Hi sourdough; WOW I haven't been checking Mudcat to often, But just checked today. Were you at the old Hoots Yale 1993-1974 + - ? I was there w/ camera and old Ampro tape recorder. Have about 60 c-90 tapes of the Hoots. I did sing "Silver Dager" with Margaret. But alas no recordings of Margaret or Ann Bird. You mention writing earlier about them but I didn't pick up on it. Yes she did ride a motorcycle I have photos of her on it. Probably around 1963 or so .At that time I believe she was living in NYC I believe she knew Marty Brennan, Chas Barton, Ian Buchannan [Has since died]. I am attempting to find Margaret Wagner. Where is she?? . Yes we are now having Reunions of old people who sang at the Hoot', about 2 times a year. In fact I am now in the process of making copies of 2 C-90 tapes of the one we had in May. Is there some way I can get a copy of what you have of Ann and margaret singing?? Tapes? or did they actually make a recording? I will send blank tapes and some of the copies I have of the Hoot material in return Please contact me by E-mail alsch@worldnet.att.net I will keep checking mudcat also Allan