Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught

Subject: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: jacqui.c
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 06:53 PM

Jacqui wants to get back to playing guitar, but my Taylor is too big for her. I don't have much experience with small bodies so would appreciate some input.

Subject: RE: Jacquie can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: jacqui.c
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 06:54 PM

That was me, Kendall. Would one of the clones please drop that "e" off the end of Jacqui?

Subject: RE: Jacquie can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: DonMeixner
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 07:02 PM

Great double entendre tho'

A Martin   0-16 NY

A Larrivee Parlor Guitar

I like the new Taylor 210 alot. And my Guild F-30 has a small shallow body with a short scale.

Good luck,

Don

Subject: RE: Jacquie can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Midchuck
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 07:14 PM

Here's a picture of "the Cuzzins" on my front porch.

L. to R.: Collings 000-2H, Froggy Bottom H-12, Martin 000-16SGT.

I've thought about selling the Martin. It isn't getting played enough, with the other two available.

I also have a Walnut and Spruce 12-fret 00 by Jesse Brace, in British Columbia, that I might be talked out of for a relatively small amount of filthy lucre.

Come over sometime and try them out.

Peter.

Subject: RE: Jacquie can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: DonMeixner
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 07:15 PM

O shit Kendall that post is jut too full of double entendre that I have to stop reading things in to what you asked.

There may be a smaller Johnson available....

Don

Subject: RE: Jacquie can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Tinker
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 07:16 PM

Okay Kendall, I read the first post, bit my tounge ... contained my smirk and now I'll answer.

I've got a 000-15 Martin that's a good size for me. My kids have a Washburn AE18 which is a good size, but chosen for the flash to keep them away from the Martin.

tink

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Midchuck
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 07:24 PM

If she can't handle your Dreadnought or Don's Johnson, maybe she'd like to pet my beautiful Willie.

Peter.

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Deckman
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 07:24 PM

Kendall ... your post does require serious (hahahaha) concentration. I'm glad that I (hahahaha) have succeeded. I do have a 1927 O16 - NY. Quite rare (hahahaha) really a darling ... as is obviously your bride.
In the future, will you (hahahaha) make an effort stick to the subject! CHEERS (hahahaha) Bob

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Deckman
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 07:26 PM

Kendall ... my appologies. I was laughing so hard that I forgot my point. Yes, a "parlor" guitar is something to seriously look for. (hahahaha) Bob

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Leadfingers
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 07:31 PM

As soon as I saw that thread heading I thought -'Kendall bragging again' !!!!!

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 07:44 PM

Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught,
My Taylor is too big for her,
I've not had much to do with small bodies, that's true,
Could you help me to sort this affair?

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Nancy King
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 07:52 PM

Aw, Kendall, you're in trouble now.....

(I'm about the same size as Jacqui and I love my Martin 000-18)

Love to both of you,
Nancy

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Annie
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 07:54 PM

Tinker, unless you got another new one since 2 years ago at the Getaway, I think yours is a 00-15. Mine's the 00-16 cutaway with spruce top and walnut b and s.

In my limited experience, the spruce top and walnut b&s blends better with vocals than do my two larger rosewood b and s guitars which have better solo tone. I recommend the Martin women-in-music series for the extra depth of the body. 00's are so lovely to play. You just get the best sounding one you can find. It's worth the smaller tone to get your hands and arms around the thing.

A

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 07:58 PM

I love my big Martin but when I was having trouble with my shoulder a friend brought me a Baby Taylor to play. I was very impressed with its tone and playability.

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Alaska Mike
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 08:44 PM

I think Tinker and Nancy gave you some excellent advice on the OOO Martins. Have Jacqui try one or two at a music store and see what she thinks. They look like a ukulele when I hold them, but they sound pretty good.

Best wishes,
Mike

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Jeri
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 08:45 PM

I've got a 00-17 Martin (the "vintage" model). It's from 2001, but I think they stopped making them for a while. Try any 00 model.

My "dream guitar" is a Running Dog. He's usally at NEFFA in the spring, and I always play his guitars being very carelful not to get any drool on them. He's in Vermont, and his custom guitars are, for custom guitars, reasonably priced. What I love about these guitars is how sweet they sound and how BIG the bass is, even on the smaller models. (I started typing this 40 minutes ago and got lost in the site.)

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Gorgeous Gary
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 09:06 PM

Peter Cox from Midhurt, ON makes some nice thin-bodied guitars. IIRC Charmion had one at the Getaway, and I know a bunch of people in the filk community have bought guitars and bouzoukis from him.

-- Gary

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: kendall
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 09:19 PM

I'm like a friggin' fish...everytime I open my mouth I'm in trouble.

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Peace
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 09:39 PM

Well, have you given thought to a 3/4 'guitar'? Seems most people know what this thread is REALLY about.

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: jacqui.c
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 10:52 PM

Well, I've just seen this post and must explain the situation.

I can handle Kendall's Dreadnought ok - I just can't get a good tune out of it and you all know that the tune is the thing. Kendall really suffers as a result of my efforts.

I'm grateful for all the advice I can get on this subject!

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Peace
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 10:56 PM

OK, I'm outta here.

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 11:06 PM

First of all, Kendall, remember what I told you last weekend about the womenz?

Like when yopu used to post stuff it would say "Kendall". That's you, pal. Now look what pops up (pun intended) when you try to post. Ahhhh, glad to see yer enjoying yer honeymoon...

But, hey, I'm sure the Mrs. will let you have yer handle back any day now. Or not? I got the same problem wid the P-Vine wid most stuff 'cept the pudder. Oh well, marital bliss ain't half bad...

But now as fir that guitar. Jacgui will do just fine with a 3/4 gitfiddle... If that don't work, then, hey, find her an old tenor guitar. They're so samll that the one I got I found in the bottom of a Cracker-Jacks box...

Good luck with the guitar and...

...awww, nevermind. Luck ain't got nuthin' to do with it when you, ahhhhh, got a dreadnaught!...

Bobert

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: DonMeixner
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 11:43 PM

Don't the luthiers say that the quality of the tone and the strength of the response depends on the wood? And the tonal response gets continually better with use and age?

Don

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: GUEST,Lanfranc on Elizabeth's PC
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 04:11 AM

Hi Kendall & Jacqui

I have this delicious image of Jacqui peeping Chad-like from behind a Dreadnought - "Wot, no tune?"

Despite my bulk, I have taken to playing a 000-16CGTE. The tone and volume are up there with my dreadnoughts, and it takes up less space at crowded sessions. These new lower-end Martins are pretty good and will obviously be cheaper over there.

Alternatively, if you want a less expensive small-ish guitar - you could seek out a current Washburn Parlor or WG2S model. Made in China maybe, but those I have seen and played have been well made and finished and here they cost less than 20% of the cost of a Martin equivalent.

Elizabeth and I have our "engagement" guitar, a 1968 Yairi classical, you two could have a "wedding" guitar. Just buy one that "rings"!

Alan

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 04:20 AM

Great thread!! Definitely my chuckle for the day!

I'll leave the suggestions to others wiser and more able to keep straight faces.

..xx..e

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 05:21 AM

A further suggestion
Giok

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Bill D
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 06:23 AM

HA! Giok, I know Kendall is well acquainted with 'boats', but mebbe that is a bit much to tie up to his dock....(On the other hand, if Kendall would bring one of those down, we could have the whole Getaway right on it!)

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: breezy
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 07:52 AM

theres many a good tune played on an old guitar

Its not the size ,its the sound that matters.

All the best Jacqui, El G CD launch is SRO.

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 12:28 PM

You two should have worked this out before you got married! I, like Ellenpoly, will sit back and watch for the advice. But the thread title was irresistable.

SRS

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 12:37 PM

Could it be a problem with the fan bracing?
Giok

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Susan of DT
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 04:10 PM

(dick greenhaus)
Well, Kendall touted me onto a Nick Apollonio Parlor Guitar which is handy, has a big, lovely tone and plays easily. Don't know if there are any more available, but I'd heartily recommend one. (So would most of the people who've played mine.)

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: SINSULL
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 05:10 PM

Clever woman has already mastered the Maine technique of exaggerating the truth and keeping a straight face. Bet she can handle his guitar just as well if she sets her mind to it.

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: frogprince
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 05:53 PM

probably his dreadnaught, too.

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Lanfranc
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 06:24 PM

"A sailor and his true love were walking one day
Said the sailor to his true love 'It's time for to play!'
He pulled forth a dreadnought with a large upper bout
But she begged for a parlo(u)r so that she could see out

And they played so sweet and comforting as they clung to each other
They passed the guitar around like sister and brother
They passed the guitar around by the light of the moon
But his true love complained that she still couldn't pick a tune"

Alan

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: DonMeixner
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 07:00 PM

So he took up his Taylor, Twas large, wide, and long,
It was hard as Mahogany and it's truss rod was strong
It's truss rod was rigid and it's strings in fine tune.
"Handle it gentle love, You'll get the hang of it soon.

And they played sweet and.....

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 09:09 PM

Hi Jacqui

I think you met the late Jacqui Walker's Hagstrom at my party. It is a BIG dreadnaught. There is no intrinsic reason a woman cannot play a big guitar - but I have to admit JacquiW was 5 foot 8 and most of her life a size 8.   Play what sounds right to you, and learn to live withthe sharp edges. I'm sure Suzi Quattro played a long scale bass -because she wanted to..

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 09:53 PM

"Whew! Engaging lyrics!" she said, fanning a sheaf of music to cool herself as she speculated about other instruments, and what might happen if Jacqui decided to take up the organ. . .

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Ebbie
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 11:37 PM

LOL

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 Oct 04 - 09:18 AM

Or The Small Pipes Do try the sound clips.
Giok

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Amos
Date: 24 Oct 04 - 09:49 AM

Those Fireside Pipes are interesting, but they take a certain power of lung and embouchure to get the best sounds out, and a strong sense of rhythm is also important.

A

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Midchuck
Date: 24 Oct 04 - 10:26 AM

The problem is solved. Kendall and Jacqui just left. They called yesterday morning and asked if they could come over to check out guitars, and blew in about 6:30 in the new Winnebago. (Kendall says it's a V6, and struggled with the Green Mountains; he was a little dubious about taking it over the Rockies next year.) We (and bigchuck) had a good supper, singing and lying session, and breakfast, and Jacqui left in possession of my Martin 000-16SGT (in the picture I linked to in my first post on this thread, the guitar on the viewer's right).

Although Jacqui couldn't handle Kendall's Dreadnought, she found my smaller instrument much to her liking.

Of course this means that, for the first time since Christmas 1962, I have no Martin! A Collings, a Froggy Bottom, a CA Acoustic, a Proulx, a Takamine, and a couple of ringers by unknown makers, but no Martin. We still have one in the house, the '65 0-18, but it's Kris's.

Something will have to be done.

Peter.

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 Oct 04 - 10:35 AM

They say that size doesn't matter. Well this thread disproves that story!
Giok

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Amos
Date: 24 Oct 04 - 10:52 AM

Peter:

Yes, something must be done. Can't have you going about without a Martin.

Perhaps you already have a down payment in mind?

A

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Leadfingers
Date: 24 Oct 04 - 11:07 AM

OLnce had a long discussion with a mate of mine who was concerned about 'Size' - It took about an hour and a half to convince him that 'Size' was not really imprtant , and he stayed that way right up till the wall paper fell off the wall !!

O K - I'll get my coat !

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: jacqui.c
Date: 24 Oct 04 - 04:58 PM

Yep - thanks to Peter I am now the proud owner of a lovely guitar.

Now all I have to do is to get the Cap'n to tutor me on technique and I hope that we can then make beautiful music together.

Only problem is that he quite took to Peter's smaller one and I'm a bit concerned that I may have to stop him playing with it all the time....

Anyone got any suggestions?

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: kendall
Date: 24 Oct 04 - 05:18 PM

I opened the door and the wags came in,
Shut the door and they're posting again
The problem was solved with a handful of tin
But, I don't mind, 'cause now she's kin.

Who would have guessed that this would be solved by a guy called Peter? Actually, it's starting to make sense...now I'm getting worried.

"You may fire when ready, Gridley"!!

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: GUEST,WyoWoman
Date: 24 Oct 04 - 05:22 PM

Now, about those big bazoukis ...

Wyo

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 04:35 AM

"There's many a good tune played on an piano"

- just keep Jacqui away from any "German Misicianers" Kendall !

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 06:48 AM

Who cares about what the the Tune is, if the Harmony is great!...

:-P

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 09:53 AM

Sounds like an entirely satisfactory transaction, double entendres and all!

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Lanfranc
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 10:05 AM

Welcome to the Martin Owners' Club, Jacqui!

I look forward to meeting it at Christmas, and to introducing it to its long-lost cousin, my 000-16CGTE! Though, thinking about it, it would probably be best left over there rather than being entrusted to LHR or LGW's baggage handlers!

Remember (having reached the scabby and itchy stage with my recent injuries) - the only thing that gets better when you pick it is a guitar.

ttfn

Alan

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Tannywheeler
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 11:09 PM

Sounds like someone (or several someones?) needs his VIAGRA supply cut off. She's still a blushing bride, guys. Put your hands over your ears, Jacqui. Dreadnoughts, yet. Oy, weh. Good excuse for music, though. Thanks for the pics - ships, pens, pipes (with sound), and guitars.   Tw

Subject: RE: Jacqui can't handle my Dreadnaught
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 26 Oct 04 - 04:36 AM

I can't imagine Jacqui blushing - unless she was flushed was with anticipation !