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The Winders of Wyresdale

25 Apr 13 - 02:35 PM (#3508786)
Subject: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: GUEST,Andy Hornby

Just like to publicise my book about the Winder family of Wyresdale nr Lancaster, and their music. Over 600 tunes from 4 related manuscripts from 1780s to 1840s.
More details at www.andyhornby.net/Winders.html

Andy


25 Apr 13 - 04:05 PM (#3508828)
Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: treewind

How splendid! I already play several tunes out of the Winder manuscripts. Order placed and I expect to have a lot of fun with this.

Anahata


26 Apr 13 - 01:47 AM (#3508990)
Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: SteveMansfield

Great stuff, order placed. Jack The Hair Courser is one of my favourite tunes, look forward to receiving the book and playing through it in search of other gems.


26 Apr 13 - 02:24 AM (#3509003)
Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: Les in Chorlton

What a truly spendid book:

Have a look here


26 Apr 13 - 09:30 AM (#3509129)
Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: GUEST,leeneia

You've done a good thing, Andy, but I have two questions.

Do you ship internationally? Is that still 3 pounds?

Does Winder have a long i or a short?


26 Apr 13 - 11:05 AM (#3509174)
Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: Chris Partington

I have placed links to your book from here:-

http://folkopedia.efdss.org/wiki/Tune_Manuscripts_List

and here:-

http://folkopedia.efdss.org/wiki/Books_published_since_about_1900_containing_mainly_tunes_from_the_English_repertoire


26 Apr 13 - 11:28 AM (#3509191)
Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: SteveMansfield

Just noticed in my own earlier post - Jack The Hair Courser - Jack The Hare Courser of course.


One day an iPad auto-spelling-correction is going to start a war ...


26 Apr 13 - 11:36 AM (#3509195)
Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: treewind

Winder has a short 'i'.
I can't answer about Andy's postage...


26 Apr 13 - 03:36 PM (#3509325)
Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: GUEST,Blowzabella sans cookie

I'm priveleged to live very close to where the Winders lived, in Wyresdale and the church there still has the instruments from the church 'band'. there's a fabulous set of photos on flickr which show the church, its setting and the landscape which the Winders knew LINK


26 Apr 13 - 05:35 PM (#3509369)
Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: GUEST,leeneia

Thanks for the link, Blowzabella. I enjoyed looking at the pictures. You are fortunate to live in such a beautiful place.

Steve, I thought a hair courser was a male beautician till you corrected yourself. Sigh...


27 Apr 13 - 01:58 PM (#3509673)
Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: SteveMansfield

I learn from The Guardian today that the word for such an auto-correction is apparently a cupertino.

Which I share (a) to get the word better known and (b) to bump this thread ;)


01 May 13 - 08:13 AM (#3510654)
Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: SteveMansfield

I received my copy yesterday, and an extremely good production it is too. The book is perfect bound (e.g. like a standard paperback book) and large format, which may prove troublesome to keep open on a music stand, but makes it a good quality object (printed by and sent direct from the Lulu self-publishing operation, I noted with interest). Those who own the recent EFDSS reissue of the 'Great Northern Tune Book' will find this current book a worthy shelf-mate in format as well as in content.

The well-written prefaces are interesting and cover the history of the Winder family, the wider historical context of the music, and the various dance forms associated with the tunes with a separate article on the renowned Greensleeves Kick My A**e dance [Winder's apostrophes].

The tunes are very legibly typeset, generally three or four to a page, organised by tune type and then (more unusually) by key within each tune type. The tunes are lightly annotated in the music pages (title, alternative title, and an abbreviated indicator of which of the four Winder Mss that tune comes from), with an an appendix to the book giving further informational notes on each individual tune.

And what tunes they are. A splendid mixture of the familiar, new variants of the familiar, and delightful new discoveries (to me at least). I greatly look forward to playing this book through from cover to cover, and then introducing some of them into my various playing projects. Having owned a PDF of a previous, much smaller, edition of this collection for many years I was delighted to learn that the project to publish the full collection had been realised, and the end result does not disappoint.

If a better tune book is published this year I shall be (a) very surprised and (b) delighted to have two such excellent tune books appear in the same year! Top marks and much success to Andy Hornby.


02 May 13 - 04:31 AM (#3510922)
Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: Les in Chorlton

I can only wholeheartedly agree. This is an extrordinary book. Loads of great tunes, background information, woodcuts and photographs - it's got the lot.

But mostly a glimpse, and a big one at that, of dance music in its context from the last 2 or 3 hundred years.

If you have any interest in this kind of music and it's history - or you know someone who does - by this book now and buy it for all your friends - you and they will have much fun


05 May 13 - 06:14 AM (#3511762)
Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: Les in Chorlton

Refresh


05 May 13 - 07:42 AM (#3511783)
Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: Brian Peters

I've been playing tunes from the Winder MSS for years, both solo and with Rising Sun. There is some incredible stuff in there. Looking forward to the book!


05 May 13 - 09:33 AM (#3511807)
Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: Will Fly

Ordered mine about an hour ago - and really looking forward to it!


05 May 13 - 09:39 AM (#3511809)
Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: Les in Chorlton

Took mine down The Beech (M21 0XJ) last week - people seriously impressed


06 May 13 - 02:49 PM (#3512242)
Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: GUEST,Andy Hornby

Hi leeneia.

It's Winder with a short i. Like the wind that blows in the trees.   If you want to email me at andy.hornby@gmail.com. With your address, I'll find out how much for postage. I think if it's in Europe, it will be printed in France and I'd be interested to try it!


06 May 13 - 02:58 PM (#3512251)
Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: GUEST,Andy Hornby

Hi Steve..

You'll find the tune under Jack the HORSE Courser. I'd be interested to know if it's the same tune!


06 May 13 - 03:41 PM (#3512269)
Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: SteveMansfield

Horses for courses ..., yes it's horse courser, slip of the brain. Read the title in the book and still didn't make the correction. If only Mudcat had an Edit This Post function ...


07 May 13 - 09:03 AM (#3512563)
Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: GUEST,Andy Hornby

A cupertino of the brain?   Always ready for a cupertino!


08 May 13 - 05:19 PM (#3513161)
Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: Andyhornpipe

Hi Brian..

The book is available from www.andyhornby.net/Winders.html

Andy H


09 May 13 - 02:13 PM (#3513467)
Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: GUEST,Mary Humphreys

Jack the Horse Courser is a misremembered version of the overture to the rarely-performed opera Ottone by Handel. I once heard it played on Radio 3 ( very early morning, if I recall) and immediately recognised it as the same tune.


17 May 13 - 07:44 AM (#3516107)
Subject: RE: The Winders of Wyresdale
From: Will Fly

Just a footnote to this thread to say what a superb book Andy has put together. Not only are the 600+ tunes great, there's a huge amount of fascinating fact about the people, place, families, tunes and dances of the period covered. Particularly fascinating to me, who spent some time in Lancaster (1957-68) and who still has relatives and connections in the city.

Many thanks to you for a great addition to my tunes collection - just going through "The Physiognomist" (in Bb - yes!) on my tenor guitar only this morning.