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GUEST,Stefan 26 Mar 02 - 04:49 AM
GUEST,Stefan 26 Mar 02 - 04:52 AM
GUEST,Mikey joe 26 Mar 02 - 04:56 AM
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GUEST,Stefan 26 Mar 02 - 05:01 AM
Scabby Douglas 26 Mar 02 - 05:14 AM
GUEST,Mikey joe 26 Mar 02 - 05:15 AM
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Subject: Scots Language in 'Freedom Come All Ye'
From: GUEST,Stefan
Date: 26 Mar 02 - 04:49 AM

Hi all,

I'm a native German speaker, but I've managed learning a wee bit of Scots over the years through regular listening to Scottish music. Yet I've never been able to fully understand Hamish Henderson's classic "Freedom Come All Ye", which many of you might know and love as much as myself. This is some heavy stuff ;) Might some of you Scotsmen please enlighten me in the meaning of some words and the general message of that song? What I think is that it's an "internationalist people's liberation song", but maybe there's more behind it?

I've put the lyrics (as given on Dick Gaughan's page) below, and I've put the unclear expressions in capital letters and added a few comments. Yes, there are many capital letters ;)

Roch the win i the clear day's dawin Blaws the clouds HEILSTER-GOWDIE owre the bay But there's MAIR NOR A ROCH roch win blawin ("more nor a rough"? What kind of expression is that?) Thro the Great Glen o the warl the day It's a thocht that wad GAR OUR ROTTANS (no idea at all) Aa thae rogues that gang GALLUS fresh an gay Tak the road an seek ither loanins Wi thair ill-ploys tae sport an play

(Second verse is relatively clear, so now the 3rd)

Sae come aa ye AT HAME WI FREEDOM (at home with freedom? what does Henderson try to say with that?) Never heed whit the HOUDIES croak for Doom In yer hous aa the bairns o Aidam Will fin breid, barley-bree an paintit room WHAN MCLEAN MEETS WI'S FRIENS IN SPRINGBURN (who's "McLean & his friends" and why "Springburn"?) Aa thae roses an GEEANS will turn tae blume An a black LAUD frae YONT (=yonder?) Nyanga DINGS THE FELL gallows o the burghers doun.

Thanks so much for your help.

Greetings, Stefan


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Subject: RE: Help: Scots Language in 'Freedom Come All Ye'
From: GUEST,Stefan
Date: 26 Mar 02 - 04:52 AM

OOPS!

I just found that there's already a thread for that topic.

Dreadfully sorry.

Yet further help is still appreciated.

Cheers, Stefan


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Subject: RE: Help: Scots Language in 'Freedom Come All Ye'
From: GUEST,Mikey joe
Date: 26 Mar 02 - 04:56 AM

Scroll down to the bottonm of the Dick Gaughan page for a word for word translation.
http://www.dickalba.demon.co.uk/songs/texts/freecaye.htm
Mj


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Subject: RE: Help: Scots Language in 'Freedom Come All Ye'
From: GUEST,Mikey joe
Date: 26 Mar 02 - 04:56 AM

Also of interest

http://www.scotlandonsunday.com/index.cfm?id=316172002

Mj


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Subject: RE: Help: Scots Language in 'Freedom Come All Ye'
From: GUEST,Stefan
Date: 26 Mar 02 - 05:01 AM

Thanks,

I had the lyrics from another source which stated they're from Dick Gaughan's page. I'd better have had a look there first, for there are all the answers I could have hoped for.

The newspaper article was quite enlightening, too.

Thanks.

Stefan


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Subject: RE: Help: Scots Language in 'Freedom Come All Ye'
From: Scabby Douglas
Date: 26 Mar 02 - 05:14 AM

This song is among the very very few which always make the hair stand up on the back of my neck.

It's a masterpiece of meaning set to a stirring and inspiring melody.

I went to the Dick Gaughan site URL posted above, and even though I have known the song for years, re-reading the lyrics, and Dick's translation, I was very moved.

How many songs can do that to you?

No matter how many times you've sung it, or heard it, it always siezes and lifts you . There are other songs that can do that, but not too many..

Cheers

Steven


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Subject: RE: Help: Scots Language in 'Freedom Come All Ye'
From: GUEST,Mikey joe
Date: 26 Mar 02 - 05:15 AM

another link
http://www.folkmusic.net/htmfiles/inart486.htm

Mj


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Subject: RE: Help: Scots Language in 'Freedom Come All Ye'
From: Jon Bartlett
Date: 26 Mar 02 - 02:05 PM

I haven't got any hair on the back of me neck but when I heard it sung while driving on the freeway, I had to pull over and weep.


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Subject: RE: Help: Scots Language in 'Freedom Come All Ye'
From: Big Tim
Date: 26 Mar 02 - 02:08 PM

Can I also just add a line of tribute to this great song, also Dick Gaughan's version of it (with Five Hand Reel), also Dick's minor "treatise" about the song on his website. You certainly don't have to be Scottish to appreciate this song, it's one of the very, very greatest.


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Subject: RE: Help: Scots Language in 'Freedom Come All Ye'
From: Dicho
Date: 26 Mar 02 - 02:23 PM

Probably on the other thread, but here is the click for Dick Gaughans site. It deserves attention for others as well: Gaughan


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Subject: RE: Help: Scots Language in 'Freedom Come All Ye'
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 27 Mar 02 - 06:22 PM

See also My Songbook for some history. As to John McLean, there are a few more songs about him.


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