Lyr req: Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, others

Subject: ? Lyrics- Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, othe
From: Allan Samuels
Date: 21 Apr 97 - 11:02 PM

I know I am greedy, but there are so many of you and you are all so kind and generuos............

Here is my wish list: Katy Dear, Come In Stranger, Red Velvet, Traveling Drummer. (From "Early Morning Rain")

Pride Of Petrovar (From "Ian and Sylvia")

Four Rode By (From "Northern Journey")

V'La L'bon Vent (From "Four Strong Winds")

Congratulations on beating the gremlins out of the system!

Thanks, I'd be happy to return a favor if I can, Allan ( [e-mail])

Subject: Lyr Add: FOUR RODE BY^^^, RED VELVET^^^
From: rich r
Date: 22 Apr 97 - 12:02 AM

Well I will start, but won't put them all in one message. Thank goodness for you and me, "V'La L'bon Vent" about the good little breeze is in the DT database. This is good because I don't know French. A search of "vent" turned it up.

FOUR RODE BY by Ian Tyson (1964)

Four rode by, rode through here,
Three McLean boys and that wild Alex Hare.
They were armed, all were armed,
It was them and I'd have known them anywhere.

Willie Palmer's stallion was no twenty dollar cayuse
And when the wild bunch stole him, He high-tailed it into town.
Usher in those days was keeping order in the district
But before he'd ridden thirty miles, The McLean boys shot him down.

CHO: Four rode by, rode through here,
Three McLean boys and that wild Alex Hare.

A shepherd known as Kelly saw the wild bunch as they passed.
They shot him with a rifle and they took his watch and chain.
And when the posse found them there in the lonely cabin
A hunger took their fight away and no one else was slain. CHO.

They hung the boys in January 1881
The first time in that province that they'd strung up brothers three
And the son killed eighteen Germans across the seas back in seventeen
One thing, that's for damn sure, they're a wild old family.

Four rode by, rode through here,
Three McLean boys and that wild Alex Hare.
They were armed, all were armed,
It was them and I'd have known them anywhere.

RED VELVET by Ian Tyson (1965)

Four months ago in April on a day coach she came down
And the dusty autumn winds begin to blow
I should-a known I couldn't hold her living out so far from town
And the nights to come are long and slow to go.

Well now she's up and left me and went walkin' down the road
And the dusty autumn winds begin to blow.
All dressed up in red velvet and her high heel shoes so fine
And the nights to come are long and slow to go.

Well if I'd only known before we kissed
You can't keep red velvet on a poor dirt farm like this
Now she's gone and left me, went walkin' down the line
And the dusty autumn winds begin to blow

Well I'll sit and count the evening stars as they walk around
And the dusty autumn winds begin to blow.
Then I'll call my dog and take the truck and drive on into town
"Cause the nights to come are long and slow to go
And those dusty autumn winds begin to blow.

Words from "Ian & Sylvia" published by M Witmark & son, 1965. Unless somebody else chips in, I'll get to the others another time. I won't disagree that 7 songs in one request shades toward the greedy side.

rich r

Subject: Lyr Add: KATY DEAR (Ian & Sylvia)^^
From:
Date: 22 Apr 97 - 05:46 PM

Greedy perhaps but impeccable choice of songs. Let us just see if I have the carriage returns right.

KATY DEAR

Oh, Katy Dear, go ask your father
If you might be a bride of mine.
If he says yes then come and tell me.
If he says no, we'll run away.

I cannot go and ask my father,
For he is on his bed of rest,
And by his side there's a golden dagger
To pierce the heart I love the best.

Oh Katy Dear, go ask your mother
If you might be a bride of mine.
If she says yes then come and tell me.
If she says no, we'll run away.

I cannot go and ask my mother,
For she is on her bed of rest,
And by her side there's silver dagger
To pierce the heart I love the best.

(And right in here ya just gotta have a verse played on the Autoharp.)

He picked up a silver dagger
He pierced it through his wounded breast
Farewell Katy, farewell darling
I'll die for the one I love the best.

She picked up the bloody weapon
She pierced it through her snow-white breast.
Farewell Momma Farewell Poppa
I'll go with the one I love the best.

HTML line breaks added. --JoeClone, 23-May-02.

Subject: Lyr Add: FOUR STRONG WINDS^^^
From: Bo Vandenberg
Date: 23 Apr 97 - 12:56 AM

Nothing but blind ambition,,,, people today (grumble)

Here's what I have

FOUR STRONG WINDS
Written by Ian Tyson/Performed by Ian and Sylvia

CHO: Four strong winds that blow lonely, seven seas that run high,
All those things that don't change, come what may.
But our good times are all gone, and I'm bound for moving on.
I'll look for you if I'm ever back this way.

Guess I'll go down to Alberta, weather's good there in the fall.
Got some friends that I can go to workin' for.
Still I wish you'd change your mind, if I asked you one more time
But we've been through that a hundred times or more. CHO.

If I get there before the snow flies, and if things are looking good.
You could meet me if I sent you down the fare,
But by then it would be winter, not enough for you to do.
And those winds sure do blow cold way up there. CHO.

I actually like this sort of attention to one artist (or duo in this case)

HTML line breaks added. --JoeClone, 23-May-02.

Subject: Lyr Add: OLD BLUE^^^
From: Bo Vandenberg
Date: 23 Apr 97 - 12:59 AM

Here's "Blue" they do it on their first album:

Old Blue
performed by Ian and Sylvia

I had a dog and his name was blue
I had a dog and his name was blue
I had a dog and his name was blue
Betcha five dollars he's a good 'un too

Here Blue, you good dog you

Shouldered my gun and I tooted my horn
Gonna find a possum in the new ground corn
Old Blue barked and I went to see
Cornered a possum up in a tree

Old Blue died and he died so hard
Shook the ground in my backyard
Dug his grave with a silver spade
Lowered him down with links of chain

Every link I did call his name
Here Blue, you good dog you
Here Blue, I'm a-coming there too

Subject: RE: ? Lyrics- Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, othe
From: Allan
Date: 23 Apr 97 - 04:00 PM

Thanks so much to rich, Bo, and (unsigned). Got 'em printed. Still need Pride of Petrovar .

Thanks Again---Allan

Subject: Lyr Add: PRIDE OF PETROVAR + EILEEN OGE
From: rich r
Date: 24 Apr 97 - 10:24 PM

Well here's another one I managed to get into the computer.

PRIDE OF PETROVAR

words by Percy French
music - traditional

Well Eileen Orr, O that's me darlin's name is
O'er the Barony her features they were famous
If we loved her, well who is there to blame us,
For wasn't she the Pride of Petrovar?
But her beauty was like to make you shy,
Not a livin' boy could look her in the eye.
Boys O boys! now there's the reason why
we're in love with the Pride of Petrovar.

refrain:
Eileen Orr, me heart is turning gray
Ever since the day you wandered far away.
Eileen Orr, There's more fish in the sea,
But there's none just like the Pride of Petrovar.

Well it's Friday at the fair at Ballintubber,
Eileen met McGraw the old horse trader
I'd like to put me hands upon the robber,
For he stole away the Pride of Petrovar
Well he never seemed to see her standing there at all
Even when she ogled him from underneath her shawl
He was big and masterful and she was looking small
Most provokin' to the Pride of Petrovar

refrain

So it is and it was in the beginning
Eileen's heart was set upon the winning
To see McGraw contentedly a grinning
To be courted by the Pride of Petrovar
Says he, "I know a girl that could knock you into fits"
At that our Eileen nearly lost her wits.
The outcome of the whole thing is that now the robber sits
With his arm around the Pride of Petrovar.

refrain

Well, argh me boys, with fate 'tis hard to grapple
Of all those girls well our Eileen was the apple;
And now to see McGraw walking toward the chapel
Arm and arm with the Pride of Petrovar.
Well all I have is just one thing to say;
If you go a courtin' then look the other way,
If you want them to come after you, just look the other way,
For they're mostly like the Pride of Petrovar.



EILEEN OGE

Eileen Oge! an' that's the darlin's name is.
Through the Barony her features they were famous,
If we loved her , who was there to blame us,
For wasn't she the Pride of Petravore.
But her beauty made us all so shy,
Not a man could look her in the eye.
Boys, O boys, that's the reason why
We're in mournin' for the Pride of Petrovore.

Eileen Oge, me heart is growin' grey
Ever since the day you wandered far away.
Eileen Oge, There's good fish in the say
But there's no one like the Pride of Petrovore.

Friday at the fair of Ballintubber,
Eileen met McGrath the cattle jobber.
I'd like to set me mark upon the robber,
For he stole away the Pride of Petrovore.
He never seemed to see the girl at all,
Even when she ogled him underneath her shawl.
Lookin' big and masterful when she was lookin' small
Most provokin' for the Pride of Petrovore.

So it went as 'twas in the beginning,
Eileen Oge she was bent upon the winning.
Big McGrath contentedly was grinning,
Being courted by the Pride of Petrovore.
Sez he, "I know a girl that could knock you into fits."
At that our Eileen nearly lost her wits.
The upshot of the ruction was that now the robber sits
With his arm around the Pride of Petrovore.

Boys, O boys, with fate 'tis hard to grapple
Of his eye 'tis Eileen was the apple;
And now to see her walkin' to the chapel
Wid the hardest featured man in Petrovore.
And now boys, this is all I have to say;
When you do your courtin' don't make a display.
If you want them to run after you, just walkd the other way,
For they're mostly like the Pride of Petrovore



The first version was recorded by Ian & Sylvia on their first album. Basically the same version was also recorded by the Mitchell Trio on "Slightly Irreverent". A second, slightly different version is found in the book "Songs of Ireland" by Jerry Silverman, 1991 Mel Bay Publications.

Either way it's a good song.


rich r

Subject: Lyr Add: TRAVELLING DRUMMER^^^ COME IN STRANGER^^^
From: rich r
Date: 27 Apr 97 - 12:08 PM

Allan, here are the words to the other two songs. I got bumped off line while editing the text, so there is a slight chance of a double post, since I could not find what I had been working on.

TRAVELLING DRUMMER
(Sylvia Fricker)

I am a travelling drummer. I live out on the road.
I sell my goods from door to door to lighten up my load,
Boys, lighten up my load.

I used to be a fireman out on the county line,
But the town took over ten of us and fired us all but nine,
Boys, fired us all but nine

I had a wife and family in a home in Chamberlain (-land?)
But she ran off with a factory hand and I never went back again,
Boys, never went back again.

Some time when I get lonely and nights get over long,
I'll find an all-night bar girl and I'll take her home at dawn,
Boys, take her home at dawn.

I'll find myself a cheap hotel when I get into town,
A bottle of gin and a lumpy bed to lay my body down,
Boys, lay my body down.

I'd like to give up drummin' but I'm too old to try.
If nobody makes me a millionaire, I'll travel 'til I die,
Boys, travel 'til I die.

COME IN STRANGER
Words and music by Johnny Cash
As recorded by Johnny Cash on "All Aboard the Blue Train" (1958)

She said, "Come in, stranger.
It's good to have you home.
I hurried through 'cause I knew it was you
When I saw your dog waggin' his tail.
Honey, why didn't you let me know by mail?
You been gone so long."

She said, "Come in, stranger.
I know you're weary from all the miles.
Just sit right there in your easy chair
And tell me all about the places you've been,
How long it'll be before you leave again.
I hope it's a long, long while."

She said, "Come in, stranger.
Everything around home is fine.
I've watched and I've waited for you to get back
And I missed you all the time."

She said, "Come in, stranger.
Oh, how I miss you when you're gone.
I walk the floor and I watch the door,
And when I lie awake and wonder where you can be,
I'd give anything to have you here with me.
I get so lonesome all alone."

She said, "Come in, stranger,
And won't you listen to my plea?
Stay long enough so the one I love
Is not a stranger to me.

happy singing

rich r

Subject: RE: ? Lyrics- Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, othe
From: Bo Vandenberg
Date: 27 Apr 97 - 12:19 PM

Do Travelling Drummer & Come In Stranger have any relation to Ian and Sylvia?

just wonderring,

bo

Subject: RE: ? Lyrics- Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, othe
From:
Date: 27 Apr 97 - 09:07 PM

Travelling Drummer was written by Sylvia as noted previously. Both songs were recorded on the Early Morning Rain album

Subject: Lyrics: Beep beep or Little Nash Rambler
From: Devildog
Date: 12 Apr 97 - 12:05 AM

It played on the radio for a little while on the radio in the early sixties. I think the name was Beep Beep or,maybe, Little Nash Rambler. It started out slow and sped up till it reached a fevered pitch. It began, " I was riding in my caddilac and what to my surprise, a little Nash Rambler pulled up on me about one third my size. He must have been looking for trouble cause he kept on tooting his horn. I'll show him that a caddilac is not a car to scorn. Beep Beep, Beep Beep, his horn went Beep Beep Beep." It's the middle part I need help with. It finally ends with the Rambler catching up to the caddy and the driver of the Rambler opens the window and yells to the Caddy: "Hey, buddy, how do you get this car out of second gear!" Any help will be greatly appreciated!

Subject: Lyr Add: BEEP BEEP (rec. by The Playmates)^^^
From: Ralph Butts
Date: 12 Apr 97 - 08:47 AM

Ahh...1958, and the dweeb with the Rambler became a hero.... Tiger

BEEP BEEP—Playmates

CHORUS
Beep beep (beep beep),
Beep beep (beep beep),
His horn went beep beep beep (beep beep).

While riding in my Cadillac, what to my surprise,
A little Nash Rambler was following me, about one-third my size.
The guy must have wanted to pass me out
As he kept on tooting his horn (beep beep).
I'll show him that a Cadillac is not a car to scorn.

CHORUS

I pushed my foot down to the floor to give the guy the shake,
But the little Nash Rambler stayed right behind, he still had on his brake.
He must have thought his car had more guts,
As he kept on tooting his horn (beep beep).
I'll show him that a Cadillac is not a car to scorn.

CHORUS

My car went in to passing gear and we took off with gust,
And soon we were doing ninety, must have left him in the dust.
When I peeked in the mirror of my car, I couldn't believe my eyes.
The little Nash Rambler was right behind, you'd think that guy could fly.

CHORUS

Now we're doing a hundred and ten, it certainly was a race,
For a Rambler to pass a Caddy would be a big disgrace.
The guy must have wanted to pass me out as he kept on tooting his horn.
I'll show him that a Cadillac is not a car to scorn.

CHORUS

Now we're doing a hundred and twenty, as fast as I could go.
The Rambler pulled alongside of me as if we were going slow.
The fellow rolled his window down and yelled for me to hear:
"Hey, buddy, how can I get this car out of second gear?"+

Subject: RE: Lyrics: Beep beep or Little Nash Rambler
From: Devildog
Date: 12 Apr 97 - 06:59 PM

Hurray!! I heard this song as a kid and it stayed with me and it always bugged me that I could't remember all the lyrics. I always wanted to share it with my wife, who was born in 1960. I just sang it to her the way I remember it being sung with the help of the lyrics you supplied. She loved it. Thanks a million Ralph!

Subject: RE: Lyrics: Beep beep or Little Nash Rambler
From:
Date: 13 Apr 97 - 04:54 PM

Remember to start the first verse in slow motion and to accelerate when the cars do.

Subject: RE: ? Lyrics- Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, othe
From:
Date: 29 Apr 97 - 08:18 PM

The real question is what does BEEP BEEP have to do with Ian & Sylvia?

Subject: Lyr Add: V'LA L'BON VENT^^^
From:
Date: 30 Apr 97 - 12:15 PM

Here are the words to V'la Bon Vent. I did not transcribe them from Ian & Sylvia's version. Although it's catchy, their pronunciation is terrible. Although these lyrics are more traditional, my spelling may leave something to be desired.
________

V'LA L'BON VENT
(Traditional Canada)

REFRAIN: V'la l'bon vent, v'la le joli vent -
V'la l'bon vent, m'amie m'appelle
V'la l'bon vent, v'la le joli vent -
V'la l'bon vent, m'amie m'attends.

Derriere chez nous, y a't-un etang -
Derriere chez nous, y a-t-un etang
Trois beaux canards s'en vont baignant. REFRAIN

Trois beaux canards s'en vont baignant -
Trois beaux canards s'en vont baignant
Le fils du roi s'en va chassant. REFRAIN

Le fils du roi s'en va chassant -
Le fils du roi s'en va chassant
Avec son grand fusil d'argent. REFRAIN

Avec son grand fusil d'argent -
Avec son grand fusil d'argent
Visa le noir, tua le blanc. REFRAIN

Visa le noir, tua le blanc -
Visa le noir, tua le blanc
O fils du roi, tu es mechant. REFRAIN

O fils du roi, tu es mechant -
O fils du roi, tu es mechant
D'avoir tue mon canard blanc. REFRAIN

D'avoir tue mon canard blanc -
D'avoir tue mon canard blanc
Par dessous l'aile, il perd son sang. REFRAIN

Par dessous l'aile, il perd son sang -
Par dessous l'aile, il perd son sang
Par les yeux lui sortent des diamants. REFRAIN
___________

Amuse toi bien
Bob

HTML line breaks added. --JoeClone, 2-Nov-02.

Subject: Lyr Add: EN ROULANT MA BOULE^^^
From:
Date: 30 Apr 97 - 03:03 PM

Ce chanson (dont il existe 92 versions differentes, selon Marius Barbeau) etait le chanson favori des voyageurs. Le version le plus renomme est "En roulant ma boule" (voir dessous) avec "V'la le bon vent" seconde.

EN ROULANT MA BOULE

1. Derriere chez nous y'a t'un etang,
En roulant ma boule
Derriere chez nous y'a t'un etang,
En roulant ma boule
Trois beaux canards s'en vont baignant
Rouli Roulant ma boule roulant
En roulant ma boule roulant,
En roulant ma boule.

2. Trois beaux canards s'en vont baignant,
En roulant ma boule
Trois beaux canards s'en vont baignant,
En roulant ma boule
Le fils du roi s,en vont chassant
Rouli Roulant ma boule roulant
En roulant ma boule roulant,
En roulant ma boule.

3. Le fils du roi s'en va chassant...
Avec son grand fusil d'argent....

4. Avec son grand fusil d'argent...
Visa le noir tua le blanc....

5. Visa le noir tua le blanc...
O fils du roi tu es mechant....

6. O fils du roi tu es mechant...
D'avoir tue mon canard blanc....

7. D'avoir tue mon canard blanc...
Par dessous l'aile il perd son sang....

8. Par dessous l'aile il perd son sang...
Par les yeux lui sort'nt des diamants....

9. Par les yeux lui sort'nt des diamants...
Et par le bec l'or et l'argent....

10. Et par le bec l'or et l'argent...
Toutes ses plumes s'en vont au vent....

11. Toutes ses plumes s'en vont au vent...
Trois dames s'en vont les ramassant....

12. Trois dames s'en vont les ramassant...
C'est pour faire un lit de camp....

13. C'est pour faire un lit de camp...
Pour y coucher tous les passants....

Frank Phillips (mais quand j'essai de parler le langue francais, je m'appelle Francois Phillippes.)

HTML line breaks added, and italics added for clarity. --JoeClone, 2-Nov-02.

Subject: RE: ? Lyrics- Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, othe
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 30 Apr 97 - 07:18 PM

Do you Freanch-speakers have any problems with accent-less trancriptions? We've been hesitating to include languages other than English because of accent problems--any opinions?

Subject: RE: ? Lyrics- Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, othe
From: Joe Offer
Date: 01 May 97 - 01:26 AM

I think French would work without accents, but ya gotta have the apostrophes, Dick.

In a spirit of generosity, we Germans will forego the umlauts and accept the letter "e" after the modified vowel, as in "Das Wandern Ist des Muellers Lust."

We can also do without the esss-zed, as in "tschuess."

But I do think that Digital Tradition should have at least some of the more familiar foreign-language folk songs. I see some German and Spanish songs, but there could be more.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: ? Lyrics- Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, othe
From: Bob Landry
Date: 01 May 97 - 03:18 PM

Francois - Un grand merci pour l'histoire de la chanson (many thanks for the historical notes). It gives me more information on my background.

Dick - I don't need the accents on French lyrics. I'll put them in where I need to. You'll notice my submission was devoid of accents.

DT is indeed a gold mine. I'm finding lyrics to tunes that I've craved for years. I do have other contributions to make as I set them up for transmission - most will likely be of the Canadian/Celtic/Seafaring pursuasion. Would you prefer them here or direct to you at some other address?

Bob

Subject: RE: ? Lyrics- Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, othe
From:
Date: 01 May 97 - 08:37 PM

Bob (and others) Lyrics posted here WILL find their way into the database. So will lyrics sent to me at [e-mail].

Makes me no never-mind. dick

Subject: RE: ? Lyrics- Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, othe
From:
Date: 02 May 97 - 12:41 PM

I think accentless French will pose only minor problems since you can get the meaning of identically spelled words from context and insert the accents accorgingly. In order to be sure I checked with my voice teacher's wife who is a French speaker and she agreed with me.

I tried going through some songs to see how much confusion would result and found a sort of a counter example. There is a song called "Le Bal Chez Boule" which should have an acute accent on the e in Boule to be pronounced boolay which is a family name. In the song "En Roulant Ma Boule" the word has no accent and is pronounced bool-uh which means ball. BUT it's pronounced that way to fit the metre of the song. Normally final e's are silent. So in "En Roulant Ma Boule" you have to figure out the pronunciation from musical context anyhow and accents won't help.

I don't claim to be a French speaker despite a grandmother born in Quebec. I learned all my French in school. (Incredible as it may seem I taught it at the Grade 7-9 level some thiry years ago.)

Anyway bring on les chansons en Francais. (und auch deutsche lieder)

Frank Phillips

Subject: RE: ? Lyrics- Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, othe
From: Allan
Date: 02 May 97 - 09:24 PM

Once again, you are all sooooo great! I thank all who sent me the lyrics I requested. I'm happy to see so much interest in I & S. (I did'nt know they did "Little Nash Rambler" (LOL)

Allan

Subject: RE: ? Lyrics- Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, othe
From: Will
Date: 02 May 97 - 11:46 PM

Actually, "Little Nash Rambler" is just a variant of "Four Strong Winds", which I&S used to sing after a few beers at the Williams Lake Stampede.

Subject: RE: ? Lyrics- Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, othe
From: Joe Offer
Date: 29 Oct 02 - 12:20 AM

Also see Drowsy Sleeper
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Lyr req: Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, others
From: SINSULL
Date: 29 Oct 02 - 06:49 AM

Neat thread, Allan. I sang "Katy Dear" at the Getaway and got a number of blank looks. One of my favorites and a lot easier for me to manage than "Silver Dagger" ala Joan Baez. Somehow I know it as:

Katy Dear, go tell your father
If you can be a bride of mine

and a few other minor differences. I will have to dig out my Ian and Sylvia CDs and check.

Subject: RE: Lyr req: Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, others
From: GUEST,Geordie
Date: 29 Oct 02 - 10:40 AM

I LOVE Ian and Sylvia..does anyone know the lyrics to Brave Woolf or the Cutty Wren ?

Subject: BEEP BEEP
From: GUEST,Daniel Drake
Date: 30 Dec 03 - 07:10 PM

Is there a website where I can download the song.
I would appreciate it very much

Subject: RE: Lyr req: Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, others
From: Amos
Date: 30 Dec 03 - 07:35 PM

Daniel:

Which song were you wanting to download? The Mudcat doesn't have downloadable performance recordings, but it has some MIDIs and a lot of lyrics.

Please advise what you're looking for?

A

Subject: Lyr Add: CUTTY WREN (from Ian & Sylvia)
From: GUEST,Geoff Luebbert
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 01:01 PM

CUTTY WREN (traditional)

Oh where are you going said Milder to Malder
Oh we may not tell you said Fessel to Fose
We're off to the woods said John the Red Nose
We're off to the woods said John the Red Nose

And what will you do there said Milder to Malder
Oh we may not tell you said Fessel to Fose
We'll shoot the Cutty Wren said John the Red Nose
We'll shoot the Cutty Wren said John the Red Nose

How will you shoot her said Milder to Malder
Oh we may not tell you said Fessel to Fose
With bows and with arrows said John the Red Nose
With bows and with arrows said John the Red Nose

Oh that will not do, said Milder to Malder
Oh what will do then, said Fessel to Fose
Big guns and big cannons said John the Red Nose
Big guns and big cannons said John the Red Nose

And how will you bring her home said Milder to Malder
Oh we may not tell you said Fessel to Fose
On four strong men's shoulders said John the Red Nose.
On four strong men's shoulders said John the Red Nose.

Oh that will not do said Milder to Malder
Oh what will do then said Fessel to Fose
Big carts and big wagons said John the Red Nose
Big carts and big wagons said John the Red Nose

How will you cut her up said Milder to Malder
Oh we may not tell you said Fessel to Fose
With knives and with forks said John the Red Nose
With knives and with forks said John the Red Nose

Oh that will not do said Milder to Malder
Oh what will do then said Fessel to Fose
Big hatchets and cleavers said John the Red Nose
Big hatchets and cleavers said John the Red Nose

Oh how will you cook her said Milder to Malder
Oh we may not tell you said Fessel to Fose
With pots and with pans John the Red Nose
With pots and with pans John the Red Nose

Oh that will not do said Milder to Malder
Oh what will do then said Fessel to Fose
Bloody great brass cauldrons said John the Red Nose
Bloody great brass cauldrons said John the Red Nose

Oh who'll get the spare ribs said Milder to Malder
Oh we may not tell you said Fessel to Fose
We'll give 'em all to the poor said John the Red Nose
We'll give 'em all to the poor said John the Red Nose

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This allegory of regicide was also resurrected more recently by Chumbawamba.

Subject: RE: Lyr req: Ian & Sylvia songs: Four Rode By
From: thnidu
Date: 29 Nov 09 - 02:41 PM

The lyrics page has

"A hunger took their pride away and no one else was slain*
...
*been trying for 20 years to figure this line out, may have been hearing it wrong"

It's either "But hunger took..." or "Till hunger took...", I think the former. I learned this from the LP decades ago; I still have it, but no turntable to play it on.

Subject: RE: Lyr req: Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, others
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Mar 16 - 08:39 PM

Hi! Just wondering if anyone might have any access to the lyrics to Ian's "Farewell To The North"? Have always loved the song, but can't clearly make it all out...Thanks!!

Subject: RE: Lyr req: Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, others
From: SuperDave
Date: 10 Nov 18 - 11:42 AM

As posted above by Rich R: the line is "A hunger took their fight away and no-one else was slain."

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