BS: south american sex.. what's the differen

Subject: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: GUEST,Janey
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 12:39 PM

Ok, so my man didn't actually leave me for a South American girl, cos I booted him out before he had actually run off with her, but she did seem to cast a spell over him and he has changed a hell of a lot since. His friends say " oh .. he'll never find another woman like you. Ok, they are great at sex, that's true, but... "

So, I have heard this just once too much. What's the secret ? Vibrating vaginas ? Or just that they are quicker to jump into bed ? Does that continue into a relationship, or is it just to get the man ?

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: GUEST,saulgoldie
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 01:01 PM

Careful with the generalizations about "South American women." There are over a dozen countries with notable cultural differences between them, and even within the countries themselves.

The populations include indigenous, decendants of the Spanish and Italians, and many with African roots. And there are populations of Jews from several countries and former Japanese and. Germans, too. There are many different relationships with the predominant religion: Catholicism. In Brazil, which I know a bit more about, there is a Voodoo influence, and Catholicism per se is not practiced with the same fervency that it is in the States.

As for the sexuality, there is a lot more exposure of skin there. But despite Brazil's rep for prominscuity, there remains strong homo-phobia. How sexy or "good at sex" are they? I have only one experience, and I am not going to out her here. (I call her "lovely wife.") She is first generation Brazillian. Her parents came there from Poland, courtesy of one Adolf Hitler. It would not answer your question to talk about her. I don't know that "South American women are necessarily better at sex or quicker" than anywhere else. Women run the gamut from completely promiscuous to utterly dysfunctional or asexual, as do men.

"Quick to jump into bed" will not by itself attract anyone worthy of you, Janey. Given the diversity of S. AM. cultures, it is not possible to know from a distance whether this particular woman may have been quick. If she was and if that is what he went for then either she is transitional, or he has set his sights far lower than you deserve.

If you are comfortable with sex and not frigid, there is no reason why a good man will not be able to be with you. Sounds like you didn't lose much. It may take some time for you t realize this, though.

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 02:34 PM

No better at it than any other women.

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: greg stephens
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 02:48 PM

Bit of a tricky question to answer,unless you've made a detailed comparative study of sexual styles in different continents. Alas, I've been occupied most of my life with trying to earn my living as a folk musician; this has taken so much time I've never been able to do enough basic research on this obviously interesting topic.

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: bill kennedy
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 02:49 PM

counter-clockwise

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: gnu
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 03:06 PM

If your friends know so much about your (in)ability(s), might they share some of their knowledge with you? Perhaps some books or videos might help?

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: GUEST,Janey
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 03:14 PM

lol ! I think I am great in bed, it's just that I have heard this so many times that it makes you wonder what "they" do that "we" don't !

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 03:18 PM

Sorry about your situation Janey, but my guess is whatever hold she has over your ex has nothing to do with nationality. If that were so, blokes from all over the world would be queuing to go to South America in search of the ideal wife.

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: GUEST,Janey
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 03:21 PM

Em this is getting quite funny because, em, loads of blokes where I live Are flying to South America, picking up wives and coming back here ! And by the way, I wasn't being paranoid or jelous, just wondering how I can improve ! So, no vibrating vaginas then ? I mean, I am a woman, I can only guess !

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: gnu
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 03:22 PM

Ahem, that begs the question... ah, nevermind. I am a gentleman, at times.

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 03:42 PM

I don't know where you live Janey, I certainly never heard of a "wife trade" in S.America... Me, I looked around my home country and there were plenty of good girls I might have ended up with - but in the end I imported my wife from the UK.

Or rather, it looks like she imported me... Dang, I've been had!

But to get serious for a moment: Relationships are naturally complex, and although the quality of sex offered by the pertner plays an important part, it is in no way the only parameter for a happy relationship. There are other factors too, like ability to share interests, have a conversation, match housekeeping expectations, the presence of children (and their age), financial dependency, social pressures etc. And one parameter is of course the "male manopause", or whatever it is that makes near-50-year-old married men suddenly starting to look around and stray in fear that their biological clock is about to stop ticking and they'll miss future chances to spread their seed - or whatever.

You don't mention your husband's age - maybe it is this latter factor that is at play here. I have seen perfectly sane men drop the past and run after the promise of a few extra hours of carnal bliss, only to realise later that there had been more to life than that.

All the world's vibrating vaginas couldn't lure me away from the Best Girl In The World - for me.

So, my advice is: don't try to compete in the sex arena. You have many other factors in your favour, I am sure - they are your strength, and they may one day be the reason for his return. Whether you'll have him back, is another matter.

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 04:33 PM

The only thing I know about South American sex is that the men, when they want to look sexy, often wear clothes that would get them labeled gay if they were North American.

I know this only because I've seen the catalogs, for example, International Male.

(I work in the mailroom of a university that has lots of South American students.)

At least I THINK the guys who get these catalogs are straight.

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: SINSULL
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 04:39 PM

So you don't think that the Union Jack is a sexy look?

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: Deckman
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 06:24 PM

Actually, down there ... THEY DO VIBRATE! Bob

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 07:10 PM

Well my ex was Portuguese and the sex was fantastic, pity about the rest!! Maybe it's the Latin blood?
G ☺

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: katlaughing
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 07:17 PM

Wonder what Escamillo would think of this thread. :-(

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 07:48 PM

The exotic is a powerful attractant.

There is also the factor that differing immunity factors seem to play a strong part in sexual attraction. The theory (not ID correct!) goes that a male-female pairing with the same genetic immunity factors are less strongly attracted than a pairing with immunity systems that are widely different. This gives offspring with a wider genetic immunity response, which is more beneficial (see - not ID approved!) to the survival of the children.

There is also the 'seven year itch'. This is based on the (non-ID!) idea that about seven years is long enough for the first child to be more or less self sufficient, so it is time for the couple to separate and stir the gene pool again.

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 09:26 PM

Bye, Buy, Brazil.

Late seventies, December, Buenos Aeres, hotel Commodore, no AC, became aware of the "Hot Latin Blood," as for three nights straight, outside my window, they were doing "IT" in the bushes all night long.

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: gnu
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 06:58 PM

They drink blood? I that was Eastern Europeon.

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 07:49 PM

Now, THIS....this I know absolutely NOTHING about! LOL! I only wish I did, that's all...

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: Cluin
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 10:10 PM

Well, I'd like to volunteer to make an extensive Hands-and-Other-Parts-On comparative study.

I'll get back to you with the results later. If I survive.

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 11:47 PM

In the northern hemisphere vaginas rotate counter clockwise. In the southern hemisphere . . . .

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 01 Dec 05 - 06:00 AM

loads of blokes where I live Are flying to South America, picking up wives and coming back here !

In a former lifetime, military training included brief discussion of "international marriage." One of the things that sort of stuck was the comment that those (of "another" culture) who "fraternize" are generally not representative of the population from which they come.

When large groups of "furiners" spend time as a group in another country, the only ones they're likely to see (intimately, at least) are those who have less than typical options among their own people, who have self-selected themselves to "volunteer" to associate with those of the other group, in hopes that they'll find a way out of their own "deadend(?)" situation among their own people.

I would expect that something of the same self-selection quite probably occurs in any place where you find significant numbers of persons willing to seek, or even to accept, the prospect of "marrying out" of where they were raised. It shouldn't take long, when one or two report that they've managed a good deal, for the few others who might see it as an opportunity to congregate and start trading notes. It doesn't take much discussion 'mongst a group of motivated women anywhere in the world to figure out how to appeal to "any average male" (generic variety) if they're sufficiently motivated to settle for that.

If one believes the internet, there are "mail order brides" available of nearly any nationality and/or cultural background, but the ones who volunteer typically will not really be representative of the cultures from which they come. No particular background is needed to "hook" the average available male, and particularly one who's been unsuccessful on his own home turf. A little flattery, and a pretense that he's really wonderful...

If you're fishing, you go where they're biting. If you don't know where they're biting, you go where somebody caught one, so if something like what is described really is happening, they're (the available women) probably all in the same village by now.

But it's not "south american sex." It's motivated sex with a purpose and is probably confined to a fairly small subpopulation even of the village.

John

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 01 Dec 05 - 07:12 AM

Oww! And I was just learning the Macarena and the Lambada in hope...

OK - back to Zorba

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: skarpi
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 01:39 AM

Sometime´s men (and women )think the grass is greener on the other side'
but it ain´t he´ll be back , by then he will both been loosen you and the other women.

sure I look at the other wimen who I see around but no foolin a round
boys or girls, I have been merried for 19 years , and I get a lot of offer to sleep with other women but I don´t .

why? becouse the grass is not any better on the other side.

All the best Skarpi Iceland.

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 05:34 AM

Names??
Phone numbers????
Addresses ?????











G.

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 06:52 AM

The grass is only greener on the other side if it wasn't laid 'green side up'!

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 07:05 AM

I will be only to happy to help in any practical survey

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 07:39 AM

Skarpi -

True, usually the grass really isn't greener on the other side of the fence; but if someone really wants out of their current situation (like women who might offer themselves as "mail order brides") and if a male really is unsuccessful at finding a "soulmate" in his own home place, then sometimes going around to the gate might offer benefit to both.

But I'd bet against it in most cases, despite having seen a number of "cross-cultural" marriages that appeared to work quite well. The ones that worked generally took a lot of work that doesn't seem forthcoming in the situation described.

John

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: mooman
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 08:08 AM

I don't know but would be happy to try and find out...

Ouch! (Didn't see Patricia standing there...)

moo

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: GUEST,Bill the sound
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 08:09 PM

Thet do it the opposite side up from us in the north

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 11:15 PM

Skarpi, you are a smart man.

I think it's a pity that a man who has been happily (enough) married for X number of years may then shuck his mate and take off for new pools. Since he has found someone to love - and that's not easy - why not explore new waters with that woman by his side?

And then discover, as Skarpi said, that the water is not 'cooler', the grass is not greener, but in the process they have lost that which they had.

This, by the way, is not autobiographical but I have seen it happen many more times than two.

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Dec 05 - 04:27 AM

I know two older men who have younger Phillipina 'Trophy Wives' To me they both look ridiculous, and I know that one of the two ladies concerned has discovered retail therapy in a big way, much to her husband's chagrin. I think he's regretting the idea now as his bank balance shrinks. hehe.
G

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 03 Dec 05 - 04:52 AM

Ebbie, Skarpi, I'm with you. JohnInKansas, I agree about the exceptional cases, and also about the difficulties of cross-cultural relationships. Yet I have seen several such flourish (mine included, I'd like to think). So what does it take to make a cross-cultural relationship work? Here's my take on it:

The key is in the individuals' characters, and in particular in two aspects: First, how absolute they are in their expectations of what is happiness (after all, happiness is simply the matching or exceeding of expectation); and second, how open they are to accepting the differences in others (whether the differences are cultural or not).

When both prospective partners are happy to accept differences in each other (and even learn from them); and when they are willing to modify their teenage dreams to find happiness where they did not expect it originally, then it works, and it's magic.

Of course, the above is valid for any relationship, even for boy-and-girl-next-door. It's just that mixed-culture relationships involve more and bigger differences, and test these two aspects of the character more.

I am sure that at 18 Nessie dreamt of the cottage with the white picket fence and the roses round the door, the hard-working but tender husband, and Mum and Dad and her best friends living round the corner. Instead, she got 16 different adresses in 3 different countries in 33 years, had to learn two new languages just to get by in daily life, never had either Mum or Mum-in-law within reach to look after the children, spent 8 years singing children's songs and talking child-talk, and had a husband who pissed off on trips all the time (and when he had some spare time pissed off to choir practice or some musical activity). Stresses? Yes, there have been some - several, especially in the early years, as we learned to adjust. Happiness? I wouldn't change it for the world.

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: danensis
Date: 03 Dec 05 - 12:56 PM

I wonder if there is an opportunity (I nearly said "opening") here for a folk dating site? Most of the on-line dating sites don't even give "folk music" as an option.

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Dec 05 - 01:12 PM

I shall design a questionnaire immediately, it might work!!
G.

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 03 Dec 05 - 02:15 PM

John²

But all the eligible folkers are here at mudcat, aren't they.

You'd never make a profit with your dating service since all one has to do is start their own thread. (Maybe the ones who've tried weren't really serious.)

John

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: gnu
Date: 03 Dec 05 - 02:46 PM

G... I can't wait for yor questionnaire!

Let me be the first to answer the first question.

Sex? Yes please.

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: MaineDog
Date: 03 Dec 05 - 07:50 PM

I had a Brazilian friend in college who was really quite handsome, but he complained that he couldn't get a date. After several months someone told him that here, he had to ask the girls out, not the other way round, which he was used to.

MD

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 Dec 05 - 05:17 PM

It may be that you need to factor in the economic aspect.

Women who are "shopping" for a richer husband, will, if they are South American (or Lithuanian, or Philipina, etc) find a fat middle aged American more attractive than a woman who is already Aemrican will.

So they will be more motivated to discover his preferences and to pander the them.

This is not nationality specific.

Subject: RE: BS: south american sex.. what's the differen
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 04 Dec 05 - 05:20 PM

I always fancied Bill Gates myself...