Guitar Nerds-New String Winder by Shubb

Subject: Guitar Nerds-New String Winder by Shubb
From: Justa Picker
Date: 02 Sep 01 - 07:46 PM

Happened to be perusing Frank Ford's website and noticed a glowing review on the new shubb string winder (link to Ford's review also on the Shubb page). Of course, I couldn't help myself and ordered 2 of them through Shubb's website.

Thought the other guitar nerds here might want to have a look-see...and maybe check one out as well. (The two I have are old-school design and wobble when I'm restringing, so I figured this was an opportunity staring me in the face.) :-)

Subject: RE: Guitar Nerds-New String Winder by Shubb
From: Justa Picker
Date: 02 Sep 01 - 07:47 PM

(By the way, I don't hold shares or any financial interest in the Shubb company.)

Subject: RE: Guitar Nerds-New String Winder by Shubb
From: marty D
Date: 02 Sep 01 - 08:53 PM

Looks good. Just one MORE thing to buy! Thanks Justa.

marty

Subject: RE: Guitar Nerds-New String Winder by Shubb
From: GUEST,Steve Parkes
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 06:55 AM

And it looks as though it would be very good for 12-strings and mandolins, where the tuners are much closer together-your bog-standard winder catches on the adjacent pegs, but this one seems to have a smaller throw, and the handle is further away from the peg socket. When I've finished buying new strings, I'll have to see if I've got any dosh left!

Steve

Subject: RE: Guitar Nerds-New String Winder by Shubb
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 03:08 PM

I don't really see much use to the thing... About the only time I use the one that I have is not for winding our unwinding... I use the notch in it for pulling bridge pins... I find it much easier, and much more 'organic' to wind by hand...

It helps too if you have decent machine heads, with a good gear ratio, so you don't have to wind and wind and wind...

Subject: RE: Guitar Nerds-New String Winder by Shubb
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 03:30 AM

Everybody needs a string winder, CH! It saves a lot of time, it really does; not to mention wrist-ache: repested twisting is not a natural action, unlike the side-to-side action used in .. er, in .. in strumming, say. RSI or carpal tunnel syndrome would have a devastating effect on your playing, wouldn't it? One of the reasons people don't change strings often enough is the tedium of unwinding and rewinding six (or eight or twelve) times for half an hour or more. (And the cost, of course ..)

Steve

Subject: RE: Guitar Nerds-New String Winder by Shubb
From: Justa Picker
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 02:09 PM

(refresh)

Subject: RE: Guitar Nerds-New String Winder by Shubb
From: Benjamin
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 04:57 PM

Wow, that winder is much nicer, and more attractive, than the old orange one sitting somewhere in my bedroom. I'll have to get a couple myself sometime. Thanks JP!

Subject: RE: Guitar Nerds-New String Winder by Shubb
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 06:00 PM

Half an hour to change strings???

Not on your life... I can do both guitars in that time, and clean the bodies, and check and change all my batteries in that time...

I expect that the people who really feel they NEED a peg winder are putting way too many wraps on.. I oput 2, maybe 3 myself, and that's plenty...

;-)

Subject: RE: Guitar Nerds-New String Winder by Shubb
From: Justa Picker
Date: 29 Sep 01 - 04:25 PM

Got mine last week.
Very nice indeed and an elegant design. Blows away anything I've used prior.

Subject: RE: Guitar Nerds-New String Winder by Shubb
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 29 Sep 01 - 05:17 PM

A Keyser capo is what I use for getting out the pegs. A string winder is something I've somehow never felt the need for. There somehow seems something decadent about it, but not exciting decadent.

Anyway, I know if I used one I'd get carried away and break overwind it and break the string. Now if they could come up with one with some kind of built in torque control that'd stop me doing thatI might go for it. Or better still some combination winder and tuner, so you could set the note and it'd automatically light up when you got there.

Subject: RE: Guitar Nerds-New String Winder by Shubb
From: Mark Clark
Date: 30 Sep 01 - 05:46 PM

J.P., I just noticed this thread. Thanks! It looks like Shubb has done it again. I'll have to pick up a couple. Everything Shubb makes seems to be made to a higher standard than the competition and usually a much better design.

I've used a string winder for thirty years or so and wouldn't be without one. I have often changed an entire set of strings in under five minutes. When you're working there are times when you must change a set very quickly.

I confess I don't understand the concept of prying out the bridge pins. Once the tension is loosened on a string, I just push the string into the bridge a half inch or so and the pin is loose enough to lift out. If I turned the guitar upside down, it would fall out. The ball of the string should create the mechanical lock keeping string and pin in position. I don't think a pin should be forced into the bridge. Couldn't one split a bridge that way?

I know quite a few people who use Keyser capos. They seem to play out of tune a lot. The ones who don't play out of tune spend a lot of time tuning.

      - Mark

Subject: RE: Guitar Nerds-New String Winder by Shubb
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 30 Sep 01 - 06:08 PM

If a Keyser capo puts them out of tune I reckon they've got the guitar set up wrong.

Subject: RE: Guitar Nerds-New String Winder by Shubb
From: Bernard
Date: 30 Sep 01 - 06:51 PM

I'm with you on the bridge pins, Mark - that's exactly what I do. The pin is only there to deflect the ball-end. When fitting a new string I push the ball down the hole with the pin until I feel the string stop, then push the pin gently until it stops. I then pull gently on the string whilst making off the other end and bringing it up to tension. Bloody 'ell - don't I sound pompous!!

As to winders, I have a couple very similar in design to the Shubb that I bought over twenty years ago. They have a clever cross pattern in the 'cup' which suits both guitar machines and mandolin machines (usually smaller).

I use a winder on my 12-string, mandolin and classical guitars with 'box' heads, but my six string and bass both have split shaft machines, which are very quick and easy for string changes.

I've always preferred Jim Dunlop capos (the nylon webbing/lever type), which work equally well on 6 and 12 string guitars, with no tuning problems. Just a matter of what you get used to, I suppose.