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Subject: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: Bobert
Date: 15 Feb 05 - 11:50 PM

Okay, I don't get it.

Condi Rice went beforew the 9/11 Comissiopn and said she didn't have a clue that Al Qida was out to get us then....

Yesterdays New York Times gets their hands on a copy of a 13 page memo writtne by Ricartd Carke (rememeber him) sent to Condi Rice telling her just about everything that Al Qidi had panned for the US except the actual date and time???

So Condi tells the 9/11 Commisssion that she didn't have a clue???

Like, now that the 13 page detailed memo about what Al Qida had planned for the US (with the exception ot the *exact dates and times*) I am wondering what Condi and her apologists have to say???

Bobert


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From: Once Famous
Date: 15 Feb 05 - 11:54 PM

I say she has a good chance of possibly running for President.

Who in office don't you hate, bobert?

Why don't you run for something instead of always shooting off your fat, whining mouth?

You are a facist, bobert.


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: Once Famous
Date: 15 Feb 05 - 11:56 PM

Okay, I know this isn't a true obituary, but maybe it is for this national sport, at least as we know it at the professional level. I also know that few folks outside of Canada (or Canadians) are interested, so please bear with me, or skip to the next thread.

For two years, the players and owners have been arguing back and forth over a new binding agreement for wages, bonuses, job security, etc. The most recent contract expired this past spring/summer, and since then the owners have locked out the players... now, on the eve of cancelling the entire season, the players' union has gone back and said, "Okay owners, you can get what you want (sorta)." But, the owners rejected that offer, wanting a little more....

that being said... does anyone care? as far as hockey fans like myself, I mean...


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: Once Famous
Date: 15 Feb 05 - 11:57 PM

Goodnight, Bobert. I'm going to bed.


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From: DougR
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 12:09 AM

Right, Bopert, let's lynch Condi Rice.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: Peace
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 12:21 AM

Condi what? Why not lynch Chicken Fried or Steamed?


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From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 12:31 AM

Martin, old pal, I think you are losing it. Those dang liberals have finally driven you mad. Look, I'm Canadian, and I don't give a hang about the stupid hockey league. They lost all credibility decades ago. I loved them back in the late 60's, early 70's, but those days are gone. You want real hockey? Watch the better European teams play it.

Now, Bobert, I have a simple answer to your question, "What makes Condi lie?"

Politics, Bobert. Politics. It makes all of them lie frequently. If Kerry had gotten elected president, he would be telling lies now too, and hanging in in Iraq. Our PM, Paul Martin, lies regularly. It goes with the job. You've almost GOT to lie. You're in big trouble if you don't. In Ms Rice's case, the lies are pretty outrageous, admittedly, but hey, when you launch "pre-emptive" attacks on other countries...like the Germans did on a number of occasions (Poland, Norway, Denmark, Holland, Belgium, Yugoslavia, Greece, Russia), and like the Japanese did on a number of occasions (China, French Indochina, Hong Kong, Malaya, the Dutch East Indies, Pearl Harbour, etc)...well...then the lies necessarily HAVE to get pretty wild. How DO you call unprovoked aggression, "liberation"? Hmmm. It's a toughie.

So, give her a break, man! She's undah presshah! :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 12:39 AM

p.s. Actually, the Japanese attacks on America in '41 WERE provoked by Roosevelt's trade embargo on Japan...but that's beside the point. It was still blatant aggression, regardless. Roosevelt needed a war in order to deal with Germany, and he got one.


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: Teresa
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 12:48 AM

Martin says: "I say she has a good chance of possibly running for President."

Ha ha ha ha! You may be more righter than you think!   Ah, the irony!

Teresa


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: Boab
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 01:04 AM

Nobody but Rush Limbaugh is more righter than Martin!


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: MarkS
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 01:59 AM

Just think.

The Republicans run Condi

The Democrats run Hillary

What will the threads and comments here be like then?

It boggles the mind!


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: Teresa
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 02:18 AM

I say we need an Emma Goldman or a Mother Jones.

Oh boy, now I'm in for it. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: Amos
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 05:02 AM

Whoeee, T!!

Martin, what do you think about the discrepancy that Bobert is pointing out in the first post?


A


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 11:10 AM

The idea of the Republicans running Condoleeza Rice for president and the Democrats running Hillary Clinton is...just...riveting! My Gawd.

I hope they do it. :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: GUEST,observer
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 11:13 AM

Martin, got any opinions about hockey??? In this thread, like all your comments, all you ever do is repeat your same old argument over and over.

Martin, you twit!


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: Pied Piper
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 11:15 AM

Martin


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From: Pied Piper
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 11:16 AM

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From: Pied Piper
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 11:17 AM

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From: Pied Piper
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 11:17 AM

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From: Pied Piper
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 11:17 AM

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From: Pied Piper
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 11:17 AM

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From: Pied Piper
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 11:18 AM

stutter.


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 11:20 AM

LOL! Was it worth the trouble, Pied?


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From: Pied Piper
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 11:23 AM

Needs must when the Devil vomits in your kettle.


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 11:26 AM

Does any politician need a reason to lie? I thought they had their truth recognition circuits surgically removed just after birth.

DT


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 11:28 AM

If they do decide to run Hillary against Condi in 2008, it should make for a great debate. I can hardly wait. Geez.


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: Once Famous
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 11:34 AM

Pied Piper, you have vomit in your underpants and it ain't your own.


who cares?

condi Rice is going to be quite the fine Secretary of State.

she is an articulate and brilliant woman settling into a very tough job.

I like her style.

bobert, you would stain your shorts if you were in her position. go whine about something else or think up some other thing to just bitch about in your life.


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: Pied Piper
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 12:00 PM

Qualities conspicuous by their absence in your good-self Martin.


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: Peace
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 12:02 PM

Condi puppets the administration line. Too bad.


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: heric
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 12:18 PM

I don't think anyone on earth didn't think Al Qaeda wasn't out to get the US, and airliners, and especially US airliners, for the past decade or two, so I doubt she ever said that in the first place. Islamic terrorists hitting the US and US airliners has been the stuff of B movies for decades. Arnold made much of his career on it.

Anyway, to answer the question, try chocolates and flowers.


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: heric
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 12:33 PM

She is accused of lying because she didn't take immediate and specific action even after hearing: "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States." Think back in time. If you had heard that, you would be as impressed as you would by reading "Global Warming Good for Canada."

Here's where you nail her for lying (I think):

On March 9, 2003, just eleven days before the invasion of Iraq, Dr. Rice appeared on "Face the Nation" and said:

"Now the al-Qaida is an organization that's quite dispersed and --and quite widespread in its effects, but it clearly has had links to the Iraqis, not to mention Iraqi links to all kinds of other terrorists. And what we do not want is the day when Saddam Hussein decides that he's had enough of dealing with sanctions, enough of dealing with, quote, unquote, "containment," enough of dealing with America, and it's time to end it on his terms, by transferring one of these weapons, just a little vial of something, to a terrorist for blackmail or for worse."


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 01:24 PM

That's what I was reminded of, heric. At the hearing she said specifically that to her recollection she had not been warned by the previous administration of any al-Quaeda plot. Then she was asked about the paper that had been discussed at an in-house meeting and was asked: What was the title of that paper?

She said, without a blush: I think it was titled 'Bin Laden Determined to Attack Within the US.'


gaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: Greg F.
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 05:56 PM

Her lying's probably due to her good "christian" upbringing and beliefs-
just like Duimbya himself & the rest of his crew.

Dear Lord, protect me from your followers.


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 09:10 PM

Who are mostly just following the tail of the person immediately ahead of them...


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: GUEST,Peter Woodruff
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 09:22 PM

Martin,
   You can't possibly believe that about Condi? Can You?

Peter


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 09:51 PM

Martin is beyond beliefs, Peter...

He is nuthin' more than a clown in Bush's circus...

Nuthin' more...

Howver, with that said, I enjoy his *liitle* acts. They are as harmless as they are of substance...

No one need minimilize Martin. He's doing a fine job...

Meanwhile, I continue to find it very disturbing that Condi Rice, who has now been proven to be lieing her butt off, is Sectretary of State... This does no bode well for our foriegn policy over the next 4 years...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: dianavan
Date: 17 Feb 05 - 03:40 AM

She's tough, she's smart and she's loyal but she's a misguided,   immoral, deceitful, Auntie Tom.

...and she basks in the approval she gets from the old boys.

In other words, she is a self-serving, ego-maniac.


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From: Once Famous
Date: 17 Feb 05 - 04:59 PM

bobert,

she's in and you are as you would say, nuthin'

Your grammar stinks.

As well as your choice of words and political posturing.

Everyday you dish out your anti-establishment bullshit and everyday I just love rieiculing it for what it is.

Just bullshit.


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From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Feb 05 - 05:16 PM

Sounds like a kind of symbiotic relationship to me... :-)


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From: Ebbie
Date: 17 Feb 05 - 05:29 PM

That's what I was thinking, Little Hawk. Kind of like a well-fed sparrow. Happy, though.


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: Stephen L. Rich
Date: 17 Feb 05 - 10:46 PM

Q: What amkes Condi Lie?

A: Speaking.



Stephen Lee


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: GUEST,Frank
Date: 18 Feb 05 - 12:29 PM

The lies are the Party Line. Bush is her politcal "husband". She said so publicly although it turned out to be a Freudian gaffe on her part.

She isn't saying anything different from any of the other GOP lockstep commentators such as Limbaugh, Hannity, Rumsfeld,
Perle etc. etc.

She is a fine, articulate parrot who cleverly avoids answering any question directly or taking responsibility for anything she does.

Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: Col K
Date: 18 Feb 05 - 06:41 PM

In other words she is a politician


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From: Azizi
Date: 18 Feb 05 - 07:47 PM

Question: What makes Condi Lie?

Response: Well it ain't her soul...

****

Dianavan: ["Auntie Tom"] You go, girlfiend!!

And for those who may not be 'in the know':
         
The term "Auntie Tom" can very well serve as a modern day slicked up version of "Aunt Jemima".

"Aunt Jemina" started out as an African American referent for a bandana wearing country 'colored' gal who wasn't 'hip' to city ways..[see Thomas Talley's 1922 Negro Folk Rhymes for a couple of insult rhymes about the country "Aunt Jemima" who doesn't know the city's "toney" ways...]

The pancake mix brand helped to popularize the "Aunt Jemima" term & image. There actually were head scarf, apron wearing African American women who were payed by that company to become the embodiment of Aunt Jemima as they publicly promoted that brand by cooking pancakes in the 'hood {before it was called the 'hood}...

BTW, studying how the image of Aunt Jemima has changed on the pancake package could be its own research project}.

In the late 1960s, African Americans began derisively using "Aunt Jemima" as a female version of 'Uncle Tom'. In this context [the only one that is usually meant then & now] 'Aunt Jemima' is a woman who in a red hot minute thinks nothing of selling her folks {and others} down the river for her massa's benefit and for her own
self-interest...

"Hankerchief head" is another African American [usually male]insult term for Black folk who tom.. One cover of the now retired Black magazine Emerge had a drawing of 'the Supreme' Clarence Thomas with a hankerchief tied in the front of his head...That magazine cover created a lot of controversy as some Black folks [and others] said that it went over the line.

Personally, I thought it was hilarious and right on point.


Azizi


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: Peace
Date: 18 Feb 05 - 07:53 PM

It is an erroneous conclusion that women are better than men just because they're women (this was suggested on another thread by someone). Power corrupts, and absolute power . . . . One should expect little else from those who jockey and position themselves to be 'next in line' in Washington. Even when they are shown to be deceitful people, they can rest assured of good retirement benefits and a fantastic book deal. Why does she lie? Because she can. Same reason so many of the rest do.


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From: Donuel
Date: 18 Feb 05 - 08:55 PM

Condi whacks Clark

http://www.angelfire.com/md2/customviolins/whacka.jpg


Condi song and dance

http://www.angelfire.com/md2/customviolins/bushdance.jpg


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From: Once Famous
Date: 18 Feb 05 - 11:41 PM

bobert's just got a problem with black women.


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: Azizi
Date: 18 Feb 05 - 11:53 PM

Oh Martin,

give me a break...

Are you representative of all White men...

I don't think so..

IMNSHO, Condi has a problem with Condi...
And unfortunately, that problem plays out in the world and not just in her soul.

Azizi,
a sista sista [that means a Black woman, Martin, in case you didn't know...]


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: NH Dave
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 12:22 AM

Try arrogance. She has more education than most of us have on foreign affairs, and she doesn't mind lording it over those of us who can't possibly be as smart as she. She also pulls a really sour face when told to do something that she feels is beneath her, when her boss requires it.

    Dave


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Subject: RE: BS: What Makes Condi Lie???...
From: Blissfully Ignorant
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 12:04 PM

Ok... take a deep breath, and repeat after me...

Think very carefully before you place your trust in a politician. It doesn't matter if they're black or white, male or female, whatever...when they speak, there's a ninety percent chance they're lying. It's almost a requirement of the job. Rememeber- dishonesty amongst politicians is only a matter of degree.


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