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Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire

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GUEST,Ed 20 Nov 02 - 06:38 PM
John Routledge 20 Nov 02 - 06:44 PM
GUEST,Raggytash 21 Nov 02 - 08:11 AM
GUEST,Parthenon 21 Nov 02 - 08:38 AM
GUEST,JohnB 21 Nov 02 - 12:52 PM
John Routledge 21 Nov 02 - 01:53 PM
John MacKenzie 21 Nov 02 - 04:52 PM
Herga Kitty 21 Nov 02 - 04:53 PM
Llanfair 21 Nov 02 - 05:19 PM
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nager 21 Nov 02 - 06:40 PM
Malcolm Douglas 21 Nov 02 - 07:56 PM
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Subject: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 20 Nov 02 - 06:38 PM

I've read things here (can't find the thread, sorry) and elsewhere, that suggest Mike invented quite a lot of the stuff in the book.

Can it be regarded as a useful reference for traditional song?

Ed


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Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: John Routledge
Date: 20 Nov 02 - 06:44 PM

Looking for Lancashire songs myself so watching with interest.


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Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 21 Nov 02 - 08:11 AM

I've got a book of Lancashire songs edited by Mrs Hardings kid at home, this evening I will look it up and come back to you if you have specific requirements.
John Routledge ............what is it you're after


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Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: GUEST,Parthenon
Date: 21 Nov 02 - 08:38 AM

I have the Mike Harding book somewhere at home, if I can help, let me know.


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Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 21 Nov 02 - 12:52 PM

I have the Mike Harding Book "Folk Songs of Lancashire at home. I used to know him years and years ago, when he was in the Eddison Bell Jug Band, way before fame and glory. Most of the songs from memory are Trad Lancashire material and I think he gives references to origin at the back. So I don't really know what he "invented"
I picked up another Lancashire song book by Harry Boardman (name escapes me) it also has a lot of good Trad Lancashire material in it.
Will post name when I remember.
JohnB


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Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: John Routledge
Date: 21 Nov 02 - 01:53 PM

Hi Raggytash
I need a couple of books of Lancashire songs with as much traditional material as possible.These are for a surprise Christmas present to someone who wants to sing Lancashire songs.
Lancastrians may rest asured that they are not for personal use although no doubt I will read them with great interest.:0)


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Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 21 Nov 02 - 04:52 PM

I have a wonderful LP called "Deep Lancashire" Great people like Harry Boardman, and the Oldham Tinkers. It's got a wonderfull monologue on called "Clogs" it would bring a tear to a glass eye.
Giok


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Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 21 Nov 02 - 04:53 PM

There are also tapes by Dave "Sid" Calderbank, but you need a phrasebook to decipher the dialect.

Kitty


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Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: Llanfair
Date: 21 Nov 02 - 05:19 PM

From what I remember of Mike's gigs, he used traditional songs, and added bits to them. Rawtenstall Annual Fair and When the Old Dun Cow Caught Fire being ones that spring to mind.
I've got a copy of his book, John, and I think I know where it is!!!

Cheers, Bron.


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Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 21 Nov 02 - 05:55 PM

Thanks Bron, that pretty much answers my question.

Whilst there is, of course, nothing wrong with Mike's approach, his texts shouldn't be considered as traditional. That's all I really wanted to know.

Thanks again

Ed


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Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: nager
Date: 21 Nov 02 - 06:40 PM

I have had the same album for several years now.. it is magnificent.


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Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 21 Nov 02 - 07:56 PM

The book is a mix of traditional and modern songs, and broadside texts set to music. Most have at least partial provenances; some give considerable detail. I suspect that Mike "Lankified" some of them a bit, but on the whole it's as good a resource as most of its kind.


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Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: Dave Wynn
Date: 21 Nov 02 - 08:18 PM

Oh Come on John (Routledge) you have some of the best songs in the UK in your personal collection. I have heard you deliver them many times.Your land of birth (North East England) has favoured you with some of the best songs ever written and here you are trying to steal what little we have in comparison.

Shame on you John. (When will we see you and hear you sing again at Swinton Folk Club?) You are always welcome (providing you bring your superb voice AND songs from your native North East. :-)

Dave W


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Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: Harry Basnett
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 07:29 AM

I think John said he wanted the books for somebody else....


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Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 10:20 AM

John,
I have numerous LP's from the 70's with Lancashires songs on them but would recommend in the first instance, if you want to buy books, The Music Room at Cleckheaton. I'll have a think this weekend and see what I can come up with ............but a do have an appointment with a paint brush and a dining room ...............


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Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: John Routledge
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 07:11 PM

Thanks All.
Looks like like M.H. Folksongs of Lancashire is one of the two presents.
Spot - Will be at White Lion Monday to hear some proper Lanky songs!!


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