Subject: Parody of Willie McBride From: GUEST,Mike Ireland Date: 26 Jun 00 - 04:17 PM Hi I'm looking for a song by Crawford Howard, that is a parody of Green Fields of France. I've searched mudcat and found the letter to Eric from Willie McBride. Once a long time ago I thought the second parody was in the lyric list. This is the one were a singer in a pub is asked for the Green fields of France and he says he dosn't know it (as he is fed up singing it) and the drunk who asked for the song starts to sing it etc. Thanks Mike |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Parody of Willie McBride From: Pene Azul Date: 26 Jun 00 - 04:45 PM Is this it? NO MAN'S LAND (3) PA |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Parody of Willie McBride From: MartinRyan Date: 26 Jun 00 - 07:56 PM That's the Crawford Howard version alright - as I sing it! There's another verse and a chorus sometimes used - but I find it hard to make them work. A search on the forum shoiuld show them up - I think someone filled them in a while back. Regards |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Parody of Willie McBride From: GUEST,Trish Date: 27 Jun 00 - 07:46 PM I've heard Tich Frier sing that in Edinburgh - at least, I think it was Tich. Anyone know (in similar vein) "He boogered up the Fields of Athenry??" |
Subject: Lyr Add: NO MAN'S LAND (Eric Bogle) From: GUEST,Richie Date: 28 Jun 00 - 10:14 AM NO MAN'S LAND Words and music by Eric Bogle As recorded by Eric Bogle on "Scraps of Paper" (1983)
Well, how d'you do, Private Willie McBride?
CHORUS: Did they beat the drum slowly? Did they sound the fife lowly?
And did you leave a wife or a sweetheart behind?
Well, the sun's shining now on these green fields of France.
And I can't help but wonder now, Willie McBride,
Did the bugles sing The Last Post in chorus? HTML line breaks added, and title corrected. --JoeClone, 17-Sep-02. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Parody of Willie McBride From: GUEST,John Hill Date: 28 Jun 00 - 12:37 PM How many times must it be said that this song is not called "The green fields of france" its called "No man's land" you only have to look at Eric Bogle's record to see that. Why on earth can't people call things by their proper names. This is a copyright song... it doesn't have another name.
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Parody of Willie McBride From: Wolfgang Date: 28 Jun 00 - 01:05 PM John Hill writes: "making a parody of (a song) is a breach of copyright and is illegal without permission of the owner". That's new to me. Is that really true? Wolfgang |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Parody of Willie McBride From: Liz the Squeak Date: 28 Jun 00 - 06:09 PM No. Recording a parody to the real tune without asking the authors permission to use that tune is an offence. Pubishing a parody is not (unless its a really BAD parody), because you have changed the content and thus made it your own. There are people who get snotty about others parodying their work, but can do nothing about it unless the parodier wants to record it. An example is this; Ralph McTell wrote 'Streets of London'. A group of football supporters 'borrowed' the song and changed one word - the name of the city - and sang it on the terraces. Ralph can do nothing whilst 2000 fans sing it on the terraces, BUT as soon as a TV programme wants to record it for part of a quiz question ('They think it's all over', for the 'what comes next' round) he can threaten legal action and get the changed word bleeped out or prevent it from being aired at all. OK? Of course, it may be different in the US, things usually are..... LTS |
Subject: Lyr Add: NOBODY'S MOGGY LANDS From: Branwen23 Date: 28 Jun 00 - 07:30 PM I know a parody to that song... I don't know if it's the one you're thinking of... It's called "NOBODY'S MOGGY LANDS" It's about a cat named Moggy who's become roadkill... It starts: Well, how are you doing, old Moggy the Cat? I noticed you lying where I almost sat. Do you mind if I push you on o'er to the side? I've been walking all day on the road where you died. Chorus: Did he honk the horn loudly, did you stand your ground proudly? Did a shadow pass o'er you as the truck mowed you down? Did you die with a yowl and a big fuss? Did the birds come pick at your carcass? I have the rest of the lyrics... If this is the one you're thinking of, I can post the complete version. Branwen. --- PA --- |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Parody of Willie McBride From: GUEST Date: 29 Jun 00 - 06:59 AM Hello again When I said "making" a parody I meant making a recording of it not just singing one. Its certainly something to be careful of... the original writer could easily take umbridge especially if it pokes fun at the original song. I heard the parody in question sung on monday by Ken Kenny (Enda Kenny's brother) he said that it was written by Finbar Boyne, not a name I'm familliar with... but neither are those attributed to the parody in the DT |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Parody of Willie McBride From: MartinRyan Date: 29 Jun 00 - 10:43 AM Jon I suspect it was Finbar Boyle your contact referred to - but in fact it was Crawford Howard who wrote the parody. Regards |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Parody of Willie McBride From: GUEST,John Hill Date: 29 Jun 00 - 11:26 AM I'm sure you are right Martin. Like I said he isn't known to me. My apologies if he reads this. I first heard it last year when someone did it at a singaround at Cleethorpes folk festival... I thought it was great. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Parody of Willie McBride From: GUEST,Mike Ireland Date: 29 Jun 00 - 06:15 PM Hi Thanks everyone. Pene Azul got it in one. I'd love to see the rest of 'Nobodys Moggy land' by Branwen23 if you wouldn't mind posting it. Thanks again Mike |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Parody of Willie McBride From: GUEST,Woozel Date: 29 Jun 00 - 06:25 PM The parody by Bronwen23 sounds fun - can you post the rest of it please? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Parody of Willie McBride From: GUEST,John Hill Date: 29 Jun 00 - 06:28 PM Reading though the lyrics to the parody in the DT it says that "on the brew" is Belfast slang for on the dole. Thats not true...its Scottish. Eric Bogle uses the expression in one of his songs and says its Scottish slang on the record sleeve. So I'm sure thats where the person who did wrote the parody must have got it from. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Parody of Willie McBride From: MartinRyan Date: 30 Jun 00 - 03:14 AM John Just because it's one, doesn't mean its not the other as well! Its no surprise that Belfast slang would include some Scots. I think the phrase is basically a corruption of "on the borough" i.e. dependant on locally paid unemployment assistance! Regards |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Parody of Willie McBride From: Wolfgang Date: 30 Jun 00 - 03:21 AM The parody 'Nobody's Moggy's Land' is in the DT database (upper right corner search window)! Wolfgang |
Subject: Lyr Add: NOBODY'S MOGGY LANDS From: Branwen23 Date: 30 Jun 00 - 10:55 AM Here you go:
NOBODY'S MOGGY LANDS
Well, how are you doing, old Moggy the Cat?
You've been squashed like a butterfly pressed between glass.
CHORUS: Did he honk the horn loudly?
The ground squirrels and mice all seem happy today.
The robins and sparrows all join in the feast (Chorus)
Old Moggy the Cat, I sure wish I knew why
Well, if that is true, this is life number ten, (Chorus) HTML line breaks added, and title corrected. --JoeClone, 17-Sep-02. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Parody of Willie McBride From: GUEST,dan evergreen Date: 30 Jun 00 - 07:09 PM A parody of a song about a youth who died in the Great War, the horrors of which are beyond our imaginations, now that's a high form of humor. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Parody of Willie McBride From: Amergin Date: 30 Jun 00 - 08:54 PM I sure find it very funny. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Parody of Willie McBride From: Alan of Australia Date: 01 Jul 00 - 09:02 PM G'day, Interesting about "Nobody's Moggy-Land". Bogle wrote a song called "Nobody's Moggie Now", different words & tune but the same story.
Cheers, |
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