The Beverley folk festival FRINGE

Subject: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: del boy
Date: 29 Apr 14 - 05:54 PM

THE BEVERLEY FOLK FESTIVAL FRINGE
Friday 20 Saturday 21 Sunday 22 June 2014
The Beverley FRINGE is held in three pubs Hodgsons ,The Sun Inn and The Tiger Inn. We will be having sessions singarounds, open mics and live performances. Please come and join us and join in
Hodgsons
Friday night at 7 30pm The welcome session with Les & Maggie
Saturday 1 00pm session with Derek Waudby Saturday 3 00pm session with Carol Southwell Saturday night 7 30 session with Jim McDonald
Sunday 1 00pm session with Derek Waudby Sunday 3 00pm singer songwriter session with Martin Wharton Sunday night 5 30 Survivors session with Les & Maggie....
Sun Inn
Friday night music and song free and easy
Saturday 1 30pm music and song The big session with John Shuttleworth
Sunday 1 00pm session with Jim McDonald....
The Tiger Inn
Friday night 8 00 music and song session with Jo and Graham
Saturday 1 00pm Americana meets Country session with John Yerman and John Nixon Saturday 5 00pm open mic with Derek Waudby Saturday night 7 30 Showcase night with 8 live acts
Sunday 1 00pm music session with Gordon Bown....

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST
Date: 12 May 14 - 01:47 PM

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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,beverley regular
Date: 13 May 14 - 06:39 AM

Yeh, load of all amateurs and has been buskers. but what is happening at the REAL festival?

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Michael
Date: 13 May 14 - 08:30 AM

You can find out here :http://www.beverleyfestival.com/programme/2014-artists.html

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,beverley regular
Date: 16 May 14 - 07:17 AM

Thats better.. might go to this..went to this so called fringe for a coupla years..load of chancers and meeling folkies in a coupla pubs..Thought Sun might be a little better..but no!!! So called singaround run by a cou;pla big fat drunks who did not seem to know what they were doing...Hey Ho!! its the race course for me to see some class.Chris Wade really knows how to put a festival on!!

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 16 May 14 - 08:25 AM

Must be a bit sad being a regular who is not on the mailing list?

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Another Guest
Date: 17 May 14 - 09:09 AM

Surely it should be the festival CRINGE??

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST
Date: 17 May 14 - 09:38 AM

The last three guests are a sad lot. More power to the fringe I say. At least it is in Beverley!

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 17 May 14 - 11:58 AM

Agree with guest 0938 Mudcat time.

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Dáithí
Date: 19 May 14 - 06:29 AM

The Fringe looks a better bet than the programme. Not much of a showcase for new or existing traditional style musicians, I think...

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST
Date: 19 May 14 - 06:39 AM

before the fest moved to the racecourse it used to be so easy to wander into town on foot to see what was going off in the pubs. I do miss that!

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,beverley regular..
Date: 19 May 14 - 07:06 AM

Oh Dear the old old story how good the last one as and how easy it was to wander from pub to pub.The race course is in easy reach of the town and there are buses laid on for the more lazier of. you.Let us face it, the so called "fringe" has never had any thing to do with the main fest..and even if the fest could be fitted into the beverley square very few would be intrested in paying to go to this event.They are intrested however in free beer provided by the pubs and free camping provided by the festival..and lets face it that is the real beef if they were honest.Other festivals are held out of town and they suffer no probs.

But no!!!! the little "elite" of so called musicians and singers would rather sit smugly in their own little dream world slagging of real musos who gather at festivals to entertain EVERYONE not just there own little heas up ass clique.

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 19 May 14 - 08:04 AM

I've got my tickets for the Racecourse.

There's a great line up of runners - I can't wait for the off!

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 19 May 14 - 10:53 AM

I'm hoping to get across for the fringe events on the Saturday. I especially like the idea of the two John's country/americana session.

R

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,beverley regular
Date: 20 May 14 - 06:56 AM

Ah them was the days eh?Rog.When you ran the peoples voice and it was ALL inclusive..happy days but we must move on and keep music live..

We dont do that by distancing ourselves to what is going on.Give the Beverley fest. a chance it only ran the one year on the racecourse so a lot of hitches.You dont solve any of that by smugly sitting in pubs saying you are the real face/authority of local music.

The so called fringe is only a very small part of what Beverley fest has to offer.You cant even field local MCs to rtun your "Sessions?" bringing in people from Hartlepool and Sheffield.

Some of the best MCS like Sir Rog and the big lad who run Monks sessions have left the area and moved on.

So come on ..Chris Wade and her team has bent over backwards to put on one of Britains top festivals..a familly festival Beverley can be justly proud of.

Let us all give her our unstinting support..

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 20 May 14 - 07:17 AM

I agree with you that there is a place for both and the festival does so too by advertising the fringe on its website and running shuttle buses into town.

Unfortunately, I can only make it for a few hours this year, so am hoping to catch up with some musicians from the old days (its five years since I moved to Knaresborough) - no disrespect to the festival at all.

R

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Any Guest You like
Date: 20 May 14 - 07:44 PM

Come along Roger dear boy!

So just how far is it from Knaresborough to Beverley?

Especially when it involves something you claim to support and admire.

Tut!

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 21 May 14 - 06:05 AM

Unfortunately I now find that I am working in Leeds on the Saturday so won't get across to the Americana session after all:-(

R

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,beverley regular
Date: 27 May 14 - 06:53 AM

No ..not having a go at you dear boy..you are definatly a gentleman in evry sense of the word.

But some of teh so called "Fringe" all they are inrested in is their own little corner own little circle of smug little pals therir own little in jokes.

I have seen at first hand good decent musicians been frozen out ot these little cliques

.Not only at teh festival but on a regular basis..The Sun being a prime example.Whoever is running these so called "singarounds" Have a lot to learn in folk etiquette.

At last years Festival, the two big fat drunken buffoons who were in "charge" of the so called sessions in the Sun were an absolute disgrace.

Putting there own matwes up tiome after time, Of course this was when they werent lurching to the bar for teir umpteenthe free pint...!!!

This aint folk music..this aint inclusive this does not encourage
anyone to be part of it.


As an earlier Guet observed, festival fringe..Festival Cringe moor like.

I am going to buy me a ticket and go and listen to some real music by real people who actually CONTRIBUTE something to music

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,beverley regular
Date: 30 May 14 - 07:13 AM

No comeback Eh? gutless as well as smug....

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Vin2
Date: 30 May 14 - 06:07 PM

Anyone know of reasonably priced B&B's around Beverley ?

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: r.padgett
Date: 31 May 14 - 09:32 AM

We all are looking for audiences! Folk clubs are an endangered Bpecies albeit that many folk club singers are at Beverley festival whichhas always to my knowledge had booked guest and folk clubs and singarounds ~ I believe that I and John Booker ran the singaround in the Sun/Tap for nigh on 10 years and Jim McDonald, Les and Maggie and Mick McGarry and Beverley folk club residents have all contributed over the years and Derek Waudby recently!

The booked guests need a paying audience, and not all "punters" are singers/musicians etc and need to be entertained professionally (that is to a good standard) and so "flavour of the month" and up and comers as well as established acts are all "booked" (my opinion of course) hope Beverley folk fest has something for everyone!

Ray

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 31 May 14 - 02:07 PM

the one that I know has been used by festival goers in the past is the Eastgate Guest House. I no longer live in Beverley but here is their website:
http://www.eastgateguesthouse.com/

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,beverley regular
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 07:01 AM

One way of getting performers to the so called fringe..and injecting a bit of proffessionalism into otherwise dreary repetative amatuers and book singers, would for the paid artists to have it written into their conracts that they would attend singarounds and do a spot.


I believe Mick and Shanty Jack did this in The Hull Shanty Festival and Mick in The Beverley Shanty fest and Hull festival last year and it worked splendidly.

This would have course meant that some of the so called fringe people would have to get off their arses and approach Chris Wade..but there again you can't have everything you wish for?

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 07:30 AM

It would seem that some people, especially one's from Hull who are "Beverley Regulars", could fall out with their own shadow.

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 08:28 PM

Nothing new about asking booked guests to support singarounds.

Whitby Folk Week were doing this 30 years ago and it worked.

But that was in more enlightened times.

Jim Mageean stiil invites booked guests to his (WFW) shanty sessions and that also works.

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Joe Nicholson
Date: 03 Jun 14 - 06:32 AM

You can have a problem with booked guests when they are advertised in the programme as appearing at the singaround because you could find you have a lot of ther fans turn up just to here them and then go away after they have performed leaving you with a half empty room.

Joe Nicholson

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Jun 14 - 08:16 AM

A lot depends on choice of guests and the style of the event. It takes some very careful programming to get the balance right.

"Salting" an official festival singaround with some experienced performers is a good idea but if the object is to provide an experience for singers rather than a non participating audience then publicising their names probably isn't advisable.

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Last Guest but one
Date: 03 Jun 14 - 12:11 PM

WFW got the booked guests to run the singarounds.

Vis a vis Jim Mageean and his shanty sessions - they are always full all the time.

And do a great job raising money for the Lifeboat.

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Joe Nicholson
Date: 03 Jun 14 - 02:19 PM

Yes having guest running singarounds is fine but not a good idea to have guests being advertised in the programme and doing a spot then leaving is not a good idea.

Joe N.

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Jun 14 - 06:43 PM

Jim is a great personality

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Last Guest
Date: 03 Jun 14 - 08:00 PM

Agree with you Joe about guest in and out but of course WFW was never guilty of that error - back in the day.

But to get back to fat Bs on free ale, that never used to happen either, anywhere. A very recent phenomenum.

AND, Steve Heap used to run singarounds at Cleethorpes. How are the mighty risen?

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Jun 14 - 09:14 PM

If anyone wants to see a fat man on free ale running a sinaground, I am doing the Saturday song/session at Karen's birthday party at the GI in Rochester Kent on 28th June. Temperance songs may well be scarce.

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Jun 14 - 03:43 AM

up

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 Jun 14 - 03:57 AM

why?

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Sidewinder
Date: 09 Jun 14 - 07:27 AM

Any Moonbeams at Festival this year & if not, why?

Regards.

Sidewinder.

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Michael
Date: 09 Jun 14 - 09:12 AM

Moonbeams at Beverley:


http://www.beverleyfestival.com/programme/moonbeams-sessions.html

Oops! It didn't go blue but you can copy and paste.

Mike

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,beverley regular
Date: 10 Jun 14 - 06:45 AM

Nothing wrong with EXPEERIANCEd people running singarounds and getting rewarded.

It is when they are ther just there for the beer and /or looking after their little cliques it gets objectionable.

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: r.padgett
Date: 10 Jun 14 - 01:20 PM

The payment of free beer etc to singaround hosts should be barred!

Payment in cash is the proper way as the workman should not be paid in "Tommy notes" whilst wife and bairns starve at 'ome!!

Payment in beer means that the pub will not show any payment and be written off in the books

The workman is due his share in money

Ray

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Sidewinder.
Date: 12 Jun 14 - 07:12 AM

Thanks Mike,
Unfortunately, I am a technophobe, and am still in the dark as to what is going on?

Regards.

Sidewinder.

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Michael
Date: 12 Jun 14 - 06:13 PM

Sidewinder; copy and paste the address into the blank space at the top of your screen in a new tab.

Mike

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 15 Jun 14 - 11:24 AM

Oooh Matron. Well Beverley Regular I am one of those Two Fat Drunken Bastards who run the singarounds in the Sun ....praise indeed. I am called Jim McDonald (although I post under the obvious name of MC Fat). The thing is I haven't a clue who your are apart from you vitriolic character assasination of moi. In point of fact I don't believe me or Chris Mullins were drunk. We did partake of some sherbits but not incapable. As for failing to run it properly then I would dispute that also. You see in my 40 YEARS of experience I have run singarounds and sessions throughout the country and I am frEquently rebooked (so obviously those organisers must disagree with your view) pride my self of incusion and not simply putting pals on(so obviously organisers must disagree with your view on that too). Running a session in an open pub is difficult because not ALL the people are there for the music. I will end by asking what your experience of running such events are and suggest that if as suspect you couldn't run a bath then you should politely shut your gob you self opinionated prat.

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 15 Jun 14 - 11:28 AM

I would also like to say I have been going to most of the Festivals at Beverley runninbg singarounds folk clubs and MC'ing concert. I know Chris Wade very well and she is good organiser but has wanted to move the Festival away from the town for year's and has now got her way. She should beware though look at what has happened to Shepley

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 16 Jun 14 - 05:47 AM

Chris Mullins the other Big Fat Drunk send his fraternal greeting too Beverley Regular and says he can't wait to shake you warmly by the throat

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: The DeanMeister
Date: 16 Jun 14 - 05:50 AM

Hear hear, Jim. Was always a good session in our day, eh? I challenge you to a duel for the hand of the fair Big Bird.... ;)

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 16 Jun 14 - 06:09 AM

Sure did Deano can you e-mail me on [e-mail]. I need to post something to you

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 16 Jun 14 - 07:19 AM

Mr Fat stepped in at little (make that no)notice to run the singaround in the Sun for the People's Voice Festival in 2002 when the festival proper took a break and the chaps we thought were going to run it didn't show.He has done so pretty much ever since.

He did a great job then and continues to do so.

R

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 16 Jun 14 - 07:57 AM

Aha ! A challenge for my liege Lord. Never fear sire your faithful old retainer will be at your side as in the past. We cannot have these knaves and harlots offering duels without defending old England and St George (and any other pub)with our full and overwhelming might. I shall polish the armour immediately.

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 16 Jun 14 - 10:56 AM

Although now residing in foreign lands (the North Riding), I still like to keep an eye on my fiefdom to see that all is well.

Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: The DeanMeister
Date: 16 Jun 14 - 12:14 PM

Fighting talk, Raggy. I have some trusty new retainers in the Channel Islands to keep you in check :)