Origins: Do we hardly know ye, marching, Johnny??

Subject: Origins: Do we hardly know ye marching, Johnny??
From: Pogo
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 07:25 PM

Something I've wondered about for a while (and since I feel I'd better post something music related for a change {OD)...

When Johnny Comes Marching Home and Johnny I Hardly Knew Ye...which orginated the other? Both have basically the same tunes...my money would be on Johnny I Hardly Knew Ye but you folk music history buffs might know better.

and just as a side note, what was the inspirations for both songs?

Subject: RE: Origins: Do we hardly know ye, marching, Johnny??
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 08:57 PM

Lots of information here. Just put johnny in the Lyrics and Knowledge search and you can find both songs and discussion.
See threads 17128 and 17129.
17128: Marching Home
17129: Hardly Knew You

Subject: Origins: Do we hardly know ye, marching, Johnny??
From:
Date: 27 Feb 06 - 03:22 PM

Does anyone have the words to this song supposedly originating during the Revolutionary War? Is there a website with songs from the American Revolution?

Subject: RE: Origins: Do we hardly know ye, marching, Johnny??
From: GUEST,Q as guest
Date: 27 Feb 06 - 10:17 PM

If you read the threads you will find that no versions are known before the 1860's.

Put american revolution in the lyrics and knowledge search; some information is found.

Subject: RE: Origins: Do we hardly know ye, marching, Johnny??
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 10:26 AM

In O'Neill's Music of Ireland, it's called "Johnny Fill Up the Bowl."

Subject: RE: Origins: Do we hardly know ye, marching, Johnny??
From: GUEST,Q as guest
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 07:48 PM

"For Bowls" or "Johnny Fill Up the Bowl" (and other variant titles) is not known pre-1860.
See comments by Lighter and others in thread 68846 and the variants posted there: Johnny

McNeill's book is 20th c.