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Tune ID Req: Oklahoma Mixer

masato sakurai 23 Aug 03 - 10:06 PM
Sorcha 24 Aug 03 - 09:35 AM
Jeri 24 Aug 03 - 10:08 AM
masato sakurai 25 Aug 03 - 06:39 AM
GUEST 25 Aug 03 - 01:46 PM
masato sakurai 26 Aug 03 - 01:31 PM
JohnInKansas 26 Aug 03 - 08:48 PM
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Subject: Tune ID Req: Oklahoma Mixer
From: masato sakurai
Date: 23 Aug 03 - 10:06 PM

Does anyone know the name of the tune inserted in the middle? "Oklahoma Mixer" probably is the best known American folk dance in Japan. Most people (I mean Japanese) under 60 know this dance. The tunes adopted are almost always a slowed down version of "Turkey in the Straw" along with this unknown melody in the middle.
Oklahoma Mixer (midi) (From this page)

Another version (midi) (From this page; please overlook the wrong spelling)

A third (midi) (From here)
~Masato


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Subject: RE: Tune ID Req: Oklahoma Mixer
From: Sorcha
Date: 24 Aug 03 - 09:35 AM

Sorry, Masato, I don't recognize it, but it sounds almost like they have taken Turkey and switched all the sharps for naturals. We do this with Soldier's Joy after 3-4 repeats and call it Soldier's Sorrow. Not sure though.


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Subject: RE: Tune ID Req: Oklahoma Mixer
From: Jeri
Date: 24 Aug 03 - 10:08 AM

It sounds a little like Nic's Russian Tune (MIDI/JC's Tunefinder). It definitely sound Russian to me.


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Subject: RE: Tune ID Req: Oklahoma Mixer
From: masato sakurai
Date: 25 Aug 03 - 06:39 AM

Thank you, Sorcha and Jeri, for trying. Sounds Russian? Might be. There's an MP3 at a Korean site. The interpolated tune, which is also anonymous to me, is different but somewhat similar.

~Masato


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Subject: RE: Tune ID Req: Oklahoma Mixer
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Aug 03 - 01:46 PM

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=oklahoma+mixer&btnG=Google+Search


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Subject: RE: Tune ID Req: Oklahoma Mixer
From: masato sakurai
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 01:31 PM

I think I've checked almost every site Google hits. Some of the tunes mentioned at THIS PAGE are not the one.


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Subject: RE: Tune ID Req: Oklahoma Mixer
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 08:48 PM

My first though on listening to the the middle part was that it sounds "classical," or at least "Broadway."

The first and third "Turkey in the Straw" parts are harmonized about as one would expect for tunes picked up from folk or "pop" performers, but the middle part sounds more like someone had a "professional score" to pull the harmonies (and modality) from. The obvious jump is that perhaps it's from a movie or broadway musical soundtrack. I did re-run my movie tape of Rogers & Hammerstein's Oklahoma movie version on the off chance it might be a "minor character theme" but it is obviously not derived from anything there.
Even "Turkey in the Straw" doesn't happen in that one.

The tune sounds "very familiar" but I can't figure out an Oklahoma association. It just isn't in a style that I can pin to anything that the local Okies brag about, or to any of the typical "folk" or "cowboy" traditions of the area.

I do seem to "hear" a similarity to some tunes/songs that I associate with a particular campground picker, so I've cut the middle part out and made a separate midi to play for him. Perhaps he'll be able to recognize it, or at least name a "style," genre, or era that it suggests. It will be at least a month, though, before I'll have a chance to try it out on him and get back.

It is an "intriguing" tune.

John


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Subject: RE: Tune ID Req: Oklahoma Mixer
From: masato sakurai
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 09:19 PM

Thanks, John. Probably it's not an Oklahoma dance at all. The FOLK DANCE FEDERATION OF CALIFORNIA page linked to above says:
This dance was taught by Rev. Larry Eisenberg at the Pacific Recreation Laboratory School, Asilomar. California, September 1947. This progressive type dance is popular in the Southwest, particularly Texas. The title "Oklahoma Mixer" is used here because the present version was learned in Norman, Oklahoma.

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Record: Folkraft 1035 "Rustic Schottische"; Columbia 37332 "Starlight Schottische"; Coral 60792 "Shepherd"s Schottische"; Coral 965517"Rustic Schottische"; MacGregor 400, MacGregor 5003 and National 4535 "Schottische", Folkart LP-105 "Fiddler's Schottische".


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Subject: RE: Tune ID Req: Oklahoma Mixer
From: masato sakurai
Date: 30 Aug 03 - 06:30 AM

I'll post the tune just in case the midi sites disappear.

X:1
T:Unknown (Oklahoma Mixer No. 2)
M:4/4
L:1/8
K:G
E2 E3/2F/ G3/2F/ E3/2G/|F2 F3/2^D/ B,4|B,3/2B,/ ^DF AA GF|B6z2|
e2 B3/2e/ dc B2|c2 FG A2 c2|B3/2c/ B3/2A/ G2E2|F6z2|
E3/2^D/ E3/2F/ G3/2A/ G3/2F/|E4 z3/2B/ e3/2d/|c3/2B/ c3/2d/ e3/2e/ d3/2c/|
B4z3/2B/ e3/2g/|f4z3/2B/ ^d3/2f/|e4z3/2 B/ G3/2E/|GG2G A2^A2|B6z2|
G3/2G/ G3/E/ F2 G3/2F/|E4 z3/2B/ e3/2d/|c3/2B/ c3/2d/ e3/2e/ d3/2c/|
B4z3/2 B/e3/2g/|f4 z3/2B/^d3/2f/|e4z3/2B/G3/2E/|GG2E F2GF|E6z2||


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