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GUEST,sylvie 12 Sep 02 - 08:32 AM
MMario 12 Sep 02 - 08:40 AM
Dave Bryant 12 Sep 02 - 09:40 AM
GUEST,sylvie 12 Sep 02 - 10:31 AM
IanC 12 Sep 02 - 10:55 AM
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Subject: choral sheet music
From: GUEST,sylvie
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 08:32 AM

Hi, Who can help me with this ? I am a member of a choir (young male and female adults) and I've been looking for the sheetmusic of a lot of Irish folk songs. But up to now I haven't found them anywhere. Well, I've got the "melody" and the lyrics of most of the songs, but what I need is choral sheetmusic => soprano, alt and bass + piano sheet music. I've been to several music shops and they all say this does not excist. Hard to believe this is true. I hope someone can help me find what I'm looking for. Thanks, Sylvie


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Add: choral sheet music
From: MMario
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 08:40 AM

It's not the "normal" arrangement for folk music - though you find the occasional one that is arranged in that manner. Your best bet is to find someone who can arrange the music working from the melody. - or melody and chords.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Add: choral sheet music
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 09:40 AM

Are there any songs that you are specifically looking for ?

Don't you have any tenors in your choir - I know that we're rare birds, but most choral music is SATB (except for Berlioz who seemed to have something against Altos).


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Add: choral sheet music
From: GUEST,sylvie
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 10:31 AM

Indeed, there are no tenors in our choir. Strange ? Yeah, maybe .... Which songs am I looking for ? Quite a few really : Never wed an old man Loch lomond Irish Rover Old maid in the garret Waxies Dargle When I was single Love is pleasing Hello, Patsy Fagan I'll tell me ma Courtin' in the kitchen Goodbye Johnny dear Come down the mountain Kaie Daley Dicey Reilly Fiddler's Green Brennan on the Moor

I don't need all of them of course. Just a few of them would be great ...


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Add: choral sheet music
From: IanC
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 10:55 AM

Sylvie

If you're looking for sheet music, one of the best places to look is the Lester S. Levy Collection. This has printable sheet music online.

Most of the songs you mention probably won't have been arranged for choirs, but you should be able to find Loch Lomond and possibly one or two others fairly easily.

Music shops also often have arrangements of well-loved Irish songs, so you can try there. Are you in US or UK? Might make a difference.

Cheers!
Ian


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Add: choral sheet music
From: masato sakurai
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 10:56 AM

Here is a list of Irish Sheet Music. Hope it may help.

~Masato


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Add: choral sheet music
From: IanC
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 12:18 PM

Here's a list of some Irish songs in Levy:

Finnegans Wake
The Rovin' Irish Boy
My Irish Molly O
My Molly From Mayo
When Irish Eyes are Smiling
The Mountain Dew
Lanigan's Ball
Wearing of The Green
Molly Bawn
Last Rose of Summer
The Minstrel Boy

:-)
Ian

PS were you just looking for Irish songs? about half of the titles you gave aren't specifically Irish, and Loch Lomond certainly isn't. IVC


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Add: choral sheet music
From: april skies
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 04:12 PM

Hi, Thanks for responding ! I haven't had the time to check and try out all the information you've given me. I'll try to do so one of these days. How does this Levy collection work ? Where can I find this sheetmusic ?

And about myself : I'm not living in the UK, nor in the USA ; I'm from Belgium. That's probably the reason why I don't know whether all of these songs are Irish or not. So I do not specifically need Irish songs : the titles I typed down are just songs I really like.

ps Sylvie = april skies


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Add: choral sheet music
From: GUEST,Three Chord
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 05:33 PM

I am just looking at an old songbook I picked up at a flea market for a quarter called, "357 Songs We Love to Sing" each is written in from two to four parts- there is a four part arrangement for "Loch Lomand", and a three part arrangement of "The Minstrel Boy" half a dozen each from Thomas Moore and Robert Burns--printed in 1938--

There are many collections like it floating around, as singing was once very popular(before families had two working parents and a TV in every room) and every school of every size had it's choir, choruses and glee clubs, as well as any number of informal singing groups--

You may find a stack of these in the back room at church or in a corner of the school's music library--and a large, old library in any downtown will, more likely than not, have a few dusty shelves of these items--The tastes of past times are not are own, so much of what you find will not satisfy contemporary definitions of traditional music, but there will be some gems that you can recover with the aid of a good photocopier or, if need, a fair music copiest-


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Add: choral sheet music
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 09:43 PM

Hi Sylvie,

As MMario said, it will be tough finding these particular ones in a choral arrangement. My suggestion is to find a piano arrangement and try to piece together the soprano, alto, bass.

You can find Loch Lomond here. [http://www.web-helper.net/PDMusic] Look in The Book of a Thousand Songs - search the L's. This is a common song that you may be able to find a choral arrangement for. Try searching on Google using the words for the song title and also the word "choral" or SATB.

You can find many of the others by using this site. [http://sheetmusiconline.net] This site searches 8 different sites offering sheet music. The problem is...you really can't see the music before you buy it, and it may cost up to $7 in shipping charges just for sheet music which costs $1. Another thing you can do (besides looking for "piano or choral" arrangement) is to find a particular book, then go to one of the large book sites and read more about it. Maybe even purchase it used. An exaple: Brennan on the Moor is in the Golden Encyclopedia of Folk Music which you can purchase used for $12 instead of $20.

I have The Wild Rover (not Irish Rover) in the Clancy Brothers Songbook, but it just has a melody line, words, chords, and an accompaniment in the bass. (you would have to construct an alto line)


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Add: choral sheet music
From: april skies
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 03:49 AM

Old Irish song books on flea markets ... Sounds great, but this is not "common" at all when you're living in Belgium. I might find some old Flemish music or so, but (Irish and Scottish) music that would take me years and years doing nothing else but going to flea markets. :) There's going to be a second hand book market in my hometown within two weeks .... You'll never know ...


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Subject: RE: looking for: choral sheet music
From: IanC
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 04:50 AM

Sylvie

Clicking on the BLUE CLICKY which I provided above will get you to Levy. Once there, follow the instructions!

:-)
Ian


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Subject: RE: looking for: choral sheet music
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 09:20 AM

I've spent a long time looking on the Web and by far the best collection is at Harmonious Companion, with 100 examples of 2 to 4 part MIDI files - no lyrics unfortunately. Please see below for the list.

http://www.channel1.com/users/gsilvis/hc.htm

The other resource is Silvis Woodshed with a fantastic collection of multi part choral MIDIs. He has everything from Faure to Madrigals, but admittedly the folk stuff is but a minor part of the collection. He does include however the DEFINITIVE choral version of Battle Hymn of the Republic. This arrangement was written a lot of decades ago, but once you've sung it this way you'll want to do it forever. The males get the best bits and its probably SATTBB.

http://www.channel1.com/users/gsilvis/

For anyone who is really into Madrigals there is a USA college site with some great MIDIs, but they're really sloppily labelled. I can't recall the site name for the moment but drop me a line if you're interested.

Best Regards,
John

HARMONIOUS COMPANION INDEX

A La Claire Fontaine
A Robyn, Gentil Robyn
Adieu, Sweet Amaryllis
Admiral Benbow
Among the Blue Flowers and the Yellow
AEnnchen von Tharau
Aupres de ma Blonde
Aura Lee
Babylon Is Fallen
The Barley and the Rye
Bold Fenian Men
Boomer Johnson
Brave Wolfe
Bushes and Briars
Calm He Rests
Can Ye Sew Cushions
Candlemas Eve
Comin' thro' the Rye
Creeping Jane
The Cruel Ship's Carpenter
The Deadly Wars
Dido, Bendigo
Died for Love
Don't You Be Foolish, Pray
The Dowie Dens o' Yarrow
Down Among the Dead Men
Drink, Puppy, Drink
Farewell to Tarwathie
Fathom the Bowl
Flow Gently, Sweet Afton
Gaudeamus Igitur
The Generous Lover
The Girl I Left Behind Me
Green Grow the Laurels
The Greenland Whale Fishery
Hal-an-Tow
Heidenroeslein
The Husbandman and the Servingman
Idumea
I Lost My Love
I'm a Young Bonnie Lassie
In the Pines
In the Shade of the Old Apple Tree
I Once Loved a Lass
I Was a Young Man
Jim Jones
John Peel
The Jug of Punch
Kissing's Nae Sin
Landlord Fill the Flowing Bowl
The Last Rose of Summer
Listen to the Mocking Bird
Lord Ullin's Daughter
Die Lorelei
Lovely on the Water
Lowlands
The Loyal Lover
The Maid on the Shore
Martinmas Time
May Morning Dew
Men of Harlech
The Midshipmite
The Minstrel Boy
My Love She's But a Lassie Yet
My Plaidie's Awa'
Now, Robin, Lend to Me Thy Bow
Oaken Leaves
Oh, Absalom, My Son
The Old Orange Flute
Old Snowball
The Owl
The Plains of Waterloo
Polly on the Shore
Pretty Nancy of Yarmouth
Quaesitum Meritis
Reiters Morgengesang
Rigs of the Time
The Rolling of the Stones
Rule, Britannia
Save Your Money While You're Young
Sherburne
So Selfish Runs the Hare
Soldier Laddie
Spanish Ladies
The Stately Southerner
Sweet Cider Time
The Sweet Kumadee
There Were Three Knights
Turkey Rhubarb
Under This Stone
Unhappy Parting
Warlike Seamen
What Can a Young Lassie
When Jesus Wept
When a Man's in Love
The Whitby Lad
Wondrous Love
You Gentlemen of High Renown
Young Edwin
Ythanside


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Subject: RE: looking for: choral sheet music
From: april skies
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 09:36 AM

Hi, talking about sheetmusic .... Anyone who knows where to find the music for Angelo Branduardi's songs ? Thanks, Sylvie


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Subject: RE: looking for: choral sheet music
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 09:41 AM

WOW! Thanks John.

I couldn't find Battle Hymn of the Republic at Silvis. Isn't this the one where the ALTOS get to sing "In the beauty of the lilies..." Who says the males get the best parts? ;-)

I'm making some of my own midis of the Ralph Vaughan Williams stuff, Christmas songs and Wither's Rocking Hymn. Thanks again.


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Subject: RE: looking for: choral sheet music
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 09:45 AM

April, I never heard of him, but if you type the words, Angelo Branduardi midi, into the search engine there seems to be several hits. (of course it helps to read Italian) ;-)


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Subject: RE: looking for: choral sheet music
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 09:46 AM

...the search engine Google


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Subject: RE: looking for: choral sheet music
From: april skies
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 03:24 PM

I've tried out LEVY but it doesn't seem to work when I want it to. At some point I have to click a little icon, but I can't find it. There's nothing to click on. Maybe it has got something to do with the fact that I haven't got a pc, but an imac. Anyone ?

ps : Angelo Branduardi is an Italian "bard". He is great !!!


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Subject: RE: looking for: choral sheet music
From: MMario
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 03:34 PM

a small amount of angelo's music is at

http://www.branduardi.com/framesenglish.htm


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Subject: RE: looking for: choral sheet music
From: april skies
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 05:07 AM

Anyone who can help me with the Levy site ?


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Subject: RE: looking for: choral sheet music
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 09:44 AM

I'm not sure what the problem is ...

But at the Levy site, I just click on the words "search the collection." There is no icon next to the words. Your mouse cursor turns into a "finger" when the mouse hovers over the words.

I searched for Loch Lomond and Brennan on the Moor and didn't find either of them.


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Subject: RE: looking for: choral sheet music
From: masato sakurai
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 10:03 AM

The Lester S. Levy Collection of Sheet Music:

Home Page (Index)

Browse the Collection

Search (This may be most helpful)

SUBJECT HEADINGS

How to Use the Lester S. Levy Collection of Sheet Music

~Masato


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