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17 Jul 02 - 04:44 PM (#749881) Subject: The Wee Lass on the Brae From: Deskjet I've tried the lyric search and came across an incomplete account. Does anyone have the words to the version as sung by Triona and Maighread Ni Dhomhnaill?Thanks in advance. |
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17 Jul 02 - 06:34 PM (#749963) Subject: Lyr Add: THE WEE LASS ON THE BRAE From: GUEST,HP Not sure if the version below is the exact one you're looking for, but it's the one I know! THE WEE LASS ON THE BRAE As I as a-walking one bright summer's day. Oh the fields were in blossom and the meadows were gay. I met a wee lassie tripping over the green. And I took her for Helen, the Grecian queen. The Grecian queen, the Grecian queen. And I took her for Helen, the grecian queen.
She's admired by many others and I know them right well.
My parents dote on me and it's all for their sake.
In faith there is a decline under yon forest sky.
So it's fare thee well me darling, I love you the best. The words come from the singing of several people - Patricia Flynn, Jim McFarland etc - and might well vary from printed versions, but I think they are approximately standard! |
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17 Jul 02 - 07:23 PM (#749986) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Wee Lass on the Brae From: Herga Kitty I originally learnt this off an over-engineered recording by Triona ni Dhobhnail, and have also compared notes with the versions by Patricia Flynn, Jim McFarland and Moira Craig. The structure of the 5 verses is the same in all of them, but there are textual variations in the verses.
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18 Jul 02 - 05:43 AM (#750241) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Wee Lass on the Brae From: Deskjet Great stuff.Thanks |
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17 Apr 03 - 01:50 PM (#935600) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Wee Lass on the Brae From: MMario tune? |
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18 Apr 03 - 09:33 AM (#935922) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Wee Lass on the Brae From: GUEST,leeneia That wasn't an over-engineered version by Triona ni Dhomhnaill. That was a charming version by Triona and her aunt. I have the album. In the second verse, they sing "beneath the hawthorn," not "beneath the arbour," and I think it fits better. It is more natural to sing haw-THORN than ar-BOUR, don't you think? My husband and I like to sing this song for St Patrick's Day, although I ran the words through my folk-processor first. |
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14 Jun 21 - 03:19 PM (#4110155) Subject: RE: Origins: The Wee Lass on the Brae From: Joe Offer Joe - do cleanup |
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14 Jun 21 - 11:28 PM (#4110217) Subject: RE: Origins: The Wee Lass on the Brae From: leeneia I recall Triona saying that her family learned the song from the singing of an old man on an obscure Irish folk-music program on the radio in Ireland, where she grew up. |
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14 Jun 21 - 11:29 PM (#4110218) Subject: RE: Origins: The Wee Lass on the Brae From: leeneia Tune is on the way. Watch this site for next couple of days. |
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14 Jun 21 - 11:36 PM (#4110219) Subject: RE: Origins: The Wee Lass on the Brae From: Reinhard Roud 9483, with two entries citing sound recordings from 1952 and 1983. Not listed in the Traditional Ballad Index |
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15 Jun 21 - 12:51 PM (#4110268) Subject: RE: The Wee Lass on the Brae From: Felipa as sung by Jim McFarland https://www.itma.ie/digital-library/sound/wee_lass_on_the_brae_jim_macfarland |
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15 Jun 21 - 01:12 PM (#4110271) Subject: RE: Origins: The Wee Lass on the Brae From: leeneia I've sent the NWC file to Joe for posting here. It has both the melody and harmony parts. The song has a big range, and the alto sings melody when the melody is comfortably low, then drops to lower notes as needed. |
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15 Jun 21 - 07:20 PM (#4110304) Subject: RE: Origins: The Wee Lass on the Brae From: MartinNail Triona and Maighread Ni Dhomhnaill sang this on Triona's Gael-Linn LP 'Triona' (CEF 043, 1975), reissued on CD as CEF CD 043. I don't have the LP, but the notes to the CD probably just reprint the LP notes. They say: "Very little is known about this song, save that it was learnt from the singing of an old Tyrone man, on a BBC recording. It was at times hard to make out the words, but here we have a fairly coherent version. Although not a song of any great consequence, it retains a lot of charm and has a very pleasant air." The recording in question must be the one of Peter Donnelly, recorded in Castle Caulfield, Co. Tyrone, in 1952. It's listed in the Roud index here: The Lass on the Brae. All the versions I've ever heard derive directly or indirectly from the Ni Dhomhnaill version. Martin |
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16 Jun 21 - 07:04 AM (#4110345) Subject: RE: Origins: The Wee Lass on the Brae From: MartinNail Sorry, that link should be The Lass on the Brae. Moral: remember to check preview before sending. |
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17 Jun 21 - 06:07 AM (#4110463) Subject: RE: Origins: The Wee Lass on the Brae From: MartinNail The original poster asked for the words to the version as sung by Triona and Maighread Ni Dhomhnaill. So here they are, as printed in the notes to the CD, which I think are a pretty accurate transcription of what is actually sung. The repetitions of the last line of each verse are not in the transcription but should be obvious. Thw Wee Lass on the Brae Once I roved out on a fine summer's day, The fields were in blossom and the meadows were gay I spied a wee lassie trippin' over the green, And I took her for Helen that Grecian queen. She's admired by others and I know them right well, Every morning to view that sweet spot where she dwells, Beneath the hawthorn at the brink on yon hill May she never marry but think on me still. Ah me parents died on me and it's all for their sake, And oftimes it causes my poor heart to break, But the more I think on them all the more I will say, That's there's no one will be mine but the wee lass on the Brae. Oh and faith there's a decline over yon faroff sky, It's off to my darling like lightning I'll fly, If the night was as long as a long summer's day, I would cheerfully sit with the wee lass on the Brae. So fare thee well darling I love you the best, And may you be happy and may you be blest, And may you think on me, ah, while I am far away, For there's no one will be mine but the wee lass on the Brae. What do I have to do to get these into the Digital Tradition? Martin |
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17 Jun 21 - 06:19 AM (#4110464) Subject: RE: Origins: The Wee Lass on the Brae From: MartinNail It's interesting to compare the various versions, given that we know a lot about the song's diffusiom. Jim MacFarland's version on the ITMA site (in the link posted earlier) is pretty close to the Ni Dhomhnaill version. Although there are many trivial differences the only significant one is where MacFarland sings 'Ah me parents they skived on me' in place of 'Ah me parents died on me'. The version posted earlier in this thread has many more differences, including the substitution of arbour for hawthorn noted above. |
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18 Jun 21 - 11:15 AM (#4110576) Subject: RE: Origins: The Wee Lass on the Brae From: GUEST,John Moulden The singer from whom this song diffused was Peter Donnelly of Castlecaulfield, Co Tyrone. He was recorded by the BBC in July 1952 - they thought it came from a ballad sheet but I've never seen such a sheet. The usual transcription has some major errors - the line that Martin Nail cites above has neither died not skived - neither of which make any sense in the context of 'And the more they ... on me. the more I will say. I hear the word as 'jibe' meaning 'object to'. My transcription of what Peter sang is below with a note I wrote at the time of transcription: The lass on the brae - Peter Donnelly, recorded at Castle Caulfield, Co. Tyrone. As I roved out on a fine summer day The fields were in blossom, and the meadows were gay I spied a wee lassie tripping over the green And I took her for Helen, that Grecian queen That Grecian queen, oh, that Grecian queen And I took her for Helen, that Grecian queen She's admired by others, I know them right well Every morning to view that sweet spot where she dwells Beneath the hawthorn that blooms on yon hill May she never marry, but think on me still But think on me still, but think on me still May she never marry, but think on me still Ah me parents jibes on me, and it's all for their sake And oft times it causes my poor heart to break But the more they jibe on me, ah, the more I will say That there's none will be mine but the lass on the brae The wee lass on the brae, the wee lass on the brae For there's none will be mine but the lass on the brae Ah when Phoebus declines o'er yon low far-off sky It is off to my darling like lightning I'll fly If the night was as long as a long summer's day I would cheerfully sit with the lass on the brae The wee lass on the brae, the wee lass on the brae I would cheerfully sit with the lass on the brae Ah so fare you well, darling, I love you the best And may you be happy and may you be blessed And may you think on me, ah when I'm far away For there's none will be mine but the lass on the brae The wee lass on the brae, the wee lass on the brae For there's none will be mine but the lass on the brae. Peter Donnelly was recorded by BBC who noted. DONNELLY, Peter Singer. Castle Caulfield, Co. Tyrone. July/August 1952. Farmer, living at Knockaclougher, Cappagh, Pomeroy, Co. Tyrone. Known locally as Peter Padhra' Ban, from his father, who was Padra(ig)Ban (i.e. White-haired Patrick). After he had sung 35 songs, it emerged he was 63. BBC RECORDED (all save Derry Gaol and Captain Colston are on FTRAX-432) Bonny bunch of roses (4): 18530; Captain Colston (3): 18531; Derry Gaol (2): 22336; Girl I left behind me (1): 18530; John McCann: 18533; Lass on the Brae: 18529; Moorlough Mary: 18529; Pat O'Hara: 18531. |