives. His LPs are always available on Ebay. Or you can get CD collections with some of these songs. Good luck. Check the DT above for lyrics.


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Subject: RE: Help: Old Folk album
From: GUEST,Fortunato
Date: 16 Oct 01 - 07:24 PM

It really can't be anyone else. unless I'm mistaken, Burl Ives was the only one hokey enough to record, "I swallowed a fly". Even Pete Seeger wouldn't do that. Would he?


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Subject: RE: Help: Old Folk album
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 16 Oct 01 - 08:01 PM

I agree that it sounds like Burl Ives. I can't find any one CD that has all the songs you mention, though. It may be out of print. But look at this web page for Burl Ives' Greatest Hits. It has some RealAudio clips you can play to see if you recognize the voice. Then you can look at this page to see some other albums of his.

I don't necessarily recommend that site as a good place to buy from, however. But if you click on the "Help Support the Mudcat" box, you may find a way to buy an album so that Mudcat gets a commission.

By the way, does your son still like folk music?


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Subject: RE: Help: Old Folk album
From: Art Thieme
Date: 16 Oct 01 - 08:04 PM

This could easily be one of Pete Seeger's LPs for Folkways that were part of a series (2 or 3) of those called Americas Favorite Ballads. They might still be available from Smithsonian Folkways.

The "Old Lady That Swallowed A Fly", written by Canadian, Allan Mills, was on one ot those I'm pretty sure.

"Big Rock Candy Mountain" was by Harry "Hawire Mac" McClintock but was almost Burl Ives theme song---along with "Blue Tail Fly".

Hope this helps.

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Help: Old Folk album
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 16 Oct 01 - 08:09 PM

Fortunato: Either you're pulling my leg, or you don't know Pete Seeger very well. Click here.


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Subject: RE: Help: Old Folk album
From: RoyH (Burl)
Date: 17 Oct 01 - 09:56 AM

My submission is that it is not Burl Ives, unless the song list has an error. I've never heard Burl Ives sing 'Goodnight Irene'. I've heard him sing all the others though. Art's suggestion sounds quite feasible to me.


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Subject: RE: Help: Old Folk album
From: DougR
Date: 17 Oct 01 - 02:49 PM

Burl, I have many Burl Ives recordings and you're right. I've never heard him sing that song either and it's not on any of my LPs or CDs. I'd go with Art too.

DougR


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Subject: RE: Help: Old Folk album
From: Art Thieme
Date: 17 Oct 01 - 04:45 PM

Jim Dixon,

We just gave that Seeger CD to our new 7 month old granddaughter. Small world.

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Help: Old Folk album
From: Kaleea
Date: 17 Oct 01 - 10:27 PM

Burl Ives came to my mind immediately, also. Didn't Peter Paul & Mary record "I Swallowed a Fly", or am I just having another gray moment?


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Subject: RE: Help: Old Folk album
From: GUEST,LeeAnne
Date: 14 Nov 01 - 01:15 PM

Thanks, all. I have checked the Pete Seeger, but that wasn't it. It did jar my memory of a few more songs that were on the album, however: Foggy Dew and Old Dan Tucker. I will check the Burl Ives links.

PS: Jim, no my son who will be 18 in 2 weeks now likes, and I hate to say it, Korn, Limp Bizkit, Mettalica, oh, I can't go on. Bleh.......... :-)


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Subject: RE: Help: Old Folk album
From: DougR
Date: 14 Nov 01 - 01:27 PM

Lee Anne: Let us know if you find the album and who the artist is, will you please? Burl Ives has such a distinctive voice, I'd be surprised if you didn't recognize his voice as the lone vocalist (if it's him of course) when you listen to the tunes on the website.

DougR


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Subject: RE: Help: Old Folk album
From: GUEST,LeeAnne
Date: 01 Jan 02 - 10:42 PM

I still haven't been able to find any album by anyone with all the songs I know were on the album. I did listen to the tunes on the Burl Ives website, but it was not the same voice and the versions and phrasing of the songs was different. I'll just have to keep looking!

Thanks for all your assistance.......


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Subject: RE: Help: Old Folk album
From: Rolfyboy6
Date: 01 Jan 02 - 11:10 PM

I think these are some Cisco Houston vinyl album tunes that have never been re-released on CD. I have some on a weird three LP set called "Folksong and Minstrelsy" that came out in the early 60s. They mostly seem to be stuff from Vanguard Records. All that's available now are various "Best of ..." compilations. The combination of tunes rings bells in the attics of my memory. If the singer has a great manly baritone it's probably Cisco.


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