Re the Crimea, Gareth Giok et al, Does anyone else out there ever wonder why we chose the names of some pretty useless commanders to be associated with clothing? "Raglan" sleeves and the "Cardigan" spring to mind. Any others? I don't count the "Wellington" as at least he knew his trade and got it right mostly. I suppose this is still remotely connected with music...... Sorry I started the whole thing off now.