BS: don't befriend your food in Russia

Subject: BS: don't befriend your food in Russia
From: Jack Campin
Date: 06 Feb 16 - 06:26 PM

You couldn't make it up...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/05/russian-lawyers-accuse-unlikely-animal-chums-of-gay-propaganda

Subject: RE: BS: don't befriend your food in Russia
From: Greg F.
Date: 06 Feb 16 - 07:22 PM

I'm surprised it didn't happen in Alabama first. Maybe Ted Cruz can find something similar to rave about.

Subject: RE: BS: don't befriend your food in Russia
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 06 Feb 16 - 10:57 PM

I guess lawyer Krestyanov was so busy contemplating the immorality of a male tiger and a male goat living together that he failed to notice the hundred-monkey circle jerk going on over on Monkey Island.

Subject: RE: BS: don't befriend your food in Russia
From: GUEST,#
Date: 07 Feb 16 - 09:33 AM

I hope the person who thought this up leaves his cranial kingdom to medical science. An autopsy would probably require a BSL-4 facility just to be on the safe side, but no guts no glory. Sheesh.

Subject: RE: BS: don't befriend your food in Russia
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Feb 16 - 09:56 AM

It goes to show you that in a "civilization that provides food and shelter all things non violent are possible".

Subject: RE: BS: don't befriend your food in Russia
From: gnu
Date: 07 Feb 16 - 01:53 PM

That's sick shit man! Fuckin a goat? Sheep, yeah, I can get behind that, but, a GOAT? That's gross.

Subject: RE: BS: don't befriend your food in Russia
From: GUEST,#
Date: 07 Feb 16 - 01:56 PM

"Sheep, yeah, I can get behind that . . ."

gnu, you'd have to get behind it . . .

Subject: RE: BS: don't befriend your food in Russia
From: gnu
Date: 07 Feb 16 - 02:39 PM

#... apparently, you have never read the Karma Suitsya. Well, neither have I, really. I just look at the pics. Now, WHERE are my hip waders?

Subject: RE: BS: don't befriend your food in Russia
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 08 Feb 16 - 09:51 AM

Where's "Gay" come into it? There is nothing in the short
article at that site specifically about any sexual activities between the two animals. Yes, it's two males sharing the living quarters, but
that doesn't rise--or sink, if that's the way you prefer to think of it--to homosexual relations.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: BS: don't befriend your food in Russia
From: GUEST,#
Date: 08 Feb 16 - 12:46 PM

He is one very strange lawyer.

Subject: RE: BS: don't befriend your food in Russia
From: akenaton
Date: 08 Feb 16 - 12:58 PM

I agree with Uncle Dave O. I wonder why Mr Campin printed it?

Subject: RE: BS: don't befriend your food in Russia
From: Joe_F
Date: 08 Feb 16 - 02:59 PM

There used to be a rockclimbers' magazine called The Vulgarian Digest, and it once ran a mock advice column, which contained the following:

Dear Appie:
Is it best to approach a sheep from behind, or to roll it over and lay on top?
Deprived

Dear Depraved: Is the sheep male or female? And for that matter are you male or female?

Subject: RE: BS: don't befriend your food in Russia
From: Jack Campin
Date: 08 Feb 16 - 05:47 PM

It would need somebody who knows Russian to check, but it did occur to me before posting that Mr Krestyanov might be extracting the michael from the likes of Putin and "akenaton". If his Facebook page mentions membership of a clown appreciation society or a hobby of dubbing Monty Python sketches into Russian for YouTube, that might confirm.

Subject: RE: BS: don't befriend your food in Russia
From: akenaton
Date: 09 Feb 16 - 11:23 AM

Sorry Jack, you've lost me there...have you been drinking what Jim's been drinking? :0)

I do agree with President Putin regarding homosexual "marriage" and his stance on Syria, but zoo's and Monty Python? I leave them to the conspiracy theorists.

Still don't understand why you started this thread.

Subject: RE: BS: don't befriend your food in Russia
From: gillymor
Date: 09 Feb 16 - 11:42 AM

Can you back that up with GST statistics?

Subject: RE: BS: don't befriend your food in Russia
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 09 Feb 16 - 12:52 PM

No such thing as homosexual "marriage" you disgusting freak, it's marriage. I'm married to my husband and our marriage is the same as anybody else's' in Scotland.

You agree with Putin? You think I should be locked up for existing? You sick bastard. I'm married, you are married. No difference whatsoever, cretin.



I like this story. I, like Jack wondered if this was an ironic send up by the solicitor at first. It serves the purpose of pointing out the ludicrous position of bigots and self righteous fools, whilst giving a good laugh at the same time. We keep forgetting that not everywhere is as enlightened as Scotland, where equality is seen by respectable people as paramount. There are still some countries, let alone sad sick puppies who would wish to judge others, and judging these two animals puts their pathetic position into perspective.

Pointing and laughing, it's how we do things in Argyll.

Subject: RE: BS: don't befriend your food in Russia
From: Jack Campin
Date: 09 Feb 16 - 07:32 PM

Meanwhile, Michigan twins with Siberia:

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/johnwright/michigan_senate_passes_bill_saying_sodomy_is_a_felony

I am not sure how much more bogglement my mind can take.

Subject: RE: BS: don't befriend your food in Russia
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 09 Feb 16 - 10:01 PM

Musket, I am with you on the desirability of marriage for same sex couples, and wish you and your spouse every happiness.
We differ in that I do not hate all those who disagree.

You clearly hate Ake for not sharing our view, but then you must also hate the vast majority of the whole human race!
It is not healthy to be so filled with so much hate for so many people.

You will not live to see even a small majority agree with us.
Ideas are changing, but slowly, and it is foolish to expect everyone to change on the same day that you did.

Peter Tatchell, like you, is a gay man and a prominent and outspoken advocate of same sex marriage.
He has recently come out in support of the Belfast baker who refused to make a cake bearing a supporting slogan, accepting that it is a legitimate and widely held belief.

I urge you to be equally tolerant and less hateful.

Subject: RE: BS: don't befriend your food in Russia
From: gillymor
Date: 09 Feb 16 - 10:57 PM

Have you been living in a bubble, Keith?

Pew Research Center

Subject: RE: BS: don't befriend your food in Russia
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 10 Feb 16 - 03:17 AM

I disagree with Tatchell on this. But there again, I disagree with his "in your face" attitude towards his sexuality in general. He did a service to society in "outing" hypocrisy but that doesn't make him right. He says that equality includes the right to their (bakers) opinion and indeed it does. I doubt however that it goes as far as discriminating when licenced to supply goods or services. On that, Tatchell ignores the very legislation that promotes what he has been fighting for over the years. Strange.

I don't agree with you either Keith. You don't have to wait for society to catch up, you merely have to point out a) bigotry and b) where society has at last recognised that we are all equal.

I refute your claim regarding "the vast majority of the human race." If this were so, then the leaders of organised religions would not be so prominent in persecuting people. That they are so animated reflects both the "tolerance" and widespread occurrence of being gay.

Our own state superstition, the Anglican Church is a case in point. Funnily enough I don't have the figures for here in Scotland but Church of England Sunday attendances are down to 760,000 out of a population of 65,000,000. (Source -article in today's Guardian.) Of those, they include you, the vast majority just like you and indeed a huge number of gay people who buy into religion, on the basis that if you can ignore the Old Testament crap about whores and slaves you can ignore the homophobic bits too. When people choose to ignore slavery but quote homophobia as the word of their Lord, they have no Lord. Just a twisted evil mind.

The fascination of the subject by Putin (whose photo shoots make him a gay icon till he opens his mouth anyway) just serves to note the huge number of gay people in his own borders.

Some goats like the company of felines with big teeth. Some women like men who are hairy, some men like women with ginger hair, some men prefer other men, some women prefer other women. None can change their preference by "therapy" so best to moderate out hatred as it is plain fucking upsetting.

Subject: RE: BS: don't befriend your food in Russia
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 10 Feb 16 - 04:52 AM

Everyone I know within Church of England agrees with us on ss marriage, but you must have seen how the Anglican Church in Africa and Asia just rejects it out of hand.
There is no sign of enlightenment on this in the Near or Middle East, Eastern Europe, Russia, Asia or Africa.

I refute your claim regarding "the vast majority of the human race."
Then it is you living in a bubble!
Just a few sparsely populated Western countries are a tiny minority of the whole human race.

No point in hating them all.
No point in hating anyone over this.

Tatchell,
"In my view, it is an infringement of freedom to require businesses to aid the promotion of ideas to which they conscientiously object. Discrimination against people should be unlawful, but not against ideas."
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/01/gay-cake-row-i-changed-my-mind-ashers-bakery-freedom-of-conscience-religion

Subject: RE: BS: don't befriend your food in Russia
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 10 Feb 16 - 05:28 AM

You know, you can agree with Tatchell and dismiss what you think he is saying Keith. He speaks of the promotion, whilst the bakers were refusing to provide a service that is willingly supplied to others. (Including in their case, supplying celebration cakes for terrorists released under the Good Friday agreement.)

I shudder to think that my private life should be "promoted." Accepted as normal in every sense is both the least and most required. Promotion exists until equality is assured but after that is counter productive.

The Church of England by the way voted to see gay people as second class citizens. If Welby disagrees with the African travesties of bishops, his resignation should have followed the international meeting last month. Don't say Church of England this and that when the resolution of the Anglican community is to carry on persecuting people for existing and castigating a gay American bishop. Meanwhile, the last high profile specimen in a dog collar up here (other lot) is at The Vatican, hiding from the police and PF. Luckily, the SNP are too mature, reasoned and normal to have listened to him and passed equality legislation despite both main churches opposition

Perhaps he should, like the goat, get into a cage with a big cat? Some of his predecessors seemed rather apt at doing so at the Roman circuses.

Subject: RE: BS: don't befriend your food in Russia
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 10 Feb 16 - 05:39 AM

I agree with all that.
I am only saying that if you must hate everyone who is not yet ready to accept ss marriage, you are hating most of the human race.

Nothing to be gained from that.
They can not all be "bigots."

Subject: RE: BS: don't befriend your food in Russia
From: akenaton
Date: 10 Feb 16 - 02:16 PM

Well I'm a builder, I know hundreds of people personally through my work, most on first name terms.

In this area I would place rather a large bet on at least two thirds being opposed....there are many middle aged and elderly people here, but most have a higher than normal educational achievement, the people who seem to be in favour are the younger facebook generation, most of whom have no idea about the issue, think it is just the right thing to do and when forced to face the negative facts, just look blankly at you.
The ignorance of todays youth, raised on a diet of liberal media nonsense, has to be seen to be believed.

Subject: RE: BS: don't befriend your food in Russia
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 10 Feb 16 - 02:49 PM

Nobody is opposed to the law, only criminals. Some people (a minority here in Argyll by our experience) don't understand. Ok. I don't see the fascination with women in that sense but I don't go on Mudcat saying Akenaton is in an open marriage and he and his wife have multiple sexual partners or try to equate his personal life to that of paedophiles. Any idea how sickening that is? Mudcat should introduce moderation, get sone moderators perhaps?

I don't hate anyone Keith. But be fucked if I am willing to put up with incitement to hatred in Mudcat. Despite the poor quality of moderation these days, it is used by many people, and here in civilised countries, we either warn people that they may read distressing material or we ensure it is adequately censored.

Subject: RE: BS: don't befriend your food in Russia
From: akenaton
Date: 10 Feb 16 - 03:27 PM

I neither know nor want to know anything about your personal life, I have never commented on you personally.

Any stats that I have posted in defence of my opposition to homosexual "marriage" have been concerning male homosexuals as a demographic, that is how the CDC and PHE fact sheets are composed.

Subject: RE: BS: don't befriend your food in Russia
From: akenaton
Date: 10 Feb 16 - 03:32 PM

Perhaps you will have noted that I managed to construct my post without the use of words like "bastard", "cretin", or "disgusting freak", although your behaviour on these pages may warrant them.

Read and learn.