BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?

Subject: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: Bobert
Date: 19 May 03 - 06:53 PM

So Ari has resigned.... Yeah right! No one resigns from such a cushy job. All ya' gotta do is just avoid answering questions, get yer face on TV everynight, have girls chasin' you and pick up a big pay check. So Ari got the axe. Pure and simple.

Word on the street is that the two folks who really run the world, Dick Cheney and Donnie Rumsfeld, think he's all used up. The lies were just getting to obvious so they walked to the mound and yanked him.

Word on the street is they're trying to figure out how to get rid of the other rather used up liar, Bush Junior hisseff.

Nuthin' worse than a worn out liar. Gotta keep 'em fresh...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 19 May 03 - 07:19 PM

Or maybe it's just another rat leaving a sinking ship!

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: GUEST
Date: 19 May 03 - 07:24 PM

Could be Jeb is about to move up in the rotation. Maybe, just before election, GW will do a Wellstone and Cheney will wrap Jeb in the flag...unanimous consent of the party and all that. Sympathy vote gets another unelectable Bush into office. Only problem is Hillary would then have to wait EIGHT years for her appointment, and hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, they say. That'd give her time to work on her mustache, though. Give her that Stalin look that'll become the vogue during her administration.

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: Bobert
Date: 19 May 03 - 08:54 PM

Danged, GUEST, I gave that Jeb scenerio a spin around the block my own self... And then I thought, nah, it will never work. But then again it might. Okay, lets assume that the Bush's (pick one) ain't gonna do nuthin' but steal the working man's money. Heck, thay got that down pat. Well, so Junior gets Wellstoned, then in four years, with the economy still in the crapper, they Wellstone Jeb and bring back the Ol' Man... Meanwhile, Cheney, who has now had a heart transplant is still VP and Donnie Rumsfeld who has consolidated all the variuos departments into one, the War Department, have the working man by the perverbial shorts....

And the beat goes on.... and on... and on....

Ahhhh, until Tom Jefferson has had enuff and climbs from the grave....

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 May 03 - 12:16 AM

The thought of Hilary in office is amusing to me, only because it would absolutely give the Republicans fits! (which is about what they deserve at this point, karmically speaking)

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: Beccy
Date: 20 May 03 - 07:47 AM

...Or, maybe, just maybe, he decided he'd had enough of the pressure. Do you really think you could get out of a job like that without a few ulcers? Remember how put-upon Clinton's press secretary always looked (with good reason)? I can't believe for a moment that the press-secretary position is one without agita. The man probably has an ulcer the size of his head.

LH- if you think the thought of HIlary in office is amusing I suggest you purchase my home in New York so that I may move and you may be amused.

Beccy

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: Bill D
Date: 20 May 03 - 12:40 PM

did anyone see his comment about "doing something more relaxing...like defusing nuclear weapons"?

I suspect he meant exactly what he said....and 'maybe' knows that job is gonna be even more hectic in the next 2 years.

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: Kim C
Date: 20 May 03 - 01:24 PM

Mr. Fleischer is a newlywed. Maybe he'd like to spend more time at home with his wife.

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: Amos
Date: 20 May 03 - 01:31 PM

That's what he said he wanted to do -- I could understand that.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: Kim C
Date: 20 May 03 - 01:34 PM

Yep, Amos, I read that too.

Sometimes a duck is just that - a duck.

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: DougR
Date: 20 May 03 - 02:02 PM

I never question the motivation of anyone leaving government employment. Two years was more than enough for me. Fleisher has done an excellent job, I think, and I wish him well.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: GUEST
Date: 20 May 03 - 02:07 PM

Fleischer just doesn't want to be part of the next wave of 'terrorist' attacks. Nuclear, from his cryptic statement. Half a dozen stories today at www.infowars.com about 'chatter in the system', 'US is targeted', 'Saudi Arabia targetted', etc. The CIA is getting ready to nuke something, and Fleisher doesn't want to be part of it. He paid his dues by helping with Sept 11, but his scruples seem to kick in when the death toll is somewhere above 3,000. Murderer. Traitor.

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: katlaughing
Date: 20 May 03 - 03:50 PM

Meanwhile Bush says he is ready to send troops to the Philippines.

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: GUEST,Casual Observer
Date: 20 May 03 - 04:47 PM

This is the only current story I could find about Bush and the Philippines.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/05/19/bush.philippines/index.html

Unless I'm missing something, it doesn't say anything about sending troops there.

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 May 03 - 05:04 PM

The Phillipines? Well, that would be a handy place for a splendid little war to win the next election for the G.O.P. So would Indonesia. Then there are still Syria, Iran and North Korea. Decisions, decisions...

Beccy - I have lived in New York State. For ten years. I do not plan to repeat the experience any time soon, although there are lots of nice people there, most certainly. I have never lived in New York City, and I can imagine nothing that would persuade me to. I plan to be amused from a relatively safe distance...assuming anywhere is safe at this point...

D.G. - You might just be right about that (the nuclear strike). But I hope to God you are not.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: katlaughing
Date: 20 May 03 - 06:20 PM

From one of many references on google news. The last quote about poor people not being terrorist is classic shrub.Gawd what a stupid man!:

Tuesday, May 20, 2003 (Washington DC):

US President George W Bush has pledged US troop deployment and military supplies to the Philippines in the war against terrorist outfits like Abu Sayyaf and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front, active in the region.

Describing Manila as a strong ally in the global war on terrorism, Bush said US troops would support Philippines-led anti-terror operation in the near term, on the lines of last year's highly successful deployment of American soldiers in the southern Philippines.

He was speaking to reporters at a joint press conference with Philippines President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo yesterday.

Bush said that if the Moro Islamic Liberation Front abandons the path of violence and addresses its grievances through peaceful negotiations, the United States will provide diplomatic and financial support to a renewed peace process.

Reiterating his commitment to deal with poverty, Bush stressed that poor people are not necessarily killers. A lot of the top Al-Qaida people were comfortable middle class citizens, he pointed out.

"You have got to make sure we distinguish between hate and poverty," he said, adding that trade was an important aspect of helping to create conditions necessary for people to rise out of poverty.

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: GUEST
Date: 20 May 03 - 07:18 PM

Dirty Bomb Material?

Well, if I had to make a guess, I'd say a 'dirty bomb' in Saudi Arabia over the US Memorial Day weekend (next weekend). CIA director Tenet is there right now, so that's a pretty big deal when the head honcho has to go to the scene of the crime beforehand (If you want a job done right, do it yourself).

With Americans all distracted by a military holiday, and a really nasty attack taking place far enough away to be aware of but not really threatened by, congress will try to pass Patriot Act 2.

The 'Terror Alert' was just raised to orange...'more chatter in the pipeline since just before Sept 11'. And look at the link above...the Bush Crime Family is doing everything it can to make sure this event is 'foreshadowed'. This is all planned, folks, and not by Ossama bin Hussein.

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: katlaughing
Date: 20 May 03 - 07:45 PM

Despite the fact that Ridge says we are safer than ever before in the past 20 months, what our gov. terms "chatter" does have them scrambling to change the alert to ORANGE and warn us all of imminent attacks. These clowns want it both ways; Homeland Security is working/The Sky is falling!

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: GUEST
Date: 21 May 03 - 12:32 AM

It was either last year or the year before that the first 'Arabs' showed up at a Bilderberg conference. Viewed from a mile away through telephoto lenses, men in traditional Saudi-type robes and headwear were photographed. Must have been the Saudi royal family...finally bought their way into the big game.

And to be a head of state but also a global tyrannist, you have to relinquish your obligations to your state. So I expect the Saudis will be terrorized by their king, which will result in tighter laws to protect the Bilderberg's new oil fields. And the royal family will get to pass strict new laws against the 'terrorists', who will most likely be any political opponents, and that'll be another country solidly in the bag for global organized crime.

I heard the US embassy in Riyadh was shutting down. Extra guards aren't enough? Could it be something is going to be in the air that carbines won't protect against? Glad I don't watch TV anymore. They're going to wrap you people in Old Glory and beat you over the head with the flagpole pole until you're drooling the name George Bush. Fleischer's replacement (has that been announced yet?) will lead the cheering. You'll be reminded that 'the 9-11 hijackers were mostly from Saudi Arabia' so you'll get that little rush of payback satisfaction...man, this is all so scripted. Hope I'm wrong, but the stage is being set down to the last stick of furniture. Or so it seems.

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: katlaughing
Date: 21 May 03 - 10:51 AM

EPA HEAD, CHRISTY WHITMAN IS NEXT - she just handed in her resignation!

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 May 03 - 01:19 PM

Re: Christy Whitman. It's seems pointless to be the environmental wallah when the Bush Administration has decided we don't need an environment.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: Tweed
Date: 21 May 03 - 01:42 PM

She was just interviewed on the Diane Rehm show (WAMU, NPR Washington) yesterday. I didn't hear any hint of this coming up.
She was defending SUV's and everything! Wonder what happened/is happening?
There's audio of yesterday's show here. Kinda weird ain't it?

WAMU, Diane Rehm page

Tweed

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: katlaughing
Date: 21 May 03 - 01:55 PM

Tweed, you mean no mention of this in yesterday's show? Wow, that is playing the cards close. According to the NYTxs, it caught the White House unawares, too. The picture they printed of her is not very flattering. I thought she sounded a little defensive/petulant in this:

In a letter to President Bush, Ms. Whitman said she longed to return to her family and her native New Jersey, "which I love just as you do your home state of Texas." (Think he's been rubbing it in too much to staff?!**bg**)

At least she is pro-choice, though I am sure that pissed a lot of his supporters off.

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 May 03 - 03:10 PM

I just listened to the program (streaming audio) just now. Nary a mention of her resignation, although at the end of the interview, when asked, she alluded to wanting to spend more time with her husband, and that "anything is possible."

She is (was) a very good spokesperson for the Bush Administration, but I have a really hard time reconciling her catalog of environmental progress with what's actually going on. Much of the measures she mentioned are "voluntary." Which is to say, you can't pollute the environment—unless you decide to. And she said nothing about logging old growth forests, drilling for oil in wildlife reserves, or safeguarding endangered species.

If we're actually doing everything that she claims, why not become a signatory to the Kyoto Accords?

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: katlaughing
Date: 21 May 03 - 03:41 PM

Exactly, Don!

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: DougR
Date: 21 May 03 - 03:58 PM

Nope, kat, the sky is not falling. I do believe, however, it might take that for some of you to realize that the president's efforts to eradicate terrorism is a good thing. Of course were he able to do so, those same people would probably criticize the way he did it. Sigh!

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: GUEST,bub
Date: 21 May 03 - 04:02 PM

Kyoto Accords ,,, why havent the french signed it? or for that fact most of europe,, thats because it is based upon bad science, and it would devistate economys around the world,,, unless you are a third world country that is,,,,

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 May 03 - 04:03 PM

The problem, Doug, is that he's going about it all bass-ackwards.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: GUEST,bub
Date: 21 May 03 - 04:07 PM

I guess all of you who think clintons last second (signed into law on the last day of his term by executive order) reducing the arsnic standards,, made him a great environmental president>>>.hahaha
at least bush is open about his ideas of drilling in anwar,,

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: GUEST,Claudia Jane Craig
Date: 21 May 03 - 04:27 PM

So Ari has resigned.... Yeah right! No one resigns from such a cushy job. All ya' gotta do is just avoid answering questions,
get yer face on TV everynight, have girls chasin' you and pick up a big pay check. So Ari got the axe. Pure and simple.

That shows you know next to nothing. Being White House press secretary means working 15-18 hours a day, 7 days a week for about $100,000 per year.

As a public speaker, Ari can now command $5-10,000 per 30 minute speech and will be able to work as often, or as seldom, as he likes. Say he works only five days a month, he'll be bring in 3 to 6 times the money for a fraction of the work. As a newlywed, that's what we call a no-brainer.

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: katlaughing
Date: 21 May 03 - 04:30 PM

Doug, I am sure you are being facetious, again, but for the record, just in case you didn't "get it," my point was it is YOUR Resident and his cronies who are speaking out of both sides of their mouths - on one hand they tell us we are safer...on the other we should be in fear even more because the sky IS going to fall. It is so goddamn idiotic, if I didn't laugh I would cry a river...they up us to ORANGE ALERT all the while saying we are safer...their mantras are empty, yet deadly to our collective consciousness...what a paradox.

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: Tweed
Date: 21 May 03 - 04:34 PM

DougR, I habv bot sodas at 7-11's from wiser folks than yore George W. Bush. Yore plainly delooded and profundly addled in yore blind worship obv President Curly Joe.

Yerz,
Tweed

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 May 03 - 06:37 PM

        Bass-ackwards!
        One of the big things, among many, that engendered hatred for the United States and spawned terrorist attacks upon the US itself, was failing to follow through on all the promises to the Afghani people and the Mujah Hadeen back a decade or so ago when, much to our delight, they fought the Russians and drove them out. It rarely, if ever, makes the news, but after all Bush's promises, we've abandoned Afghanistan—again. The promised reconstruction didn't happen and the warring tribes are back at it.
        Then we promise to establish democracy in Iraq, and, faced with the inevitability of a Shiite dominated religious regime if we allow them to have free elections, we're sort of forced to keep a lid on it (classic "tiger by the tail"). Although most Iraqis are grateful the Saddam Hussein is gone, they want to be left to run their own country. But do we dare? This is breeding more hatred. More potential terrorists.
        We threaten Syria. We threaten Iran. They can hardly hope to defend themselves in open battle. So what defense are they left with? Terrorism.
        We condone, or at least turn a blind eye to everything that Sharon does, no matter how viscous. This more than amply demonstrates just how devoted the American government is to human rights.
        Then, by attacking Iraq and not North Korea, we send a message to every small, nervous country in the world, that if you don't want to be attacked by the US, get yourself a Bomb. Then when North Korea says that they'll back off on the nuclear arsenal if the US will sign a non-aggression pact with them, Bush refuses.
        The Senate Armed Services Committee wants to increase the number of "low-yield," (5 kilotons or less) tactical nuclear weapons to 7,000, with the idea of adding them to our arsenal of "conventional (!!!) weapons" to be used in our future wars. Future wars! And it doesn't take a genius to know that if we use nuclear weapons, others will too. And such a war will quickly escalate from the 5 kiloton tactical weapons to the 20 megaton "city busters." Several nations have stockpiles of these. Hiroshima was destroyed with a 15 kiloton bomb. Contemplate 20 megatons. Not just one, but dozens. Hundreds. Thousands of them. I don't think the human mind can actually envision this kind of destruction.
        The Star Trek series paints a future where racism, poverty, crime, and war no longer exist on earth, and humankind can devote it's time and energies to education, artistic achievement, self-improvement, and exploration, both outward and inward. But from time to time, some episodes have alluded to a "Third World War," implying vaguely that it was nuclear, or biological, or perhaps a combination. Obvious, in the Star Trek universe, earth survives and goes on to become something closer to what we wish it might become.
        But, in reality, I'm not so sure that humanity would survive a nuclear and/or biological war. I think that rather than surviving such a cataclysmic conflict to eventually becoming the near-Utopian world envisioned in Star Trek, if we survived at all, we would find ourselves in a world of anarchy, desolation, and savagery, something like that depicted in the Mad Max movie trilogy.
        There is so much that could be done to forestall terrorism. There is so much that can be done to avert future wars, be they "conventional" or nuclear/biological. We are the richest, most powerful country in the world. We can afford to be benevolent. We can afford to be creative. All it takes is a little genuine compassion.
        But what do we have? Warlords, wearing their suits and ties and little American flag lapel-pins. War! You can almost here them drooling in anticipation.
        Does anybody feel safer?

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: GUEST,Liberal & Proud of It
Date: 21 May 03 - 07:58 PM

Who worries about Ari? He'll write a book
and collect a million.

MUCH more significantly, Pres.Bush has now
given Christie Todd Whitman, head of the E.P.A.,
more "time to be with her family."

Now Pres.Bush can go ahead with his plan
to put more arsenic in the water, thus
eliminating the need for health care.

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: DougR
Date: 22 May 03 - 01:49 AM

Tweed; kat; Nope you are both wrong. I don't worship anything, including the president to the United Sates, except my own God. And I was being very serious, kat.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 May 03 - 01:53 PM

Don Firth, I believe Reagan said that a nuclear war is "winnable." What RR and BushtheElder say, I'm afraid, goes double for bushie.

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: katlaughing
Date: 22 May 03 - 05:50 PM

And now, General Tommy Franks, who led the war in Iraq, is retiring...rats leaving a sinking ship, dare we hope?

Whatever, Doug. I find it pointless to try to dialogue with you, anymore, on political subjects. We will never agree, so best to let it go, imo.

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: DougR
Date: 23 May 03 - 01:14 AM

kat: at last, I think you go it right.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: Ebbie
Date: 23 May 03 - 08:59 PM

Speaking of General Franks- if he retires, what about Belgium's pending lawsuit against him? Can he still be tried as a war criminal?

Here is the basis for the suit: "Jan Fermon represents the 17 Iraqis and two Jordanians who filed the suit alleging that soldiers under Franks' command in Iraq fired on ambulances, did not show due care in avoiding civilian casualties and failed to safeguard Iraq's cultural heritage."

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: DougR
Date: 24 May 03 - 12:24 PM

Dream on Bobert, the latest CNN poll shows that GWB is more popular than ever! He's not about to get the axe!

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: Ebbie
Date: 24 May 03 - 08:18 PM

DougR, in a manipulated society such as ours I no longer believe as wholeheartedly as I once did that the majority are always right. In an age of 12-second sound bites and the politicizing of our news media, I no longer trust either side to get it right. Unfortunately, we tend to get what we deserve.

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: DougR
Date: 25 May 03 - 12:42 AM

Oh come on, Ebbie! There you go again. The glass is half empty right? Try to look at life as though it's half full. It really makes a difference! :>)

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: Don Firth
Date: 25 May 03 - 03:15 PM

"How did you lose your job as a newscaster?"

"I reported the news."

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 May 03 - 04:11 PM

DougR, with which part do you disagree?

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: DougR
Date: 26 May 03 - 01:32 AM

Ebbie: The first sentence of your last post: you may be right that the majority is not always right. I think it is a pretty reasonable indicator though. I realize that a lot of manipulation of facts can sway the case either way, and that can affect the polling, but by and large (despite what Bobert believes) I think the polls are pretty accurate (provided they are not directed polls of course). By directed, I mean, provided the sponsor of the polls (meaning the one that puts up the money) does not dictate what result they wish to achieve. But then, any polling company that does that is not to be believed anyway, right?

Dougr

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 May 03 - 10:31 AM

DougR, the polls are a different animal from what I was describing.

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: DougR
Date: 26 May 03 - 11:41 AM

Yep, Ebbie, you're right. However, the empty glass philosophy appears to be on target.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: Bobert
Date: 26 May 03 - 08:51 PM

Well, I have been giving a lot of thought to this majority issue today. Let me back up a tad.

Tweed and I were in Memphis this weekend (spent more time in Mississippi) and in driving home today up I-81, I was alarmed at the number of folks with high dollar rigs pulled trilers with big trucks our cars with big motor homes and I knoticed that over half of them had NASCAR decals prominently displayed. Now there was alot of hihg dollar equipment being driven by some pretty well off folks who can afford such luxaries.

Well, I kept lookin' for one decal that had anything that one might consider socially positive, such as "Have you Hugged Your Kid Today?", but none. One #3, #8 or #88 after another. Hmmmmm?

So I was thinking that our side has lost. This nation has been sufficiently "dumbed down" to the point where concepts of compassion, understanding, compromise are foriegn commodities. War and NASCAR are pretty much easy to follow. Especially from the cameras view.

I am very much afraid that with out any media exposure with the big 4 gettring ready to take over broadcasting in America that we will not be able to turn the corner on this one.

Doug is right. The majority does support anit-human and crappy policies. Even those who stand to loose the most support stupid policy because it is sold to them cleverly. Well, you don't want the "government" messin' with you do you, so tell your congressman that______________________. (Pick any issue.)

Well, majorities or not, Doug. Your guy is a crook! He's stealing my money and I don't like it. And he's a pathological liar because he actually believes the stuff he says. And Cheney? Crook and liar? Rumsey? Crook and liar.....

But I won't argue that the majority of Americans aren't to dumbed down to see it...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: John Hardly
Date: 27 May 03 - 08:25 AM

"...in a manipulated society such as ours I no longer believe as wholeheartedly as I once did that the majority are always right. In an age of 12-second sound bites and the politicizing of our news media, I no longer trust either side to get it right. Unfortunately, we tend to get what we deserve.

How many times I thought this very thing during the previous administration. It has really helped me to get a perspective on how much worry is worth it. I see the left as hysterical now as the right was then...
....meanwhile, the real world goes on with nar'y a hitch.

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: Bobert
Date: 27 May 03 - 08:37 AM

Can't argue there either, John. I believe this dumbing down process began under the very much Repubocrat Clinton and is just being taken to a higher level under the current Repubocrat. Clinton didn't care if the netire media was owned by four mega corporations either. So much for an informed people....

Of course unless all one needs to have a knowledge base for social and foriegn issues is the latest point standings for Rusty Wallace...

Beam me up...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: Ebbie
Date: 27 May 03 - 11:29 AM

"...in a manipulated society such as ours I no longer believe as wholeheartedly as I once did that the majority are always right. In an age of 12-second sound bites and the politicizing of our news media, I no longer trust either side to get it right. Unfortunately, we tend to get what we deserve.

How many times I thought this very thing during the previous administration. John Hardly

We seem to be on the same page.

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: John Hardly
Date: 27 May 03 - 11:56 AM

yup.

Subject: RE: BS: Ari Fliesher Gets Axe, Is Bush Next?
From: Alba
Date: 27 May 03 - 12:20 PM

The hysteria (correct word for over reaction) from the Right during the previous Administration as an election strategy, helped to get this Present Team into the White House.
Maybe the Left should get hysterical and get them out!
The hysteria displayed by the Right during the previous administration didn't go away when they got into the White House it stayed and was fed and nourished and grew and there lies the problem!