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Lyr Add: 'Silver Thread Among the Gold' Parody
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AT THE BOARDING HOUSE
SILVER THREADS AMONG THE GOLD
Related threads:
Lyr Req: Mrs. Crandall's Boarding House (23)
Lyr Req: In the boarding house... (18)
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Lyr Add: 'Silver Thread Among the Gold' Parody DigiTrad: AT THE BOARDING HOUSE SILVER THREADS AMONG THE GOLD Related threads: Lyr Req: Mrs. Crandall's Boarding House (23) Lyr Req: In the boarding house... (18) |
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Subject: Lyr Add: 'Silver Thread Among the Gold' Parody From: John M. Date: 23 Jan 05 - 08:21 PM Hello everyone, If you are easily offended, please STOP READING. This thread is for mature audiences only. Please don't post "dreadful song" or "worst song written" as you are not helping. Below is a traditional bawdy parody titled: "Silver Thread Among the Gold" or "Garter Fixer" (see texts below) Do you sing this song? If so when/where did you learn it? Would you agree that this parody is derived from the song Oh, No John (see references in this thread).
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'Silver Thread Among the Gold' Parody From: John M. Date: 23 Jan 05 - 09:09 PM Ooops. I forgot to add The Penultimate Rugby Songbook text may have been derived from the Harry Morgan compiled LP (1963) & book (1967) both titled Why Was He Born So Beautiful and Other Rugby Songs because both LP & book contain texts nearly identical to the above. Here is the recording from 1963.
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'Silver Thread Among the Gold' Parody From: John MacKenzie Date: 24 Jan 05 - 04:57 AM In the boarding house I lived in everything was growing old Silverfish and rancid butter, and the cheese was green with mould When the dog died we had sausages, when the cat died catnip tea When the landlord died I left there, spare ribs were too much for me. One day while running for the tube train, I tripped and tumbled down the stair I fell down right to the bottom, lay all bruised and bleeding there An old lady came up to me, she said 'did you miss a step my son?' I sat up and said 'no lady; I hit every bloody one! Giok |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'Silver Thread Among the Gold' Parody From: GUEST Date: 24 Jan 05 - 08:04 AM Walking through the park last Thursday I saw a sight that turned my head. I sawa most peculiar fellow fishing in a flower bed. Thinking him to be quite barmy, to humour him, I said a word,. I asked "How many have you caught, sir?" He smiled and answered "You're the third!" The swallow is a very pretty bird, it flies to us from sunny Spain. And when the summer is all over, it flies back home to Spain again. Now, one particular swallow, chanced to meet a great big hawk. The hawk tore all the swallows feathers off, and said "Right you bugger, you can walk!" |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'Silver Thread Among the Gold' Parody From: GUEST Date: 24 Jan 05 - 08:05 AM That was me Splott Man |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'Silver Thread Among the Gold' Parody From: Snuffy Date: 24 Jan 05 - 10:54 AM John, I do remember (and occasionally sing) a slight variant of the second half of the song, but have never heard the first part before( up to ...blame on me). All the hairs on mine are silver And the hairs on yours are gold Let us put the two together Silver hairs amongst the gold. Probably got it from "Why Was He Born....". What on earth gives you the idea that this parody is derived from the song Oh, No John? Look here in the DT or else here to find out what it's a parody of |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'Silver Thread Among the Gold' Parody From: dick greenhaus Date: 24 Jan 05 - 11:30 AM "Silver THreads Among the Gold" is one of the most widely-parodied songs around. The version John Mehlberg quotes was around (in Brooklyn) at least as far back as the early 1940s. Some of these are: At the Boarding House At the boarding house where I lived, Things were getting green with mold The landlord's hair was in the butter, Silver threads among the gold. When the dog died, we had hotdogs When the cat died, catnip tea, When the landlord died, I left there, Spare ribs were too much for me. ----------------------------------------------------------------- As sung by Judy Cook, who learned it from her father. tune: Silver Threads Among The Gold Also: While the organ pealed potatoes, lard was rendered by the choir And the sexton wrang the dishrag, someone set the church on fire. "Holy smoke!" the preacher shouted, as he wildly tore his hair; Now his head resembles Heaven, 'cause there is no parting there. Girls can never change their nature, 'Tis a thing beyond their reach; If a girl is born a lemon, She can never be a peach. But the law of compensation Does this lesson to us teach: You can always squeeze a lemon; Ever tried to squeeze a peach? The train was standing at the station, When a young man full of care Running madly to get on it, Tripped--fell headlong down the stair. An old lady rushed up to him, Said, "Did you miss a step, my son?" He looked up and said, "No, lady, I hit every bloody one!" I'm still looking for one which involves Baby swallowing an alarm clock, which ends: "We fed castor oil to baby Just to pass the time of day.." |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'Silver Thread Among the Gold' Parody From: dick greenhaus Date: 24 Jan 05 - 11:32 AM PS. I really don't see any connection with Oh No, John--a song which points out the benefits of carefully worded questions. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'Silver Thread Among the Gold' Parody From: John M. Date: 24 Jan 05 - 11:46 AM The reason that I believe this parody is derived from Oh, No John because of the verse from that song that goes "May I tie your garter...". There are four versions of Oh, No John in the Cecil Sharp manuscripts (see Idiom of the People pgs 33-37) and all of them contain the "Tie your garter..." verse -- even if the song as collected was only two verses it still retained the "Tie your garter...". Here is a version of Oh, No John from the Sharp mss:
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'Silver Thread Among the Gold' Parody From: John M. Date: 24 Jan 05 - 11:54 AM Here is another version of "The Garter Fixer" (recording) as sung on the underground LP titled Naughty Butt Nice [nd, np, nd (ca. 1968)]. This record is of a bawdy German polka group at a company party. They do bawdy jokes, bawdy songs and, as the band at a party, they are required to announce birthdays. Well it is Mary's birthday and they sing her the following:
So do any of you know & sing the above parody? If yes, when/where did you learn it? |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'Silver Thread Among the Gold' Parody From: GUEST,Gaffer Date: 24 Jan 05 - 11:58 AM I'm a minding of my business When I hears the doorbell clang 'Twas a charity collector Wiv 'is tin can in 'is 'and I'm collecting for tyhe old folks home Says he a rattling 'is can I always like to 'elp the needy So I giv'd 'im my old Gran In the boardin house I lived in Everything was growing old Silver hairs amongst the butter All the cheese was green with mould When the dog died we had sausages When budgie died 'twas Coq-au-vin When the landlord died I scarpered Spare ribs was more than I could stand |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'Silver Thread Among the Gold' Parody From: John M. Date: 24 Jan 05 - 01:47 PM Here a text of the song as sung by Donald Laycock in 1962 to Joe Hickerson (see here):
Laycock says that he learned this while in the army in the early 1950's where it was popular. Referencing The Idiom of the People & the Cecil Sharp manuscripts, he also believed that this was derived from "Oh, No John". |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'Silver Thread Among the Gold' Parody From: GUEST,Messmate Date: 24 Jan 05 - 02:17 PM Regarding John Mehlberg's hypothesis concerning "Oh no John" as a source for the various parodies it may well be the case that "Madam shall I tie your garter Tie it a little above our knee Suppose my hand should slip a little farther Wouldn't you think it rude of me?" is a floating verse of the same type as occurs in many shanties. In the days when hems were at the ankle and garters were worn, the implied sexiness covered by a supposedly gallant offer of such a suggestion would have wide appeal. This alone could explain why all of Sharpe's versions contained it and why it may have surfaced in many guises elsewhere. Love those parodies. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'Silver Thread Among the Gold' Parody From: dick greenhaus Date: 24 Jan 05 - 02:32 PM An offer to "Tie your garter" was c common bit of folkloric foreplay. There are at least 8 examples in the Digital Tradition. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'Silver Thread Among the Gold' Parody From: Jack Horntip Date: 07 Jun 23 - 06:55 AM tune - Silver Threads Among the Gold Untitled, page 131, The Canfield Collection, [c1926] See online here: https://archive.org/details/1926canfieldcollection/page/n131/mode/2up |
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