Subject: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: Bobert Date: 03 Jul 11 - 05:33 PM Well, I'm sure my UK friends won't be celebrating and the Northern neighbors for the most part are in "ho hum" mode but for *US* Yanks the 4th of July is upon *US* so... ...make it happy and safe... BTW, whatz ya'll doin' to celebrate??? B~ |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: Ebbie Date: 03 Jul 11 - 06:12 PM There is a fascinating article in the current Smithsonian magazine, Bobert. Neutral in tone and informative about how the actual physical war began. What will I be doing? Watching the parade in the morning and going to an annual backyard party at two friends' house, complete with music. |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: Jack the Sailor Date: 03 Jul 11 - 06:34 PM BBQ at our neighbors house. |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: Janie Date: 03 Jul 11 - 06:51 PM Well, I was gonna go into work tomorrow for some uninterrupted time to shuffle paper, but the brakes went out on my car last night....so....if it doesn't get too stinking hot too soon, gonna work in the yard, clean off the carport and wash siding. Otherwise, will pay bills and clean out closets. big whoop. |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: Dave MacKenzie Date: 03 Jul 11 - 07:37 PM "I'm sure my UK friends won't be celebrating" Why not? Seriously though, I'll be going Nordic Walking, come home have a shower, breakfast, do the last load of laundry, watch the highlights of the last game of the CFL week 1, and then in the afternoon.... |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: Bobert Date: 03 Jul 11 - 09:16 PM Sounds boring, Janie... Have Dani or someone bring you down fir a backyard cookout!!! The pool is in great shape... Plus we'll have 18 other folks to party with... Thanks, Eb, for the info on the war... There's a guy on our local NPR on tomorrow who has written a book on how the civil war could have been avioded... Hope I catch it... B~ |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: Ebbie Date: 03 Jul 11 - 10:01 PM Beaubear, I took a leap and missed. You spoke the keywords: Northern and Yank and I sprang. The article is about the War between the States, not the Revolutionary one. But fascinating, nonetheless. :) |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: Jack the Sailor Date: 04 Jul 11 - 02:16 AM "how the civil war could have been avioded." Don't break with the empire in the first place? The need of July 4th would be avoided that way too. |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: gnu Date: 04 Jul 11 - 07:20 AM A good day to all my neighbours to the south. |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: Nigel Parsons Date: 04 Jul 11 - 07:45 AM Independence day was almost mentioned on Radio2 yesterday. Steve Wright (Sunday Love Songs) announced: "Tomorrow in America it will be the 4th of July". I thought, it will be here too! He could have added something to explain his announcement! |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: Nigel Parsons Date: 04 Jul 11 - 07:46 AM 235 years and counting. Happy birthday U.S.A. |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: Will Fly Date: 04 Jul 11 - 08:46 AM Happy Independence Day to y'all over there. But wait... shock! horror! Wikipedia says: Historians have long disputed whether Congress actually signed the Declaration of Independence on July 4, even though Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, and Benjamin Franklin all later wrote that they had signed it on that day. Most historians have concluded that the Declaration was signed nearly a month after its adoption, on August 2, 1776, and not on July 4 as is commonly believed. Oh no! :-) |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 04 Jul 11 - 09:15 AM Hi, Will. We've known for a long time that it didn't get signed all at once. On Saturday we took a friend and her grandson out for dinner. The grandson is a 13 and young even for 13. He lives on a 10-acre farm and goes to a small school with kindergarten through grade 12 in one building. We took them into downtown Kansas City KS and saw something of the old Croatian heritage there. Then we drove to the bluff above the Missouri River valley. He saw the Big Muddy and asked, "What lake is that?" We had a nice time identifying skyscrapers, industrial buildings and natural features, and I think by the time we got done, he had learned something about his country. Today I believe we'll grill something on the grill and then go see some fireworks. |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: DrugCrazed Date: 04 Jul 11 - 10:00 AM Groucho: Where was the declaration of independence signed? Chico: At the bottom! I'll be celebrating it the way I usually do. Singing Ten Finger Johnny again and again. If there were a sing around I'd take it there. We brits have to celebrate it too you know ;) |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: katlaughing Date: 04 Jul 11 - 11:31 AM There are some delightful, old-fashioned piano renditions of patriotic songs at amclassical.com including the 1816 piano version of The Star-Spangled Banner. Kind of neat to hear these. Happy Independence Day! |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: katlaughing Date: 04 Jul 11 - 11:46 AM More patriotic music, with extensive info and sheet music, as well as mp3s, at the Library of Congress Enjoy! |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: Donuel Date: 04 Jul 11 - 11:57 AM Thank you France, without your help we never would have overcome the British. |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: Mrrzy Date: 04 Jul 11 - 12:02 PM Well, we got a big storm so no electricity which meant no water either, because of the well, so we played Fictionary by candlelight and it was a bunch of fun! New words that I remember include fleam, schelm, rampion, and somebody picked hoyden but I already knew that one... and these are folks who do their own fireworks, too. Today I might make another cookout but it's supposed to storm again so the city will probably not do its own fireworks tonight... what a shame. |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: GUEST,mg Date: 04 Jul 11 - 01:06 PM here is a song for freedom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl7MYTTHUFg&feature=related |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: alanabit Date: 04 Jul 11 - 01:40 PM Hope you are all enjoying your day's holiday in any event! |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: GUEST,999 Date: 04 Jul 11 - 04:16 PM Best to y'all. |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: AllisonA(Animaterra) Date: 04 Jul 11 - 05:22 PM Here in New England it's been the most perfect day for a traditional Independence Day picnic. I went to Tolman Pond, where the usual mixture of summer folk and townies hung out, eating and drinking and taking part in a crazy game that was an amalgam of several field-day games- you paddled your canoe around the dock, raced to the water-balloon toss, scrambled to tie yourself to your partner for a 3-legged race around the barn, then sang the Star Spangled Banner with your team as fast as you could- My job was to help the SSB singers, so while we waited, our impromptu chorus sang "Do Lord, Remember Me," "I'll Fly Away" etc. in terrific harmonies (most of us had never sung together before)... Finally, the triumphal parade: bicycles, strollers, a couple of good old cars, a couple of motorcycles, and a tractor. Down the road along the pond, past the picnickers and back again. We lingered awhile longer, watching the ominous clouds drift nearby with a few stern rumbles, then gently drift away, to do no harm. As I said, a perfect day. |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: LadyJean Date: 04 Jul 11 - 11:52 PM We had rain in Western Pennsylvania, where Washington started the Seven Years War, which got the whole thing going. I'm maybe an hour away from the site of GWs first command. (And it's a great drive if you're ever out this way.) I just sent off the last set of captions for the cartoon book a friend of mine and I do. Once again, I bless our glorious American libel laws. It takes real work in this country to libel somebody. A couple of weeks ago, I had a piece in the Post-Gazette. Afterwards some nut accused me of comparing Snookie of Jersey Shore fame to Hitler. I didn't, of course. But even if I did, Snookie couldn't sue me. Well she could, this is the U.S.A. after all. But any judge would throw the case out of court. |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: Alice Date: 04 Jul 11 - 11:58 PM About 20 minutes ago, as the sun was setting, I could see the pink and turquoise glow of a Maxfield Parrish style sunset out my window. I went into the street and took these 4 photos of the clouds above the Bridger mountains. I enjoy this more than fireworks. Photos of sunset clouds, July 4, 2011, Bozeman, Montana |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: Ron Davies Date: 05 Jul 11 - 12:26 AM And of course it was supposed to be the glorious 2nd of July, according to John Adams. |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: Ron Davies Date: 05 Jul 11 - 12:34 AM Also, no surprise they all didn't sign it at the same time---it was a real gamble, with their lives. Not easy to avoid the charge of treason. But of course the entire war was also by no means universally popular in the UK--for many good reasons. Not even the Howe brothers were enthusiastic. |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: Ron Davies Date: 05 Jul 11 - 12:38 AM American Revolution has been called Britain's Vietnam--with good reason in some aspects. Of course the US did not want Vietnam as a colony, but domestic attitudes, geography etc show parallels. |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: ChanteyLass Date: 05 Jul 11 - 02:44 AM When my childhood English penpal visited me here in RI in 1970 (we were in our very early 20s), to my surprise she was eager to go to the Bristol, RI, Independence Day Parade (oldest continuous in the US--though someone here will probably dispute that--and maybe it's just an RI legend, but I hope not). She enjoyed it, talked about it for the rest of her visit, and still remembers it fondly. I guess when your country has engaged in so many wars, you learn to get over it. After all, US tourists are traveling to Vietnam, and my parents took me on a trip to Europe in '69 to visit some of the countries where my dad had fought in WW II, and he enjoyed beer gardens in Germany but almost lost it when he had to take me to a POLICE STATION for first aid. (My mom offered to take me alone because Dad was trembling--GERMANS IN UNIFORMS--, but he had to be "the man of his family" in spite of his fears--and God bless both of them, and Dad felt better when we walked out of the police station). Anyway, back to my English penpal: she encouraged her son to study German, and when he did, she and her Aussie husband took adult classes in that language. Yet I have heard her make remarks that I consider anti-French, perhaps resulting from the long history of animosity between the two nations. Maybe I'm overly sensitive, because I'm partly French-Canadian. After a weekend at New Bedford, MA, Summerfest, I spent the 4th at Mystic Seaport which celebrates in an 1876 way with role-players on the grounds and patriotic ceremonies appropriate for that time. It includes a parade around the Village Green that includes children who wish to participate. Chris Moyles, there may not be a monument to JFK in the UK, but I distinctly remember a memorial to him at Runnymede. I saw it when my parents and I went there during that '69 trip, which is also when I first met my penpal. |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: GUEST,Patsy Date: 05 Jul 11 - 08:14 AM Happy belated Independence Day wishes. |
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Independence Day... From: GUEST,Skivee Guesting in Date: 05 Jul 11 - 02:21 PM My pal Myron and I sang sea songs and one notable locally penned patriotic ballad, "The Defense Of Fort McHenry", by one F.S. Key. We did 3 of the four verses, omitting the not very good third. We were on the schooner Woodwind on the Chesapeake bay. This is the boat being piloted by Christopher Walken in "The Wedding Crashers". Fireworks, song, beer and pleasant company. A good time was had by many. |