BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?

Subject: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 10:19 AM

You can see them stood on eletric pielons but dont get eletricuted, why not?

if a man touch it, he get burned, and die, [i saw it on telly],
and in america a big bear climbed up an eletrical pole, and touched the wires and get eletriucted, i saw this on telly, we got sky satelite tv at work, and it shows stuff like this.
and some people tried to save it, but it fell off.

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: MMario
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 10:20 AM

The birds aren't grounded - so the current does not pass through them.

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 10:21 AM

they should put things on the pole , to stop bears clinmbing up it.

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 10:22 AM

but bears not grounded either, sho how bear got eletricuted then?

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: MMario
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 10:27 AM

the bear WAS grounded through the pole. The birds touch only the wires. If they touch the wire and the tower at the same time (very rare) then they are birdie fricassee.

Squirrels tend to hop/leap - so rarely touch both the tower and the wires at the same time, though they do so more often then birds - when they do they get zapped.

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 10:31 AM

oh.

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 10:32 AM

They are well hen-sulated...

:D

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: GUEST,Mingulay
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 10:32 AM

Isn't it nice to know that he's back on line. Spelin bordrin on geenuis. I feel quite at home.

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 10:41 AM

Why didn't they shoot the bear in the head to stop it getting electrocuted? Oh!

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: GUEST,Mingulay
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 11:00 AM

Shooting bears and leaving them up telegraph poles is illegal and falls foul of the anti-litter laws. Do sheep or whelks ever get electrocuted up poles?

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: s&r
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 11:18 AM

If a bird had one leg on the wire and the other on the floor, it would get fried. For this reason ostriches and emus lost the power of flight (survival of the fittest - the flying ones got fried stepping down from high voltage perches)

Stu

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 11:19 AM

I think you should ask the Polish embassy about what happens to things when they get stuck up Poles.

Anyway jOhn, I thought you usually drank bears rather than putting them up Poles.

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 11:28 AM

Don't ever shoot a bear n the head-- it won't leave enough foam to coat the lip!

And how does a bear get up a phone pole? Doesn't it only pour downwards?

Does electrocution improve a bear? What about stoats?

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: GUEST,Mingulay
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 11:37 AM

What about stoats? (Looks round nervously in a furtive manner)

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 11:51 AM

'Nother thing, birds sit on INSULATED wires. Put one on an uninsulated wire and you have broiled birdie -- and this, too, sometimes happens when a bird perches on a place where the insulation is missing.

Bears climbing electric poles isn't much of a problem, j0hn. Only rarely do they come that close to people and people's things. Even if you wanted to hunt one you'd have to go way off in the woods and wilds.

Of course, a lady in the next town north of here (it's right across a street) looked outside one day about a week ago and saw a big "dog" eating one of her kittens. She was going to go out and chase it away when she saw the tail -- it was a cougar, a mountain lion, and had come into town and into her yard and killed two of her kittens for breakfast. She did NOT try to chase it away; she called the Fish and Game Department instead, but it was gone when they got there. They said that it was just a youngster, passing through.

Last January we had a moose here in downtown. They tranquilized it and took it out to where moose live, far from people.

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: GUEST,SINSULL
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 11:55 AM

And here I thought this was a protest against capital punishment for males vs. females.

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 12:37 PM

Many of the transmission line conductors are not insulated, and birds are not harmed by landing on one of the wires. Most of the "fried critter" incidents I've seen or heard reliably reported result when the bird sits on one wire and pecks, or beats his wings, at a bird on a different wire. "Skwerls" - to use the new mudcat spelling - have a real problem with that twitchy little tail. They're on one wire and flick the tail too close to another wire.

When someone decided that those great tall isolated cross-country transmission line pylons would be a great place to put nesting boxes, the utilities felt compelled to permit it. Then they started finding lots of dead iggles*. The transmission line people were then "volunteered" to re-space many many miles of lines, to meet the new "environmental impact amelioration" requirement for more separation between individual lines. Most birds land with wings spread, so they could touch one line with a foot and another with a wing. There's also the scenario of two birds on different wires "squabbling" with each other, and young birds squabble a lot.

At the voltages used on the larger transmission lines, "touching" doesn't necessarily mean coming in contact. A warm blooded body coming within a foot or so - sometimes within several feet - is definitely "electrically connected," especially if its "other end" is similarly close to a different line.

* "iggle" used as generic for any of several large birds affected.

John

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 12:45 PM

Actually, the aluminum wire is a ground wire and the rubber coated insuylated wires are lectrical wires. The problem is that Mr. Bird ain't got 'nuff conductibility to draw the juice thru the insulated wire... Now, take my cousin Rufus. He weighs 'bout 137 pounds drippin' wet of which accordin' to the science folks, who incidentlty Mr. Bush thinks is nuts, is 'bout 80% water. Beer in Rufu's case but we won't belabor that side issue. Now water is real conductable and lectrical jus' loves it... You know, kind like Romeao and Juliet... Now back to Rufus... His lovely wife, Rether May, wakes up one rainy mornin' and decides that it would be a perfect day for Rufus to clean out the gutter on the half a double-wide thay live in. So Rufus goes out behind the privy to get what? Yep. The alumunum extension ladder. Hmmmmm?

Well, Rufus is still a little hung over from last nights Iron City Beer-In behind the Sweet Springs store. Did I mention that lectrical loves aluminum, too, and will actually jump to get too it?

So, according to the Wes Ginny Slide Rule ya got about 100 pounds worth of water, diluted somewaht by Iron City Beer, carryin' an aluminum 'tension ladder and these two so called insulated lectrical wires runnin' down from the dead poplar tree out hy Rufus's dead Cevette collection to the half a double wide. Well, Iz here to say that Rufus & Ladder combination is lookin' like a fine lookin' woman in the GI camp as far as the lectrical is concerned... Danged site better lookin' than Tweedy Bird ever looked...

Now ya' all gots keep in mind that just to add to attraction there is that third (nuetral) wire that is running down from the poplar tree with the two lectrical...

This is where the Bobert comes into the story. Iz riding by Rufus's place just about the time that Rufe & Ladder are just about to unknowingly test to see if there really is lecrical in them wires... So I lays on the horn in the Toyota, which startles Rufus and he lets go of the ladder just in time for it to land accross them wires over his head...

Well, whaddyyathink exactly happened when the lectrical sniffed out that aluminum ladder leanin' on it? Danged stuff jumped right thru the insulated wire, went right down the ladder to that wet ground right next to Rufus and about that same instance came a loud boom from the transformer blowin which echoed thru the holler fir 'bout 10 seconds while literally picking poor ol' Rufus up and throwing the boy 'bout half way back to the privy. Sho nuff did. Not only that, it melted about half the tread off his new Pick-a-Pair $8 tennis shoes...

Now, just to complete Bobert's 'lecrical 101 course, had there not been a transformer then, sniff, I woulda had to bury my poor ol' ciszin back on that cold rainy day but since it was there, acting like a big old fuse, all it did was melt them shoes, leave Rufus with a twitch which I ain't sure was fom the 'lectricity 'er the the Iron City Beer, and provide everyone a lesson on why we should always ignore our wives when they ask us to do stuff 'round the house...

And everyone lived happily ever after...

'cept the blowed up transformer and the shoes...

Sniff...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: Amos
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 12:54 PM

Dang, I love it when Bobert tells his sotries!! Better'n' DIsney!!! Thanks, Uncle Bobert!!!

LOL


A

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 12:58 PM

moose problem

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 01:21 PM

'Like a bird on a wire'
Chicken Fricaselectricitee
Think positive.
Woodstock; you're grounded */+*^%$sizzle
Time for my medication
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Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 01:58 PM

John...what would you do if a bird s..t on your car windscreen?
Best wishes.

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: open mike
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 02:29 PM

there are specila devices like upside down "V"'s that are attached to
high power electric lines to prevent iggles , condors, etc. from landing on them. PG&E has a lot ofiggle saving devices in California.

and speaking fo mooses, hjere is a song by Fred Small about a
moose that fell in love with a cow.

http://www.guntheranderson.com/v/data/ifiwerea.htm

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 05:45 PM

open mike -

You may know of some devices I haven't noted, but the only "upside down "V"s" I've seen are to prevent the lines from "galloping" in snow or sleet conditions. They're actually "aerodynamic torsion dampers" of a sort. Since they do sort of "twist" the wire when the wind blows, they might make it a little less comfortable for a bird to sit there, but that's not their real purpose.

I believe it was Smithsonian Magazine that had a rather nice article about the "nesting box" project(s) some time ago, with mention of the "new standards" for line separation in eagle (and condor) country. The power companies were pretty cooperative when the problem was pointed out to them. The adjustment of the spacing could usually be done just by changing the insulator lengths. They change the insulators fairly regularly anyway. This way they got the deductible maintenance expense and an additional deduction (mostly of the same expense) for "environmental regulation compliance," which probably made the annual reports look a little better.[I don't recall that the article discussed their bookkeeping.]

John

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 06:13 PM

Back around 1968 or 9 or maybe 70 or 71 my brothers Ted and Tony went out to help a friend cut down a big ol' dead snag tree on his camp property.

Now, this camp was a two bedroom, one bath* house on stilts, so that if the Mississippi flooded it might stand a chance of surviving. And the snag was in the yard between the camp and the river.

So these two woodsmen, experts in the use of the double-bit axe and the two-person saw, calculated the best angle to cut the tree so that it would drop into the river, mostly, and not on the electrical wires that ran from the road to the camp. Here's a sorta sketch of the setup:


R|   ----         }
O|   | C |       {River
A|   | A |       {
D|   | M |       }
|   | P |       {
|   -----       }
|          * snag{

And the 'lectrical wires came from the road to the bottom middle edge of the camp. This setup isn't very hard to figure out, and the snag wasn't twisted or anything.

So they chopped and sawed away, cutting a V on the river side and then started sawing a tad above the V on the road side. And yup, that old snag snapped and twisted and started to fall into the river -- until its top fell onto the branches of another tree growing along the river bank.

That second tree's branches bent and SPROONG! tossed that snag the other way. And yes, it then took out the electrical wires and two windows.

Nobody could believe it, but they'd seen it with their very own eyes. There were about six sober witnesses, and I dunno how many unsober ones. And yes, the transformer exploded with a mighty bang.

The general consensus was that it was damned lucky nobody got killed and that Tony and Ted wouldn't be asked to cut down many more trees.

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: freightdawg
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 09:20 PM

A lot of eagles, owls and large hawks out in our neck of the woods get fried when their wing tips reach from wire to wire and they get zapped. It takes a horrible toll on large birds of prey. Little birdies escape the zapper.

Actually, all transmission (distribution) lines are uninsulated. The only insulated wires are the wires that go from the transformers to the individual homes or businesses. They are insulated to protect from ladders, tree trimmers, etc, from becoming instruments of death and destruction when they accidentally come into contact with the wires. If a human was to grap just one wire (depending on voltage, of course) he would probably just be burned. Electrocution comes into play when there is some connection to the ground.

Also, (so I am told, anyway) it is not really the voltage that kills, it is the amperage, or the speed at which the voltage is traveling. This, of course, is coming from someone who is tempted to turn the circuit breaker off to change a light bulb. I HATE ELECTRICITY. I dislike anything that can kill without being seen, heard, smelt or felt.

a most cowardly,

Freightdawg

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 09:31 PM

Well, gol danged, F-dawg... Whats wrong wid playin' 'round in the breaker panel 'er wiring in a switch 'er outlet with the wires hot? Hey, no guts, no glory...

Okay, ya' gonna get hit now an' then but not letchercuted 'er nuthin... Gettin' hit now an' then is good fir ya'. Better than Wonder bread, if ya can believe that... Hey, if it were so bad fir ya then why'd they used to take depressed and derangerated folks and light 'um up fir a second 'er two? Answer me that one... Straightened the heck out of them folks. Sho nuff did. Whatever they was doing bad was instantly corrected with a little voltage...

So don't worry about an occasionl jolt. It's better than two hours on the couch spillin' yer guts to some shrink!

Just my opinion, of course.

Bobobobobobobobobert

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 09:51 PM

so, how often do you stick yer finger in the socket, Bobert? *grin* Mebbe that would help with some of those wimmen problems!

"lets not argue, dear...just hold this wire a second."

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: Deckman
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 10:42 PM

I hope my story won't put a damper on this thread. When I was eight, and I was once, during a snow storm the local electrical company sent out a line crew to repair our downed lines. Something horrible happened, and a lineman died on the pole, electricuted. I well remember watching as his fellow lineman climbed the pole and spent an hour giving him resporation squeezes while he hung in the air. This was in the fourties and we didn't know about CPR back then.

Damned nasty stuff ... electricity!

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 10:52 PM

Sorry to hear about this tragic event, Bob... 8 years old is way to young to go through something like that. Actually, no age is any beteer for that matter...

A real bummer...

Yeah, I might joke about electricity but beneath the joking is one kingsized respect for it... Fortunately, I know enough about it to not do anything too dumb though I don't always turn breakers off when doing simple wiring but I should...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: freightdawg
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 11:25 PM

Well, Bobert, although its not the whole story, this is part of the reason why I have a healthy, passionate, intense phobia of electricity.

I must have been six or seven years old when this story took place. The oldest kid on the block had one of those old timey go-carts - this was a rattle trap contraption with four wheels and a lawnmower engine hooked up to a bicycle chain. Well, he was fidgeting with the engine and all his little groupies were hanging around, hoping to get a ride when he got the thing rolling. So he says, "don't nobody pull the cord while I have my hand down here" and he sticks his hand down to fiddle with (I assume) the sparkplug. So I, being the genius of the aforementioned groupies, grabs ahold of the starter cord and I rip with all my six or seven year old muscles. I can still hear him scream and start cussin' and rantin' and ravin' and chasing me.

I learned right then and there that electricity can kill you in a lot of different ways, not the least of which is a deranged teenage lawnmower go-cart mechanic/ax murderer.

On a much more somber note, I was working for an electric company as a summer intern when a lineman was electrocuted. He was in a bucket truck, working on a light when he forced his way between the phone line and the transmission line. The first time he made it. Coming back through he did not get far enough down into the bucket, and the top of his safety helmet contacted the transmission line. He was working between the lines because he did not want to take the time to move his truck. He died instantly. Linemen have a special bond with each other. It took a long time before the usual banter and good natured jokes returned to the company.

Freightdawg.

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 11:59 PM

Danged, F-dawg... Supreme bummer... I'm sorry that your do0worker, his family and you had to go thru that...

I din't mean to trivalize the dangers of electricity with my earlier post. I thought it would be a good way to teach folks a little about the stuff without having anyone actually die but, yeah, the stuff can kill you if you half let it...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 12:29 AM

yeh great to have you back jOhn!

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: GUEST,SueB
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 01:06 AM

But what happened to the other half of the double-wide mobile home, Bobert? Did somebody steal it? Which half was it, anyway? Was one whole side just a big sheet of plastic, like on the ones I see rolling down the highway?

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 08:57 AM

Well, SueB, as luck would (or perhaps wouldn't), about 4 years ago my couzin Rufus was up behind Sweet Springs Store drinking with his buddies an', well, they started arguing over who was going to win the Musselman High Schoool/ Martinsburg High School Football game. Well, Rufus had briefly attended Musselman in the 9th grade before dropping outta school entirely so I reckon his heart got in the way of his head and he bet half is double wide that Mussleman would win. Luckilly he didn't say which half would win 'cause Mussleman lost 24-13 and my couzin got his choice. Seein' that both the bathroom and kitchen were in the back half, he let the front half go... Well, he got him some T-111 siding and closed it up. Now the only problem is that from the only reamining bedroom he has to climb out the window and down a step ladder propped up against the back of the joint and come in the back door to get to the bathroom. Ain't all that bad on Rufus since he only weigh's 'bout 137 pounds but it's a sight to see Rether May coming thru that window cause, bless her heart, the poor ol' gal barely fits and 'round the Hoildays has been known to get stuck in the window frame until Rufus rounds up nuff folks to pull her out...

And that is a true story...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 09:21 AM

When I was stationed in Korea (US Army) I had to go do the write-up on an accident. Some guy decided to move a crane, boom up, and it got too close to a transmission line. The power arced, and I found out when I got there why I, as junior NCO in the office, pulled that duty.

Still sometimes causes nightmares.

Do be careful out there.

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: GUEST,Mingulay
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 09:57 AM

This thread should be renamed

True Tales of Trailer Folk

wish I could say that as easy as type it.

Those 5&10 store teeth don't work like they did when I bought them.

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 10:17 AM

Guess it must be Frieday!
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 10:27 AM

A dead baby bird fell 40ft out of a nest and landed on my shoulder. In some cultures that may mean Good Luck.

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 10:33 AM

When people need to work on live cable they use a contraption called "a Faraday Cage". This is a metal cage which is connected to the "Live" ie non-earth side of the system, and which prevents them from grounding themself (touching earth) in any way. To suffer an electric shock, current must actually flow through the body - ie from Live to Ground (or Neutral/Negative). I have watched electricians work on live circuits and on normal mains voltages, many of them will keep one hand in their pocket. This is to make sure that they don't get a shock from one hand to the other as this will tend to cross the body in the vicinity of the heart, which can be fatal. A shock to one hand will often ony be able to reach ground via legs and shoes, and a pair of dry rubber soles will greatly cut down any risks.

Incidently any coating on a main distribution (ie pylon) wire (132,000v and above) would only be to minimise corrosion and at those volages would have no insulating effect whatsoever. On the othe hand, the distance that the lines are set apart and the size of the insulators would make it imposible for most UK forna to touch live and ground at the same time.

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: GUEST,SueB
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 10:51 AM

And the guy who won the other half and hauled it away? What's he doing with it, if I may ask? New barn for the pigs and chickens? What does one do with the bathroomfree half of a doublewide? Not cooking, I can see - but outhouses are cold in the winter and full of black widow spiders the rest of the time.

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: redhorse
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 11:26 AM

What I've never understood is why don't their feathers stand on end?

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: Shanghaiceltic
Date: 26 Oct 04 - 10:27 PM

Try this one about the cat taking out a substation! There' even mention of a sqkyril at the end jOhn.




Curiosity killed the power: Cat in substation blamed for city outage

By CINDY KLEPPER, City Editor

If your microwave quit with the bag of popcorn half-inflated Sunday evening, it didn't matter anyway -- the cable was out, too.

And you can blame the cat.

The feline, of the dark tiger variety, wandered into the Cinergy substation north of town, darkening many city homes and most city TV sets. And then -- after an unhealthy jolt of electricity had coursed through its body -- the cat wandered away.

"It must have had one more life," said Animal Control Officer Sheryl Arnold.

The cat's curiosity apparently led it into the substation near Johnson Junction on Guilford Street around 7 o'clock Sunday evening. At 7:05, the north end of the city was plunged into darkness.

"He touched two of the wrong wires at the same time, I'm guessing," said Arnold.


The cat's adventure left 2,516 Cinergy customers in Huntington without power. One of those customers was Comcast Cable, and when Comcast's power was interrupted, television screens all over Huntington went dark.

The power went out at 7:05 p.m. and was restored at 8:36 p.m., said Rob Norris of Cinergy's corporate office in Plainfield.

Arnold was called to the substation when a scorched cat was spotted at the scene.

"I came very close to catching the little stinker," Arnold said. "But everything was black up there, even the cat. It took off running lickety-split."

The cat ran into a field behind the substation.

"He seemed to be OK, but it seemed to have a bald butt," she said. "We could smell cooking fur."

Arnold planned to return today to look again for the cat, and she's asking area residents to be on the lookout for a medium-sized dark feline with a hairless rear end. If anyone does spot the animal, she asks that they call the Huntington County Humane Shelter at 356-0355 during its business hours, noon to 6 p.m. Outside of shelter business hours, they should call city police at 356-7110 so Arnold can be paged.

Norris was surprised to learn that the cat survived. He said the cat had wandered into a 12-kilovolt temporary regulator, one of the devices used to reduce the voltage of the electricity being brought into town.

While the substation is fenced in, the equipment inside the fence is not enclosed.

"That's why we tell people to stay out," he said. "You don't want to touch two of some things at the same time."

It's not unusual for animals, usually squirrels, to short out a substation, Norris said, but it's also not that common -- happening maybe once or twice a month in Cinergy's 22,000-square-mile service territory.

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Mar 06 - 11:44 PM

Fascinating.

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: freda underhill
Date: 03 Mar 06 - 06:52 PM

-------------------- BREAKING NEWS --------------------

In an attempt to thwart the spread of bird flu to the US.

George W. Bush has bombed the Canary Islands

Subject: RE: BS: Why birds dont get eletricuted then?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Mar 06 - 08:00 PM

* chuckle *