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Just pucker up and blow

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WHISTLE, DAUGHTER, WHISTLE


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Subject: Just pucker up.....and blow!
From: JennieG
Date: 07 Jan 07 - 11:38 PM

Last night a local TV station showed a wonderful film, "Pucker Up: the fine art of whistling", about the 31st Louisburg International Whistling Competition. It (the film - the contestants found the competition rather nerve-wracking) was a lot of fun.

I can remember my father whistling around the place, and my grandfather taught me to whistle when I was about 5 years old. Isn't there an old adage about ladies not whistling? If so, I never took any notice of it!

He whistled and he sang 'til the green woods rang.......

Cheers
JennieG


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: wysiwyg
Date: 07 Jan 07 - 11:42 PM

Wal, now me, I pucker up and blow, but I also pucker up and suck. You can do that all day and never stop making notes just to get a little air in? Whistle blowing out, as well as sounding notes pulling the air back in. Must be how harmonica players do it, too. Who needs a harmonica though-- if you got yer pucker witcha, you don't need nothing else!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: Rowan
Date: 07 Jan 07 - 11:50 PM

It was a great program alright, and I was surprised and impressed by the totally different styles that are all regarded as "whisting". Susan, I had considerable trouble keeping a straight face while reading your post; I wanted to both whistle and read "pecker" where you had written "pucker".

Sigh!

Cheers, Rowan


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Jan 07 - 11:57 PM

My dad whistled a lot, too, until his face was burned. He had no scars except that he could not whistle very well after that. We all whistled. And, of course, we believed "give a little whistle" as told to do by Jiminy Cricket!

Sounds like a neat show!


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: JennieG
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 12:12 AM

Kat, I googled it and there are many websites with references to the film, it has even won awards. It was a lovely gentle film. See it if you get the chance!

Just whistle while you work.......

Cheers
JennieG


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 12:17 AM

Ah, but it was Bacall who made whistling sexy....


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: freda underhill
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 01:25 AM

Pucker Up: The Fine Art of Whistling I enjoyed it too, jennie. it features the Louisburg, North Carolina International whistling competition, and includes a lot of great clips of whistling scenes from various movies, including The Bridge On The River Kwai - you can hear the famous whistling tune accompanied by full brass band..

for those who are interested in whistling as a musical form, I found this other site The Whistler and for bird song enthusiasts this one bird songs from around the world

the only whistling that i hear around erko is a man we call the Bird Man - he lives on the streets and whistles like a bird whenever he passes by.. you can hear some australian bird songs here

freda


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: Bugsy
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 01:33 AM

It was good wasn't it? I've been a whistler since I can remember. My dad used to whistle all the time.

The wife hates it!


Cheers


Bugsy


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: freda underhill
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 01:48 AM

more here .. The Online Guide to Whistling Records..


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 03:23 AM

While the boys may be more likely to whistle while they work, at least if they happen to work out in the open, it was always the girls who "studied at whistling."

At least when I was a kid, every school seemed to have at least one lady teacher, and each PTA had a couple of ma'ms, and you could shake at least one "artsy lady" out at about any church social to do some fancy bird calls, trills, and - rarely, some doubletone self-harmonies.

In my region, it seemed to sort of fade away around the early 50s, although it was always purty enough that someone must be keeping the skills alive. (I think kids don't spend enough time outdoors - and alone - any more.)

The boys were divided between the ones who could do one or two notes "real loud" and the much smaller group who could actually do melodies. Of course there was always one gal, usually the tall skinny one with lots of no 'count brothers, who could rip off the loud ones to shame all the guys so they'd go some'ers else to do their whistlin'.

John


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: Myrtle
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 04:08 AM

Strange but I've never thought bout it before, I whistle tunes all the time, tho' the only bird call I can do is an owl!

Always wanted to be able to do 'cat-calls' and never could, tho' I still haven't given up trying!!
The adage I remember my Gran quoting at me was:

A crowing cock,
A barking dog
And a whistling woman
Should all have their heads chopped off......

Seems a LITTLE harsh!

Regards, Myrtle.


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 04:50 AM

It's just one of those male dominated tasks that ego-centric Man didn't want us to do because we could probably do it better!

It's also unlucky to whistle in church too, you're thought to be 'whistling up' (calling) the devil.

If you really want to freak out a superstitious person, get several ladies wearing green dresses, whistling, whilst walking anti- clockwise around the inside of a church. Oh, and try to make one of them squinty or left handed!

I could never whistle between my fingers until after I broke my front tooth. The china replacement is in a better alignment to my other front tooth, and makes a better fiple.

I whistle at work.. it really pisses off the bloke who sits opposite me ~ he can talk for 3 hours straight in what seems like one breath, and on one subject - himself.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: Mo the caller
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 06:58 AM

That rhyme posted above seems to say the opposite of the one I heard
A whistling woman
And a crowing hen
Will frighten the Devil
Out of his den.

After all it's cocks that crow and men that whistle, anything else must ne unnatural!!

Mo the whistling woman (but not often)


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: Paul Burke
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 07:48 AM

But don't whistle to sailors or fishing folk.


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 09:37 AM

Thanks, JennieG, for the tip about the film. I'll see if I can get a DVD.

I still remember the great day, when I was perhaps four years old, that I managed to produce my first whistle. It was very weak and husky, but I had figured out the main thing - how to hold my tongue. Whistling has been a source of pleasure for me ever since.

There are two sides to whistling, however. A lawyer I know emits a weak, pathetic "whooshing" which gets under people's skin big-time. He says he learned it from his grandmother. (The grandmother had probably been ridiculed to the point where she was afraid to whistle clearly and musically.) I think it's the cringeing (sp) nature of it that gets on people's nerves.


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: Flash Company
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 10:13 AM

My ole gran had it as ....

A whistling woman and a crowing hen,
Will call the Devil out of his den.

Used to be the art of every errand boy, but, alas, no more. How the hell do you whistle rap?
I still whistle jazz improvisations, I think there is probably a saxophonist lost in me somewhere.
Remember as a kid seeing a comedian/raconteur name of Albert Whelan who started his act walking across the stage in Evening Dress whistling a tune called 'Der freulige brudern'(The jolly brothers).
On reaching centre stage, he would lay down his cane, remove his top hat, and slowly take off his gloves, dropping them into the hat on the last note of the tune. I loved that tune, still do!

FC


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: Rowan
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 04:43 PM

The film explores reasons why whistling was common ("frequent" rather than any other meaning) until the 1950s and then seemed to die off as a routine activity. The main argument is that trannies and other portable forms of musical entertainment (iPods, these days) have replaced the need for many of us to provide our own musical entertainment.

And there were always the naysayers. I enjoyed whistling melodies (couldn't play any other sort of instrument then) and would have a go at anything. During a Chemistry I prac class I was so engrossed in what I was doing that I forgot I was whistling La Donne e Mobile but the final cadenza brought a round of applause from the rest of the lab. The senior demonstrator 'had a quiet word' to me, to the effect that he didn't want a repetition of any whistling in the lab.

That I could live with but worse was to come. Before my girlfriend's mum became my mother-in-law she was a deadly killjoy whenever I amused myself around her house by singing or whistling to myself. "Can you sing?" she'd enquire, if I were whistling or, "Can you whistle?" if I were singing. Both questions were asked with that acidic tone in her voice that would etch metal as well as confidence. Many times I've argued that these comments were the reason why my wife always regarded herself as tone deaf. Certainly she appeared that way if she thought anybody could hear her. I once heard her singing to herself when she thought I was out of the house and she was pitch perfect with a beautiful voice; she stopped as soon as she became aware of my presence and nothing could persuade her to sing again.

If you get a chance to see the film, jump at it.

Cheers, Rowan


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: Gizmo
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 06:19 PM

i love whistling and so do my son and my cousins daughter. My grandad used to whistle all the time apparently. My son also has very similar pale blue eyes as my grandad, so was a shock to my mum, when at 3 and half years he was trying to whistle, and mastered it by the time he was 5.

When not making whooping noises, you will often find the boy whistling. I have often been found to whistle on the bus, waiting at a checkout etc, even just walking down a quiet road.

I was even whistling tonight as I went to a meeting - but can't for the life of me remember what it was - although some little drunkard started shouting out merry christmas, happy new year to me.

I will sign up first for the green dress, whistling in the church walking anti-clockwise, Liz - any other talers?


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 06:29 PM

Me, me, me! Green is my favourite colour AND I love to be contrary!

Jennie, thanks, I will look for it!


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 07:09 PM

"I pucker up and blow, and then I pucker up and suck.
If you got yer pucker witcha, you don't need nothing much!"

That (slightly edited) sounds like the germ of a promising song, WYSIWYG.

Every nowm and then there are these stories about how people don'tb whstle in thestreets any more. I don't believe it's true.


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: JennieG
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 08:08 PM

McGrathm that is definitely the start of a good song. Perhaps we should start a Mudcat Whistlers group!

All together now......

If I were a blackbird I'd whistle and sing........

Cheers
JennieG


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 08:28 PM

Funny, I was just doing some serious whistling today as I paced back and forth in the laundramat waiting for my duds to dry, and then got thinking maybe I should put a little dab of it on the upcoming CD - not that I'm all that good, but I can produce a recognizable tune within a limited range, and it does seem a dying art. (Attn: McGrath -->) Haven't heard anyone whistling in the streets in ages ...


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: Cluin
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 10:16 PM

That Roger Whittaker can really whistle.


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 11:36 PM

When my husband and I become separated in a large store, I find him by whistling something, usually a certain bouree by Leopold Mozart. When he hears me, he whistles in reply, and so I find him.

Rowan, your story about your vandalizing mother-in-law makes my heart ache. That kind of thing is all too common nowadays. The attitude seems to be, "If you want music, buy it."


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 11:47 PM

Can an ear-worm be a lip-worm? I've been whistling the Jiminy Cricket song all day! My grandson loves it.

leeneia, I know what you mean. I take my grandson to a Music & MOvement class once per week. The teacher is a young mother who is getting her teaching degree in early childhood. She is well-meaning and very open to suggestions. I have been slowly encouraging her to use some hands-on instruments instead of the CDs the city has provided her for the classes. Been doing so since Oct. Today she told me they had finall bought some recorders. It's a start. We also talked about making drums and I offered to bring in my dulcimer, baritone uke, an old plucked psaltery and an old autoharp sans chord bars, just so they have something to pluck, some feel for live music. We will definitely be having a great class sometime soon. They are a bit young to whistle, but it won't hurt them to hear it, too.:-)


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 01:01 AM

I suppose most time I hear someone whistling in the street it tends to be me. It's not a conscious act to start whistling, I just notice that I am. The decision is whether to continue. The times I whistle are when I'm walking on my own, or working outside on my own, and I suspect that'd be true for most people.

It may be that modern life reduces the situation where that would apply, a lot of us tend to be in crowds of one sort or another, and you wouldn't whistle in a crowd normally.

It occurs to me to wonder about whistling in other cultures - I mean where the music is different, quarter tones and different scales and so forth.

The other thing that some people do a lot more than others is hum. I think that can be even more indicative of mood than whistling. You can whistle in all kinds of moods, and the whistling reflects it - fierce, happy, frightened. But a hum is always contented, it seems to me.


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: Rowan
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 01:13 AM

You'd like the film then, McGrath, as it shows a couple of examples of people whistling as a means of long-distance communication with "language" as part of the whistled message. Spain was one source. And the winner of the competition was Dutch.

One of the whislers interviewed tried to emphasise the point that you couldn't whistle a tune properly unless you were in a happy/contented mood.

Cheers, Rowan


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 03:26 AM

Ah McGrath.... don't come near me if you hear me humming without headphones or some sort of music... it means I'm about to rip someone's head off and spit down their necks.... if I'm humming it's because I'm trying to calm my self down and failing miserably!

LTS


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: sapper82
Date: 10 Feb 07 - 07:01 AM

Strange how two threads on whistling start up within a couple of days!


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: Alec
Date: 10 Feb 07 - 07:10 AM

Oh Susan! Harmonica players don't "Suck" we "Draw". :-)


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: SouthernCelt
Date: 10 Feb 07 - 08:48 AM

I hit on this thread while whistling along with some of Gillian Welch's songs that have that Appalachian backwoods sound (I compiled my own CD of selections off of her published albums). Whistling is something I do frequently when I'm alone or listening to whistle-able music.
I once had a older neighbor who was an old-time guitar and mandolin player. (I loved 'jamming' with him; me on guitar, him on mandolin.) When he would be out mowing his lawn, he'd be whisling so loud he could be heard above the sound of the mower all the way over at my house which was some distance away. He was a highly practiced whistler though; he could bend notes and get a distinct simultaneous multi-note sound just by the way he held his lips. I've never been able to do that.
SC


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 10 Feb 07 - 07:27 PM

Do people ever whistle together? Either in unison or harmony? It always seems a pretty solitary thing, whistling tunes (or tunelessly), as against whisting to get somene's attention or guve some ind of signal. If I'm whistling as I'm walking along I tend to stop if I see someone else coming in earshot.

That's one reason I'm a a bit sceptical about putting too much reliance on people saying they never seem to hear anyone whistling, so it must be dying out. I have a feeling it's a human behaviour rather more deeply engrained than that.


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 10 Feb 07 - 07:45 PM

As one of those aforementioned people - I have no doubt it's a dying art in this country (Canada) at least. Yes, there are probably still some closet whistlers, but there was a time when it was common to hear people whistling loud and proud all over the place (I particularly associate it with the tradesmen of my childhood). I'm a bit skeptical about the idea that in secret people are whistling as much as they ever did.

I whistle happily in public, although I'm sometime reminded by the reaction of passers-by that it has become an unusual activity. Okay, what about the rest of youse?


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Subject: RE: Just pucker up.....and blow
From: Flash Company
Date: 11 Feb 07 - 10:07 AM

I guess it is very difficult to whistle rap! At least The tuunes of yesteryear had a melody to go at.

FC


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