Who gets the royalties?

Subject: Who gets the royalties?
From: GUEST,Iwannaknow
Date: 24 Feb 03 - 08:02 PM

take for instance, the german boxsets of american artists.

Do the ORIGINAL ARTISTS OR SONGWRITERS

get any funds from these sales?

I have heard they do not get paid a dime...

i expect a lot of BS from know-it-alls but am

hoping for some replies with the FACTS...

Subject: RE: Who gets the royalties?
From: MMario
Date: 24 Feb 03 - 09:27 PM

That all depends on what sort of arrangements they had with their publishers.

Subject: RE: Who gets the royalties?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 24 Feb 03 - 10:19 PM

the german boxsets of american artists

I have missed something????...please elocuciate yourself....I don't understand.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Don't take it personal...I'm a little slow on some things....but this sounds interesting.

Subject: RE: Who gets the royalties?
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 24 Feb 03 - 10:49 PM

Gargoyle-
The Bear Family, a German Publisher, has been buying rights to many   folk and country music recordings, and is re-mastering them and publishing them in magnificent, though expensive box sets. These include many of the Carter Family recordings, Jimmy Rodgers,Wilf Carter, as well as more modern artists like Grandpa Jones and Johnny Cash.

Subject: RE: Who gets the royalties?
From: GUEST, Dale
Date: 24 Feb 03 - 10:50 PM

I expect he means Bear Family recordings.

Subject: RE: Who gets the royalties?
From: GUEST, Dale
Date: 24 Feb 03 - 10:54 PM

Yeah, what Dick said. I was just a minute later and a whole lot shorter with my answer.

My favorite boxes ~~ Darby & Tarlton, and the Hank Snow stuff, closely followed by many others.

Subject: RE: Who gets the royalties?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 24 Feb 03 - 11:10 PM

Is there a Link???

Lead me to them???? Cheap is my middle name.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

With a solid identification...the Kazaa process can give me the set.

Subject: RE: Who gets the royalties?
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Feb 03 - 11:37 PM

the question may refer to the posters who carp about
copying material for others...

and concerns the German producer paying/not paying royalties
to the songwriters and artists who originally recorded the material...!!! [or just to the record companies?)

Does the German company pocket all of the profits? if, so,
how does any artist or songwriter of said material suffer a
loss if bootlg copies are made?

Subject: RE: Who gets the royalties?
From: Ebbie
Date: 24 Feb 03 - 11:59 PM

I have wondered about that myself. I have several friends who buy the Bear Family boxsets- $200 and more a pop- but do the artists get a cut? Or is there an upfront deal made between the Bears and the artists?

Subject: RE: Who gets the royalties?
From: NicoleC
Date: 25 Feb 03 - 12:42 PM

Again, it depends on the deal the artists had with their publishers. Sadly, many older artists did not own their material; they got paid for performing it in the studio. In that case, they and their heirs get squat and can't say whether or not an item is used for a particular purpose -- the owners of the material make the money and decisions, which might be a record company or a publisher or a private party who bought the rights at some point.

Germany signed the Berne convention, i.e.:
Article 13 (Sound Recordings)
(1) Each country of the Union may impose for itself reservations and conditions on the exclusive right granted to the author of a musical work and to the author of any words, the recording of which together with the musical work has already been authorized by the latter, to authorize the sound recording of that musical work, together with such words, if any; but all such reservations and conditions shall apply only in the countries which have imposed them and shall not, in any circumstances, be prejudicial to the rights of these authors to obtain equitable remuneration which, in the absence of agreement, shall be fixed by competent authority.

(2) Recordings of musical works made in a country of the Union in accordance with Article 13 (3) of the Convention signed at Rome on June 2, 1928, and at Brussels on June 26, 1948, may be reproduced in that country without the permission of the author of the musical work until a date two years after that country becomes bound by this Act.


So unless an item is public domain, they are paying *somebody* for the rights per US Copyright Law. It may or may not be the artist, depending on the particular situation.