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Subject: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Clinton Hammond Date: 15 Dec 01 - 06:46 PM This one goes out to those of use who are using The Pub Prop... Especially us guitar players... Please to hit my homepage Sword For Hire and look for the link to "My Latest Inspiration" and lemme know what ya think... I'm kinda very please with myself... ;-) |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: CarolC Date: 15 Dec 01 - 07:25 PM What a great idea, Clinton. How did you fabricate them? Do you have a metalworking shop? |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Clinton Hammond Date: 15 Dec 01 - 07:37 PM Did ya not read the page CarolC? There was no fabrication involved... just bodging together of old junk... If I knew ANYTHING about fabrication, I'd be tempted to try making them for sale though... I'm gonna take 'em to my gig tonight, and road test 'em... ;-) |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: GUEST,Chicken Charlie Date: 15 Dec 01 - 07:40 PM Awesome. |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: CarolC Date: 15 Dec 01 - 07:41 PM Sorry Clinton. I scanned it but I didn't read carefully. I'll have to go back and look at it again. Great ideas, though. |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Clinton Hammond Date: 15 Dec 01 - 07:42 PM Ya mean I spent ll that time, slaving over a hot keyboard, so you could just SCAN?!?!?!?! Some thanks!!! LOL!!!!!!! |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: CarolC Date: 15 Dec 01 - 07:44 PM The coffee's taking a long time to kick in today. What can I say? ;-) |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Clinton Hammond Date: 15 Dec 01 - 07:45 PM LOL!! Just so long as we're both chuckling eh... ;-) |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Devilmaster Date: 15 Dec 01 - 07:46 PM Don't worry CarolC, I'll bitch slap him tonight for talking back to you. |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Clinton Hammond Date: 15 Dec 01 - 07:50 PM Takes one to slap one... |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: CarolC Date: 15 Dec 01 - 08:01 PM Wow guys! Can I watch? |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Clinton Hammond Date: 15 Dec 01 - 08:05 PM LOL!! glad we can entertain, Carol ;-) |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Bill D Date: 15 Dec 01 - 08:26 PM clever setup there!...I use stuff like that all the time, though not for guitars. I have two of those lamps on my shop, but I wanted them on the wall...so, I dismounted two stirrup holders from an old gynecologist's table and the lamps fit perfectly, while the radial-arm saw sits on the table!...and one of the stirrups is noy a handle on a two-wheel cart I use at festivals. Clinton makes a very good point...a tool is what you make it. Many useful items are sometimes MORE useful in other ways... (and I'll bet that you add some new twists to the setup after a little experimentation, Clinton) |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 15 Dec 01 - 08:47 PM Clever stuff - I'll stick with the basic Pub Prop. If I needed to keep the end off the floor to stop damaging a cable or something, I think I'd probably stick on old boot under it. One I wasn't wearing at the time I mean.
But I like the idea of using ingenuous Prop - which is far more reliable and handy than those monstrous and expensive guitar stands you see sometimes - as a jumping off spot for other inventions. What's needed now is some device for keeping bodhrans safe and out of the way of the drink and the passing feet. And maybe a handy device for keeping the drink safe when someone barges into the table. |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: CarolC Date: 15 Dec 01 - 08:59 PM What if the crosspieces on the stool you're using are round? Would it still work then? |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Clinton Hammond Date: 15 Dec 01 - 09:09 PM sure carol... I'd imagine anyway... Ya'd just have to put and extra "reef" on the tightening bolt... This is where the size stuff I mentioned comes in... if yer setting this up to hold a great huge heavy guitar, then you'd want real, machined pieces and such... but my 'near-parlor' Seaguls are hardly any weight at all... "What's needed now is some device for keeping bodhrans safe and out of the way of the drink and the passing feet." Have one already... it's called a house... leave the damn thing there! LOL!! ;-) |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Bill D Date: 15 Dec 01 - 09:21 PM if I had a stool with a round rung, I sure MAKE a flat spot on it pretty fast before I'd use a clamp like that. You could even cut a piece of plywood to fit nn top of the rungs and have temporary shelves under the stool to hold extra capos, pick boxes, doughnuts, hand grenades...etc... ;>) |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Banjer Date: 15 Dec 01 - 10:19 PM "What's needed now is some device for keeping bodhrans safe and out of the way of the drink and the passing feet." WHY??? |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Bill D Date: 15 Dec 01 - 11:13 PM lawsuits....*grin* |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: katlaughing Date: 15 Dec 01 - 11:42 PM So now you have a "butt prop," too, for the geetars that is! Pretty neat stuff, Clinton and I like your explanations! My dad is a welder; hates working with wood. He welded himself a lazy susan stand with arms coming out from the top of it, kind of like the pup props, each one holding a different instrument. I think he has a slot for his fiddle, banjo, and mando, not sure if he has any others on there. The whole thing is balanced/weighted so that taking one off does not make it fall over. He turns it as he's singing, putting one instrument up and taking another off. I'll have to see if I can find a picture of it. |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: catspaw49 Date: 16 Dec 01 - 01:38 AM Great job CH....I'm glad to see you're worth a shit after all. I'll go to the bathroom right now in your honor! Like Bill, I have a ton of wacky rig things that work and there is nothing more satifying than coming up with one of those "simple and elegant" solutions, as they say in Physics. Congrats man! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Roughyed Date: 16 Dec 01 - 05:10 AM A device for keeping bodhrans safe? I think it's called a wheelie bin...... Sorry, couldn't resist. |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Clinton Hammond Date: 16 Dec 01 - 06:05 AM So, I'm back from my gig tonight at last, and I have to say the BUTT PROP (Now the official name) works like a charm! The space taken up by a bar stool, with it's flat top for pints, towels, picks, capoes, smokes, joints, condoms, tips, snots, is a MUCH better use of space than the standard duo, or trio instrument stand... The whole affair might be slightly bigger, but it's SOOO much more versatile... I gotta say, as biased as I am, I'm totally sold! ;-) |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Banjer Date: 16 Dec 01 - 06:32 AM I gotta say, as biased as I am, I'm totally sold! Cool!! Order a dozen of them and send ME the money!! LOL!! Glad to hear the reports of your success, CH! |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Mooh Date: 16 Dec 01 - 08:08 AM CH. Cool idea. I'm gonna rip you off, except I'll make my own pub props. I would loose those lower clamps if were you, they look like things which could easily disappear at load-in and load-out time, or in a snow bank somewhere. (I almost forgot, you don't really have snow in Windsor do you. teehee.) I think I would reinforce the stool rungs where the butt-clamps (trademark that one) are mounted (mounting butt-clamps, on Sunday morning no less), and then drill an appropriate sized hole for the butt props so that you could eliminate the clamps. For reinforcement you could simply use wood or a piece of flat steel on each side of the rung. Without reinforcement, the rung could split in time. Thanks for sharing. Mooh. |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: katlaughing Date: 16 Dec 01 - 10:25 AM So I get royalties for the name, right?:-) |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Rick Fielding Date: 16 Dec 01 - 11:54 AM My Gawd (however one chooses to see him/her/it) Clinton! This is a pretty scary thing for me to admit on only four cups of coffee....but your mind works EXACTLY like mine! My whole bar career was marked by similar inventions. The only difference is that yours are permanently archived, and mine eventually disappeared into the mists of time...remembered only by myself and bar patrons whose memory banks still function. Some examples: The "Stool-Amp". The "All purpose console". (music stand, cassette recorder, song book depository, double mike stand, and nifty archaic wooden advertising sign) On my last day of playing bars (Yorkdale Inn, Toronto) I personally killed three patrons with my bare hands who'd requested Spancil Hill for the umpteenth time. I served my time (the judge was English and let me off with community service and a stern warning) and had no more use for 'bar inventions". It didn't stop however, and currently in my basement/teaching room, are: The four-way music stand/student snack bar/music book depository. (in charming green with Victorian stenciling) A box of custom made brass banjo mutes (play to your heart's content, while the baby sleeps!) A 'cathole' door (the house is full of 'em) 'cause when our cats smell "hardshell case fuzz", they don't just politely knock to get in, they try to tear the damn door down! .....and so much more! Cheers Rick
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Clinton Hammond Date: 16 Dec 01 - 02:28 PM "drill an appropriate sized hole" No... see, the basic idea of this is that -I- don't have to haul around a bar stool... I just use one from the pub... so drilling and such is out of the question... The "lower clamp" is the whole crux of it... "I'll make my own pub props." Why?? When Brians are soooo good, sooo cheap, and soooo easy to get?? They are a steal at twice the price! "hardshell case fuzz" I know what yer sayin' mate! ;-) |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: katlaughing Date: 16 Dec 01 - 02:31 PM So why don't they line cat beds with that stuff? My cats love it, too! |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Rick Fielding Date: 16 Dec 01 - 02:39 PM Picture a house where every inside door has a small semi-circular opening at the bottom. There is NO privacy from prying little eyes here. If we had children (never, never, never!) they would be as tyrannical and self-indulgent as Kate and Allie, our dictatorial fuzzballs. And NO, we didn't name them! Their previous owner watched dumb sitcoms. Rick |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Clinton Hammond Date: 16 Dec 01 - 02:59 PM You do know of course, that you can change a cat's name at will eh? They don't give a rats ass what we call them... It's SOOO below them... And don't be afraid of taking them down a peg or two every now and again... For instance, I dressed mine up the other day, in bells and a wee santa hat! She hated it, but tough! ;-) |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Jeri Date: 16 Dec 01 - 03:16 PM Clinton, where's the Kat, you can always buy them their own guitar case! (Psst, Rick: another invention - the Cat Case.) I don't care about mine, as long as they don't pee in it. |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Clinton Hammond Date: 16 Dec 01 - 04:12 PM The photo of the cat? It's still on the camera... I haven't downloaded it yet... |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Mooh Date: 16 Dec 01 - 04:36 PM CH. I was supposing you might play places without appropriate barstools too, so that you might also have your own. That's all. As for PubProps being so cheap and easy to get, I'll tell you that where I live that simply isn't the case unless I buy online. Either way I can make one quicker and easier and within the hour. Cool idea this, but I like a poor man's solution. Mooh. |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Clinton Hammond Date: 16 Dec 01 - 04:49 PM I'm a folk musician by trade... They don't come much poorer than me Mooh! LOL!!!!! Without appropriate barstools is a good point though, but in that case, I guess I'd just fall back to my old standard, 3 pronged chrome tube stand, and lose the benefits of the barstool top... most of the places I play currently though, have, if anything, too many barstools! LOL!!! (and too many commas as well) ;-) |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Clinton Hammond Date: 17 Dec 01 - 12:27 AM oh ya... and if anyone here knows Brian Rathmill of the Pub Prop fame, tell him to check his email o.k.! LOL!! |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Mooh Date: 17 Dec 01 - 08:24 AM CH, folk musician at large. I know whereof you speak. The folk musician without a girlfriend being homeless and all that. Good thing I convinced a good girl to take me on so many years ago... I think I'll add the Pubprop to my list of suggested items for students to buy. Along with the usual decent instrument, case, and tuner, a stand or such-like is almost necessary nowadays. A wallhanger is almost as good except that so many people take their guitars out that the portability of a Pubprop seems like the clincher. Will play for food. Mooh.
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Clinton Hammond Date: 17 Dec 01 - 02:35 PM "Will play for food." food schmmod... Will play for pints! |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Mooh Date: 17 Dec 01 - 02:57 PM Oh, so you still have a liver? That takes me back... |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Big Mick Date: 17 Dec 01 - 11:21 PM Dammit all, Clinton, you asshole!! Your damn design got me thinking so much today, that I couldn't hardly concentrate on my day job..........LOL. I think I have found a refinement that will even work a bit better for me. It will do the same thing as yours, but the bottom will be adjustable for various sized instruments. This is fun. All the best, Mick |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Clinton Hammond Date: 17 Dec 01 - 11:30 PM As my web site says BMick, I'm working on that as well... but I gotta find someone who welds... and maybe someone who can machine 'real' parts for this beast as well... ;-) |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Big Mick Date: 17 Dec 01 - 11:43 PM Yeah, it shouldn't be too tough. One of my best friends is a professional welder. If you want him to fabricate something, PM me or email me at mlane@accn.org. I won't swipe your idea, but I will be happy to have him make it for you. Give me a good reason to slip over to Windsor and have a jar with you. Mick |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Willie-O Date: 18 Dec 01 - 09:08 AM unfortunately Mick, "slipping" over the line doesn't seem too popular an activity these days... I guess you know what works for you Clinton--seeing as you have a nice little circuit carved out, judging from the schedule, and thus are familiar with the available furniture to clamp things to. Myself, I made a lazy-Susan style rotating guitar/mando hanger by starting with an old gooseneck mike stand. Cut out a circular piece of 3/4" plywood , about 1 ft diameter, slip it over the gooseneck (so it sits on the height-adjustment nut-thingy) and cut 3 slots in the edges, custom fitted to hang my babies snugly. (Took a few unpleasant occurrences before I had them secure though). It's durable, cheap, pretty secure, has a platform for capos and other gadgets, and of course the height is adjustable and it spins around at my convenience. Not as portable as your clever contraption, but what the hell. I have a truck. My main motivation was to not spend seventy bucks. W-O
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Steve in Idaho Date: 18 Dec 01 - 10:52 AM Too cool - how about a couple of close-ups of the upper clamp? Very good bit of scabbing CH!!! Steve |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Date: 18 Dec 01 - 11:24 AM Got sucked in to browsing your site, Clinton. Those chain-mail gloves: to avoid guitarist callouses or for playing washboard? RtS (I know people who take their own tankard to the pub, but their own stool??) |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Clinton Hammond Date: 18 Dec 01 - 12:27 PM Willie-O ""slipping" over the line doesn't seem too popular an activity these days... " And for no good reason at all! The border surely isn't slow that's for sure... I know a few guys (mosly performers, with one goof ball exception) who cross back and forth all the time and do not have problem one... Norton1... Upper clamp eh? Next time I have the gear out befor a gig, I will try to remember... good idea that... RtS... Maille gloves... actually, it's just glove... and it was really just an experiment to get rid of some old links, and to see if I could do it... It's on the back burner right now, thinking over improvements... ;-) |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Steve in Idaho Date: 19 Dec 01 - 11:12 AM Thanks Clinton - It really looks like a superb idea - Steve |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Clinton Hammond Date: 19 Dec 01 - 02:58 PM Ta Nort! ;-) |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 19 Dec 01 - 03:39 PM I still think an old boot with the guitar sitting on it wold be more portable and reliable as an add-on to the indispensable pub-prop.
Bar stools like those aren't too common in the places I play and drink. Tables are - the only problem being that sometimes the edges are angled in a way that means the pub prop won't clamp. Turning it upside down can get round that with some tables. But I'm hoping sometime Brian will come up with a model that works ok on all tables.
The great thing about the pub-prop is, it's small and hassle-free, and versatile. And buying online from Brian is probably cheaper than you'd pay for it in any music-store that had the naus to get hold of them. |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Clinton Hammond Date: 19 Dec 01 - 03:49 PM The whole thing is to keep the guitar from having to sit on it's butt... An old boot ain't gonna achieve that... |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 19 Dec 01 - 04:04 PM I get the point. But an old unlaced boot would be a comfortable place for a guitar to rest its butt, with plenty of room for the plug-in jacks etc.
But I'm not knocking the invention. Old boots aren't culturally normative in lots of places, especially in association with expensive instruments. |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Clinton Hammond Date: 19 Dec 01 - 04:07 PM LOL!!!!!! Culturally normative...
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: Steve in Idaho Date: 19 Dec 01 - 06:00 PM I think he meant indigenous - *G* - I also can see where one could build this as a one piece item and clamp it to a table, or about anything else with a ledge. I have a bookshelf/entertainment center that I wouldn't mind having one of these on. I could put my guitar up there and not have to take it in and out of the case all of the time. Not to mention that when we have jam sessions I'd have a place to put my guitar when I am playing host. Listen CH - there is more to this than meets the eye. There are folks out there who have made millions off of little ideas like this. I'll never win the lottery, never buy a ticket, so when I see one of these things its like - "Hey - could this be something others would use?" Steve |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 19 Dec 01 - 06:32 PM What I mean is there are places where, if you balanced a £1000 guitar on an old boot they'd look at you funny, and some people worry about that kind of thing.
Myself, if I had a jack plug sticking ot of the end of my guitar (not a £1000 one by very long way)I'd go for the boot, if I was in a pub. Most people think you're pretty strange if you've got a guitar anyway.
But as a fixture in a home, I think the Clinton Clamp could be handy. |
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Subject: RE: GEAR: Wanna see what I made?!?!?! From: marty D Date: 19 Dec 01 - 06:51 PM I think my car needs to go into the shop and get all it's clinton clamps overhauled. They've been rattling like crazy lately. marty |
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